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Catherine Tarsney Wins Voices Round Robin

Erik Legried Wins Educational Forum
posted by Jon Cruz on March 6th, 2010

SAN JOSE, Calif. — Jordan Lamothe of the Meadows School and Catherine Tarsney of Saint Louis Park High School emerged from a field of fourteen competitors to compete in the final round of this year’s Voices Round Robin. On a 4-1 decision, Catherine defeated Jordan to win the tournament. Congratulations to both debaters!

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Catherine is coached by Christian Tarsney, Heather Hamilton, and Jason Zhou; Jordan is coached by Dan Meyers and Mike Spirtos.

The Blake School’s Erik Legried was declared the victor in the Voices Educational Forum on a 3-2 decision. Congratulations to Erik!

Erik is coached by Shane Stafford and Sandy Berkowitz.

Tim Case has sent in the following regarding the Educational Forum:

Before the final round, the tournament hosted an educational “problem-posing” seminar where the top two debaters from each pod were invited to participate in a forum on the topic. The student Panelists included The Blake School’s Eric Legried, St. Louis Park’s Catherine Tarsney, The Meadows School’s Jordan Lamothe, Torrey Pines’ Colin Scott, Loyola’s Andrew Blay, and Harvard-Westlake’s Jake Sonnenberg. These six students participated in a discussion moderated by a panel of debate educators that focused on some of the central philosophical and theoretical foundations of the topic as well as a discussion on the future direction of the activity. Students in the audience (competitors, judges, coaches, and crowd members) also had the opportunity to ask follow-up questions regarding the panelist’s responses and to insert their own questions. This format was designed to challenge the most “successful” debaters at the tournament to defend their understanding of the whole topic and its intricacies as well as demonstrate an understanding of their role in LD and in what direction they would like the activity to head. Since debate rounds tend to eliminate any mutual interaction “during the round” between competitors and judges, the Voices Educational Forum attempted to break this dichotomy by having an open forum where judges and audience members asked questions of the student panelists, and the panelists had the opportunity to ask questions of the audience as well.

The central questions asked where:

1. If you had the opportunity to sit on the wording committee, what about the current resolution would you change and why?

2. Is the prevalence of deontology and utilitarianism debates as they happen a good trend or bad trend?

3. Given the mission of the Voices Foundation and other organization in debate, what are the significant access issues that we face as a community and what can you as debaters/concerned citizens do about it?

It was a great discussion and will be available to the entire LD community soon to view and hopefully continue the conversations we started! Congrats to the panelist and thanks to all those who participated and watched the discussion!

TWEEDLE DEE

1. The Meadows School (NV) — Jordan Lamothe
2. The Blake School (MN) — Erik Legried
3. Loyola High School (CA) — Andrew Blay
Harvard-Westlake School (CA) — Ben Sprung-Keyser
Monta Vista High School (CA) — Daniel Ki
Palo Alto High School (CA) — Nikhil Bharagav
Torrey Pines High School (CA) — Illya Gaidarov

TWEEDLE DUM

1. Saint Louis Park High School (MN) — Catherine Tarsney
2. Harvard-Westlake School (CA) — Jake Sonnenberg
3. Torrey Pines High School (CA) — Colin Scott
Brentwood School (CA) — Cory Wynn
Loyola High School (CA) — Andrew Seber
The Meadows School (NV) — Nate Socolof
Mercer Island High School (WA) — Steven Adler

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22 Responses to “Catherine Tarsney Wins Voices Round Robin”

  1. VBD: High School Debate, Lincoln-Douglas, Policy, Public Forum
    Posted from: 69.163.185.110

    March 7th, 2010 22:40
    1

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  2. Jon Cruz
    Posted from: 98.14.255.196

    March 7th, 2010 22:41
    2

    A question that will not be appearing in the return of “Ask Cruz”:

    Q: Who’s wrist is sporting the Voices wristband in the semi-official Voices story photograph?

    A: Scott Brainard of Niskayuna High School.

  3. Tim Case
    Posted from: 76.202.56.14

    March 8th, 2010 04:17
    3

    After Round 3 – Rankings within Pod based upon ballot count (with 8 total ballots still to be added from Rounds 4-7 that could still allow #6 to be #1).

    Tweedle-Dee Pod:

    1. Blake EL
    2. Meadows JL
    3. Loyola AB
    4. Harvard-Westlake BS
    5. Monta VistaDK
    6. Palo Alto NB

    Tweedle-Dum Pod:

    1. St. Louis Park CT
    2. Harvard-Westlake JS
    3. Torrey Pines CS
    4. Meadows NS
    5. Loyola AS
    6. Brentwood CW

  4. Tim Case
    Posted from: 76.202.56.14

    March 8th, 2010 04:20
    4

    wow…shows how tired I am from this day – I left a person out in each pod!

    Tweedle-Dee Pod:
    1. Blake EL
    2. Meadows JL
    3. Loyola AB
    4. Harvard-Westlake BS
    5. Torrey Pines IG
    6. Monta VistaDK
    7. Palo Alto NB

    Tweedle-Dum Pod:
    1. St. Louis Park CT
    2. Harvard-Westlake JS
    3. Torrey Pines CS
    4. Meadows NS
    5. Mercer Island SA
    6. Loyola AS
    7. Brentwood CW

  5. David McGinnis
    Posted from: 167.142.64.26

    March 8th, 2010 11:45
    5

    Are the pod names a reference to “Alice in Wonderland” or to “Plato’s Stepchildren”?

  6. Jon Cruz
    Posted from: 167.206.203.14

    March 8th, 2010 13:49
    6

    Nerd power, Dave — nerd power!

    Live long and prosper,
    jc

  7. Tim Case
    Posted from: 66.127.219.64

    March 8th, 2010 16:51
    7

    After Round 6 – 1 Round to Go:

    Tweedle Dee Pod:

    Lamothe – 8 ballots
    Legried – 8 ballots
    Blay – 7 ballots
    Gaidarov – 4 ballots
    Sprung-Keyser – 3 ballots
    Ki – 3 ballots
    Bharagav – 3 ballots

    Tweedle Dum Pod:

    Tarsney – 8 ballots
    Scott – 7 ballots
    Sonnenberg – 6 ballots
    Seber – 5 ballots
    Socolof – 4 ballots
    Adler – 4 ballots
    Wynn – 2 ballots

  8. Erik
    Posted from: 66.127.219.81

    March 8th, 2010 21:05
    8

    Finals is Catherine vs. Jordan

    The Tweedle Dee Pod was a three-way tie at the end.

    Lamothe- 9 ballots
    Legried- 9 ballots (back by .5 speaks h/l)
    Blay- 9 ballots (back by 1.5 speaks h/l)

    I don’t know other ballot counts definitively but i’m sure they’ll be posted shortly.

  9. Tim Case
    Posted from: 66.127.219.64

    March 8th, 2010 21:37
    9

    Educational Forum Student Panel (top 3 competitors by record in each pod):

    Blake EL, Loyola AB, Meadows JL, St. Louis Park CT, Harvard-Westlake JS, and Torrey Pines CS.

    Finals (in progress):

    Meadows JL (Aff) vs – St. Louis Park CT (Neg)

    Prelim Results:

    Tweedle Dee Pod:
    1. Meadows JL (9-3) – H/L Speaks – 290
    2. Blake EL (9-3) – H/L Speaks- 289.5
    3. Loyola AB (9-3) – H/L Speaks – 288
    4. Torrey Pines IG (4-8) – H/L Speaks – 284.5
    5. Harvard-Westlake BS (4-8) – H/L Speaks – 283.5
    6. Palo Alto NB (4-8) – H/L Speaks – 282.5
    7. Monta Vista DK (3-9) – H/L Speaks- 282

    Tweedle Dee Pod:

    1. St. Louis Park (10-2) – H/L Speaks- 293.5
    2. Harvard-Westlake JS (8-4) – H/L Speaks – 286.5
    3. Torrey Pines CS (7-5) – H/L Speaks – 286
    4. Loyola AS (5-7) – H/L Speaks – 281
    5. Meadows NS (4-8) – H/L Speaks – 283
    6. Mercer Island SA (4-8) – H/L Speaks – 280
    7. Brentwood CW (4-8) – H/L Speaks – 276.5

  10. Tim Case
    Posted from: 66.127.219.103

    March 8th, 2010 22:07
    10

    On a 3-2 Decision – Erik Legried is the Educational Forum Champion.

    On a 4-1 Decision (3-1 Judge Panel, 2-1 Student Vote) Catherine Tarsney is the 2010 Voices RR Champion!

    I will have more of a wrap up later but Congratulations to these debaters and all of the contestants this weekend!

  11. Jayant Tripathy
    Posted from: 74.36.98.161

    March 8th, 2010 22:54
    11

    Congrats to Erik and Catherine.

    Will the educational forum be posted online? It was interesting to see the last one and hear some good input on the state of debate, the topic, etc.

    In addition, were any rounds filmed?

  12. Juli
    Posted from: 97.116.6.26

    March 9th, 2010 00:12
    12

    Congrats to Catherine and Erik – go Minnesota!

  13. Bennett
    Posted from: 209.240.89.108

    March 9th, 2010 00:28
    13

    congrats Catherine and Erik

  14. Seber
    Posted from: 71.84.43.236

    March 9th, 2010 01:26
    14

    Congrats Erik and Catherine!!

    this was a really intense and fun round robin. thanks to the voices crew for putting it on. yall really run a great program

  15. Christian
    Posted from: 67.188.27.199

    March 9th, 2010 02:12
    15

    Major thanks to Adam, Tim, Sheila, and everyone else who made this whole weekend happen; Harker and Voices were both among the most fun tournaments of the year, but on top of that, the Voices Foundation makes some really important contributions to the activity that the round robin helps to support in a variety of ways. A lot of people love to talk about inequities and lack of opportunity in the activity, but Tim is one of the few people who really devotes serious time and effort to doing something about it.

  16. Fresca
    Posted from: 160.94.47.16

    March 9th, 2010 11:35
    16

    Congrats to Erik and Catherine for bringing the MN dominance

  17. Karlyn
    Posted from: 68.80.3.219

    March 9th, 2010 18:57
    17

    Congrats to Catherine, Jordan, and Erik!

  18. Steven Adler
    Posted from: 24.17.210.22

    March 9th, 2010 21:48
    18

    Who sat out?

  19. fpielstick
    Posted from: 204.140.147.129

    March 9th, 2010 23:04
    19

    Todd sat out

  20. Tim Case
    Posted from: 75.36.131.100

    March 11th, 2010 02:52
    20

    Having had time to sit down and rest from a very hectic weekend, I wanted to take this opportunity to thank everyone who attended the Round Robin this year. We had what is easily the best pool of competitors Voices ever had and as a result there was excellent competition, making the tournament worthwhile both from a TOC prep standpoint but also from an educational perspective. With 7 rounds of debate, an educational forum, and a final round squeezed into a small window of time – 5:00pm on Sunday to 6:00pm on Monday – the tournament was pretty intense but hopefully the competitors found it worthwhile overall.

    I would like to take this opportunity to thank a few people who made this Round Robin possible. First, I would like to thank The Harker School for their support of Voices this year. We used the campus free of charge and Harker helped provide food and refreshments to all of the debaters with no charge. I would also like to individually thank Adam Nelson for his support of Voices this year. His own personal contributions were essential to cutting the overhead costs of running the tournament and I know I speak for the Voices Foundation when I say that your help is greatly appreciated. Finally I would like to thank Sheila McKay and Dave McKay for being continuous supporters of the Foundation and the efforts started by their son. Without their continued financial and logistical support it would be impossible for the Voices Foundation to continue supporting as many students as possible.

    All in all the weekend raised $2,400 in funds that will be turned around directly to students in need of financial resources for camp this summer. Thank you to competitors and coaches for being directly responsible for 4 students to receive a sizeable scholarship to cut into the costs of camp. I know I speak for many when I say that now is the time to step up our efforts to help make more of this happen. We are in the midst of a harsh economic crisis that threatens to throw another wrench in what is already a tremendously large access issue in debate. We need everyone’s help more than ever to ensure that more and more students have this opportunity. Donations are tax deductable and are matched (up to $5,000) by the McKay Family. We are in need of donations now more than ever.

    I also want to send a personal thank you to the efforts of the Glenbrooks Debate Society, especially Ari Parker, for efforts organizing a fundraising event for Voices at the Glenbrooks tournament this year. Proceeds of a dodgeball tournament hosted at the Glenbrooks when matched raised well over a $1,000 for the Voices Foundation. This action goes to show that the spirit of Voices is alive and well and that even small things done at a local level or individual tournaments can go a long way in helping support the Voices Mission. I urge each and every one of you to get involved and do what you can. I personally would never have had the opportunity to attend tournaments, camps, and achieve the success I did in High School if it weren’t for the efforts of organizations like Voices and as a result I have a first hand perspective on the impact that even the smallest amount of funds cans have. Without support from friends, I would in the position I am today, and I am grateful to all those who continue to fight to ensure people like me have the ability to grow and mature and succeed. If you are interested in helping out with the Voices Foundation and its efforts please contact me (tcase@pres-net.com). Also, Voices Scholarships Applications are now available on the Voices website – http://www.voicesfoundation.org.

    Finally, congratulations to Catherine, Nate, Jordan, and the other Student Panelists of the Educational Forum – Andrew Blay, Colin Scott, and Jake Sonnenberg – for a great tournament. Catherine, I cannot say enough about your maturity and the knowledge and wisdom you have (especially your understanding if your role in debate) – what you have achieved this year is amazing and I really hope you get the chance to step back and take it all in at some point. I don’t care if you’ve been debating since kindergarden (lol), what you have done this year is unprecedented and you deserve all that you have received. Eric, you just missed the final round (.5 points) in what was the closest tie break I have ever seen at a Round Robin (3 debatets with 9-3 records in the same pod of 7 students – that is Nuts). You have had an amazing year and I cant wait to see you in late outrounds at the TOC. Thank you for your support of the tournament and your success at the Forum. With 2 judge panelists and 4 of the 8 student votes, your demonstration of your understanding of the topic and LD was excellent and I know people will benefit from watching and learning. Finally, Jordan, what a weekend. After capping off the Harker Tournament with an impressive win, you forced yourself – sick and dying – to compete for 7 additional rounds at the Round Robin. Hacking up lungs throughout the tournament, you still managed to make it to the final round and secure a speaker award. You are an amazing debater, a super smart kid, and you definitely are responsible for making every decision in a round you are in difficult to make because of the quality of your debating. I cannot wait to see you perform at the TOC and as a coach next year.

    Thats it – I’m off – thanks to anyone and everyone for your help this weekend – its tournaments likes Voices that inspire me to continue to be involved and love this community.

  21. Dave McKay
    Posted from: 98.245.163.58

    March 11th, 2010 10:33
    21

    I think the whole community owes a debt of gratitude to Tim Case for making the Voices Round Robins happen the last two years. It is a tremendous contribution that reaches far beyond the RR debate rounds.

  22. dfk
    Posted from: 128.12.32.108

    March 12th, 2010 00:09
    22

    Tim is a great man.

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