Ben Holguin Wins Second Minneapple Championship
Jonathan Bowyer is J.V. Champion
APPLE VALLEY, Minn. — The twenty-third annual Minneapple at Apple Valley High School concluded Saturday evening with a round that featured defending champion Ben Holguin of Edina High School and challenger Ross Brown of Valley High School. The round was adjudicated by Ali Huberlie, Anjan Choudhury, Tim Hogan, Todd Liipfert, and Prashant Rai.
On a 4-1 decision — Rai dissented — Ben defeated Ross to keep his title.
Apple Valley is the third consecutive tournament with an octafinals bid to the Tournament of Champions that has concluded with a repeat champion.
Ben is coached by Jake Gelfand; Ross is coached by Dave McGinnis and Ernie Rose.
In the final round of the tournament’s junior varsity Lincoln-Douglas debate division, Scarsdale High School’s Jonathan Bowyer defeated Walt Whitman High School’s Daniel Imas to win the championship. Congratulations to both debaters!
Jonathan is coached by Joe Vaughan and Patrick Diehl; Daniel is coached by Anjan Choudhury, Tanya Choudhury, Elyse Lyons, Todd Liipfert, and Stephanie Caravias.
LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATE
(33) Strake Jesuit PB (Philip Bartholomew) [Crabapple]
DOUBLES
(1) Lake Highland GB def. (32) Meadows AK (Adrienne Keamy)
(2) Edina DM def. (31) Walt Whitman EN (Ellen Noble)
(3) Saint Louis Park CT def. (30) Ridge DC (David Chen)
(4) Valley RB def. (29) Brentwood MS (Michael Soneff)
(5) Lakeville South CK def. (28) Newtown AA (Akshay Agashe)
(6) Edina BH def. (27) Brentwood JL (Jordan Lincenberg)
(7) Greenhill DS def. (26) Northland Christian JR (Josh Roberts)
(8) Meadows AS def. (25) Elkins JS (Joey Schwartz)
(24) Walt Whitman EM def. (9) Scarsdale MM (Marcus Moretti)
(10) Altamont SA def. (23) Oak Mountain JL (Jeff Liu)
(11) Edina JM def. (22) Hopkins CD (Connor Doherty)
(21) Valley MK over (12) Valley JE (Joe Ellerbroek)
(13) Strake Jesuit PT def. (20) Wayzata FP (Francesca Parente)
(14) Blake EL def. (19) Ridge AT (Alan Tong)
(18) Mountain View JM def. (15) Bronx Science AS (Adam Silver)
(16) Upper St. Clair JG def. (17) Walt Whitman JK (Jane Kessner)
OCTAS
(1) Lake Highland GB def. (16) Upper St. Clair JG (J.P. Gooderham)
(18) Mountain View JM def. (2) Edina DM (David McNeil)
(3) Saint Louis Park CT def. (14) Blake EL (Erik Legried)
(4) Valley RB def. (13) Strake Jesuit PT (Paul Tyger)
(5) Lakeville South CK def. (21) Valley MK (Matt Kawahara)
(6) Edina BH over (11) Edina JM (Jack Mullaney)
(7) Greenhill DS def. (10) Altamont SA (Sasha Arijanto)
(8) Meadows AS def. (24) Walt Whitman EM (Emily Massey)
QUARTERS
(1) Lake Highland GB def. (8) Meadows AS (Amanda Signorelli)
(18) Mountain View JM def. (7) Greenhill DS (Danielle Smogard)
(6) Edina BH def. (3) Saint Louis Park CT (Catherine Tarsney)
(4) Valley RB def. (5) Lakeville South CK (Christian Keil)
SEMIS
(4) Valley RB def. (1) Lake Highland GB (Gurdane Bhutani)
(6) Edina BH def. (18) Mountain View JM (Jeff Merrill)
FINALS
(6) Edina BH def. (4) Valley RB (Ross Brown)
4-1 (Ali Huberlie, Anjan Choudhury, Tim Hogan, Todd Liipfert, *Prashant Rai)
CHAMPION
(6) Edina BH (Ben Holguin)
—
TOP SPEAKERS
1. Catherine Tarsney — Saint Louis Park High School (MN)
2. Paul Tyger — Strake Jesuit College Preparatory School (TX)
3. Ross Brown — Valley High School (IA)
4. Christian Keil — Lakeville South High School (MN)
5. Ben Holguin — Edina High School (MN)
6. Erik Legried — The Blake School (MN)
7. Adam Silver — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
8. Danielle Smogard — Greenhill School (TX)
9. J.P. Gooderham — Upper St. Clair High School (PA)
10. Amanda Signorelli — The Meadows School (NV)
11. Gurdane Bhutani — Lake Highland Preparatory School (FL)
12. Sasha Arijanto — The Altamont School (AL)
13. Marcus Moretti — Scarsdale High School (NY)
14. Jane Kessner — Walt Whitman High School (MN)
15. Jeff Merrill — Mountain View High School (CA)
16. David McNeil — Edina High School (MN)
17. Alan Tong — Ridge High School (NJ)
18. Stefanie Rohde — Walt Whitman High School (MN)
19. Francesca Parente — Wayzata High School (MN)
20. Matt Kawahara — Valley High School (IA)
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November 7th, 2008 19:29
[…] Apple Valley — Live Coverage […]
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November 7th, 2008 19:34
Qual Lumpee Qual
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November 7th, 2008 19:36
good luck bronx!
anyone know results?
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November 7th, 2008 20:33
Bronx Science’s Adam Silver is 4-0.
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November 7th, 2008 21:07
Edina BH, JM, and DM are 4-0
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November 7th, 2008 21:17
phelan o’neill is predicted to close out finals
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November 7th, 2008 21:35
From Hopkins:
CD 4-0
EM 3-1
RM 3-1
CK 1-3
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November 7th, 2008 21:49
erik and I are both 2-2
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November 7th, 2008 22:27
gurdane is 4-0
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November 7th, 2008 22:44
SLP CT is 4-0
Barrington AR is 2-2
Newtown AA is 3-1
Posted from: 69.118.238.171
November 7th, 2008 23:00
I was in the field report, but unfortunately i had to drop-out last minute. good luck to scarsdale
Posted from: 74.36.135.182
November 7th, 2008 23:23
The Brown family of West Des Moines is collectively 7-0.
Valley MK, AL, and JE (Joe Ellerbroek, watch out for him) are all 3-1.
Posted from: 74.45.219.12
November 8th, 2008 05:35
New Orleans Jesuit’s Jacob Pritt = 3-1.
Posted from: 68.192.28.123
November 8th, 2008 08:39
Oak Mountain JL and LL are 4-0 and 3-1 in that order.
Get ‘em boys :D
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November 8th, 2008 09:19
Good luck to the Lius!
Posted from: 68.196.201.226
November 8th, 2008 10:28
Liu heg FTW. Good luck to ridge also.
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November 8th, 2008 11:23
good luck to bx sci and lewis/mcgough lab!
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November 8th, 2008 11:24
Liu twins!
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November 8th, 2008 12:51
Brentwood: how’s everybody doing?
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November 8th, 2008 14:36
does anyone know any doubles results?
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November 8th, 2008 15:13
Octas:
Edina BH Edina JM
Edina DM v. Mountain View JM (Switala, Torson, Pinto)
Greenhill DS v. Altamont SA (Choudhury, Liipfert, Dessi)
Lake Highland GB v. Upper St. Clair JG (Diehl, Houston, Hogan)
Lakeville South CK v. WDM MK (Rai, Spirtos, Tarsney)
Meadows AS v. Walt Whitman EM (Huberlie, Russell, Ramakrisha)
St. Louis Park CT v. Blake EL (Conrad, Brundage, Gelfand)
WDM RB v. Strake PT (Catterton, Zhou, Wallach)
Posted from: 64.75.117.40
November 8th, 2008 15:16
Thank you, Eric!
Doubles:
Mountain View JM def. Bronx Science AS
2-1 (*Ravi Sankar, Josh Marshall, Jason Zhou)
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November 8th, 2008 15:21
Congrats on the bid, Emily. Take it home.
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November 8th, 2008 15:29
congrats to emily on the bid
Posted from: 71.163.172.18
November 8th, 2008 15:31
Congrats emily
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November 8th, 2008 16:05
Mad props to J-Rob on another amazing showing. Also to Danielle for a great tournament as well.
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November 8th, 2008 16:05
Mad props to J-Rob on another amazing showing. Also to Danielle for a great tournament as well.
Posted from: 69.120.236.168
November 8th, 2008 16:07
WAHOO GRENADE
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November 8th, 2008 16:25
Go Erik go! Congratulations on the qual!
Posted from: 12.145.141.11
November 8th, 2008 16:48
YAY emily, gurdane, JP, danielle, and, of course, CK :)
Posted from: 64.113.170.26
November 8th, 2008 17:44
Good luck JP, Amanda (NV Pride), and of course ALL of SHADOW LAB!
AYYYYYYY!
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November 8th, 2008 18:26
Quarters I know:
Keil vs Ross
Ben vs Catherine
Gurdane vs Amanda
Jeff vs. winner of Smogard v Arijanto
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November 8th, 2008 18:35
good luck sash! WIN WIN WIN
Posted from: 71.139.11.48
November 8th, 2008 19:12
Jeff Merrill beat Smogard in quarters and is in sems.
Posted from: 96.234.65.108
November 8th, 2008 19:49
Congrats J Reefer Frymill on semis and Michael for the coachin’
You are best.
plus Rachel- you aight.
Posted from: 75.72.79.154
November 8th, 2008 20:00
Ben Houglin, Ross Brown, Jeff Merrill and Gurdaine were in semis
Posted from: 24.215.188.178
November 8th, 2008 20:01
congrats to adam for clearing and sasha for bidding!
Posted from: 75.72.79.154
November 8th, 2008 20:02
Blake EL defeated Alan Tong on a 3-0 (Tarsney, Zhou, Catterton) in doubles.
SLP CT defeated Blake EL on a 3-0
Posted from: 71.60.209.85
November 8th, 2008 20:09
FINALS: Ross Brown vs. Ben Holguin
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November 8th, 2008 20:10
other results I remember:
Mountain View JM def. Edina DM 2-1 (Switala, Torson, *Pinto)
quarters was:
Edina BH def. SLP CT
Mountain View JM def. Greenhill DS
Lake Highland GB def. Meadows AS
Valley RB def. Lakeville South CK
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
November 8th, 2008 20:33
congrats jeff!
Posted from: 74.45.235.156
November 8th, 2008 20:34
jefferson mcloveten,
i am so proud of you of you sir.
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November 8th, 2008 20:50
Finals:
Edina BH def. Valley RB (Huberlie, Choudhury, Hogan, Liiperft, *Rai)
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November 8th, 2008 21:23
congrats to JP on the qual… less than a week into your season
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November 8th, 2008 21:33
congrats to amanda on another great showing this year!
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November 8th, 2008 21:34
the year of the repeats
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November 8th, 2008 21:54
HOLGUIN
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November 8th, 2008 22:05
hoglund
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November 8th, 2008 22:15
congrats on top speaker and quarters Catherine
Akshay, stop dropping doubles
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November 8th, 2008 22:22
CONGRATS BEN HOLGUIN (: good job. we knew you could do it baby!
Posted from: 74.36.123.9
November 8th, 2008 22:25
Prelim results packet: http://www.mdta.org/cgi-bin/mdta/File/MinneApple2008Packet.pdf
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November 8th, 2008 22:27
j. reefer frymill, you’z a balla.
Posted from: 72.80.238.4
November 8th, 2008 22:38
Congrats Sasha and Emily on the BIDs!!!! you guys really deserve them!
Posted from: 24.164.191.184
November 8th, 2008 23:07
congrats squasha among others.
Posted from: 71.195.50.147
November 8th, 2008 23:16
Oops…I’m a gigantic idiot and totally forgot that I was supposed to be sending pairings. Sorry, Jon… :-( Since quarters and finals are already on this thread, I can at least fill in sems, which was Ben over Jeff and Ross over Gurdane.
Anyway, huge congrats to Catherine on finally being top speaker somewhere. Also, congrats to SLP’s Talia Teplinsky for making it to outrounds in JV.
Posted from: 24.118.49.141
November 8th, 2008 23:59
i find it 2 be extrmelu troubling that arguments like edinas are starting to win tournaments. there substantive arguments without value strctures leave no room for us spreaders. to be honest i think more a preorees are necessary to combat edinas silly case strctures and return any sort of legitimasy to the activity.
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November 9th, 2008 05:12
Thanks as always to Mrs. Wycoff and the entire Apple Valley community for a wonderfully hospitable weekend. And Emily - YES! Way to go!
To help fill in some results I remember:
VARSITY LD
DOUBLES
Valley MK OVER Valley JE
Lake Highland GB def. Meadows AK
Edina DM def. Walt Whitman EN
St. Louis Park CT def. Ridge DC
Valley RB def. Brentwood MS
Lakeville South CK def. Newtown AA
Edina BH def. Brentwood JL
Greenhill DS def. Northland Christian JR
Meadows AS def. Elkins JS
Walt Whitman EM def. Scarsdale MM
Altamont SA def. Oak Mountain JL
Edina JM def. Hopkins CD
Strake Jesuit PT def. Wayzata FP
Upper St. Clair JG def. Walt Whitman JK
Blake EL def. Ridge AT
Mountain View JM def. Bronx AS
OCTOS
Greenhill DS def. Altamont SA(Choudhury, Liipfert, Dessi)
Meadows AS def. Walt Whitman EM (Russell, Huberlie, Ramakrishnan)
JUNIOR VARSITY LD
QUARTERS
Eagan JG def. Apple Valley JP
Scarsdale JB def. Apple Valley SC
Scarsdale JY def. Walt Whitman AZ (Alex Zimmermann)
Walt Whitman DI def. Lakeville South DS
SEMIS
Scarsdale JB OVER Scarsdale JY
Walt Whitman DI def. Eagan JG
FINALS
Scarsdale JB def. Walt Whitman DI (Daniel Imas)
CHAMPION
Scarsdale JB
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November 9th, 2008 07:07
daps to merill, gurdane, and rosser. the whole goon too.
Posted from: 69.118.137.26
November 9th, 2008 07:48
major congrats to the SHS JV debaters - Jon Bowyer and Jared Young. First victory of many, guys.
also congrats to Ben, Ross, Merrill, Gurdane
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November 9th, 2008 08:08
[…] Apple Valley — Finals: Edina’s Ben Holguin defeated Valley’s Ross Brown on a 4-1 decision. USC — Live Coverage […]
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November 9th, 2008 08:58
congratulations to jeff aka j reefer frymill on ending the struggle in a bold and valiant way. this train’s goin’ straight to the top.
also rachel no sadness. gbn.
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November 9th, 2008 09:01
Congrats to Akshay and Christian
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November 9th, 2008 09:02
Congrats to Jared Young and Jon Bowyer for an amazing victory
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November 9th, 2008 09:51
I am amazed how many spelling errors the concerned debater could put into one post.
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November 9th, 2008 10:35
Thanks to the whole AV crew for the always well-run and hospitable Minneapple.
Posted from: 69.115.163.149
November 9th, 2008 10:45
awesome job Jonathon!
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November 9th, 2008 10:52
conserned debator ftw
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November 9th, 2008 11:03
alabama FTW! congrats sasha, jeff, and larry… (but you guys do have amazing coaches)) vestavia= no coach..
Posted from: 67.87.132.148
November 9th, 2008 11:34
Congrats to Gurdane, Ross, and esp. to Bowyer and Jared for wrecking JV.
Posted from: 24.227.218.24
November 9th, 2008 12:42
A huge congrats to Mr. Jeff Merrill on not only getting the bid you’ve deserved for a while now, but getting to semis.
Gurdane, I expected nothing less from you. Awesome job.
Also congrats to Sasha Arijanto on getting a bid. I knew you could!
In addition, a big congrats to Joey Schwartz on getting to the bid round. Way to represent Fort Bend ISD!
Posted from: 151.205.173.244
November 9th, 2008 12:51
Is anyone keeping track of who has bids this year?
Posted from: 68.81.159.124
November 9th, 2008 13:07
BOWYER! good job, man
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November 9th, 2008 13:19
Brentwood MS is Michael Soneff, not Shagrin.
Posted from: 69.118.137.26
November 9th, 2008 13:30
huge congrats to ross brown
Posted from: 67.81.91.133
November 9th, 2008 13:44
congrats to AT and david chen on breaking. also congrats to adam, ellen, jane, and JP
Posted from: 98.195.169.63
November 9th, 2008 14:36
congrats to joey, paul, and sasha!!!
Posted from: 98.195.169.63
November 9th, 2008 14:37
what does “(33) Strake Jesuit PT (Philip Bartholomew) [Crabapple]” mean?
Posted from: 98.195.169.63
November 9th, 2008 14:38
and congrats to jeff!
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November 9th, 2008 14:48
Congrats to Ben on maintaining ApplEdina Prep heg
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November 9th, 2008 14:59
Ben sucks dick.
Posted from: 128.12.77.106
November 9th, 2008 15:23
JEFF!!!!!!
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November 9th, 2008 17:47
Congrats to JP, Alan, David, and JEFF LIU for breaking!
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November 9th, 2008 17:51
Congrats JP on the qual, also nice job to akshay, adam, chen, and noble for the bid round! And congrats to Danielle for another bid added to the list!
@77: it just meants the strake jesuit PT was the 33rd seed and was the next one to clear to elims
Posted from: 67.80.215.195
November 9th, 2008 17:56
trifectaaaaa
Posted from: 75.72.79.154
November 9th, 2008 18:02
@ 77 - Phil had the best record of all the debaters who did not clear this weekend. They called the award the crab apple since A) it’s the Mineapple, B) it’s APPLE valley, and C) they hand out apples as trophies, so it was fitting to make it the crab apple award for the 33rd seed
Posted from: 24.164.191.184
November 9th, 2008 19:21
gj methlab
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November 9th, 2008 19:45
Congrats Bowyer.
Posted from: 76.173.201.26
November 9th, 2008 20:02
(4) Valley RB def. (29) Brentwood MS (Michael Shagrin)
this was not michael shagrin
Posted from: 75.8.212.209
November 9th, 2008 20:11
ya, brentwood ms was michael soneff
Posted from: 76.113.135.99
November 9th, 2008 20:20
Now “That’s Amore” is going to be stuck in my head for the rest of the week. Thanks a lot, CD.
Posted from: 72.67.167.250
November 9th, 2008 20:20
nice job to the brentwood kids. congrats on getting to the bid round.
and congratulations on the bid, erik. lawrence-donatti represent.
Posted from: 69.120.243.145
November 9th, 2008 20:34
Is there an actual award to go along with the crabapple position?
Posted from: 141.161.124.247
November 9th, 2008 21:02
FYI — Strake Jesuit PT (Philip Bartholomew) is a typo. it should be Strake Jesuit PB.
Posted from: 74.240.118.121
November 9th, 2008 21:05
congrats to sasha, jeff, and larry
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November 9th, 2008 21:14
As usual another excellent tournament at Apple Valley. Congrats to Pam, Cherian, Colin, Zach, et al for once again running a fantastic tournament.
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
November 9th, 2008 23:23
Yes, there’s an actual crabapple award for 33rd seed - sort of a consolation prize.
Congratulations to Catherine on bid no. 3 and on first speaker!
Posted from: 218.78.225.251
November 10th, 2008 10:21
ballin
Posted from: 128.135.121.56
November 10th, 2008 13:25
Apple Valley doesn’t disappoint–thanks + congrats to the entire AV crew for another amazing tournament.
Also, congrats to Ben/Ross/Jeff and especially to Gurdane.
Posted from: 68.126.0.34
November 10th, 2008 13:41
huge congrats to j-schwartz, signorelli, lincenburg, soneff, tyger, and sasha.
Posted from: 70.116.20.180
November 10th, 2008 13:49
congrats to jeff on semis
Posted from: 67.155.35.66
November 10th, 2008 15:41
Congrats to the Valley Crew for an incredible weekend and confirming my theory about policy debaters.
Congrats to my boy Catterton and a bust out Tournament for Gurdane
Congrats to Walt Whitman on yet another bid recipient. Think you guys are going to make pairing rounds at TOC pretty easy cause everyone who ain’t you is probably going to have to debate you.
Special Props to JRob for battling back from a rough 2-2 start to come up just one ballot short from qualling to the TOC in November as a Sophomore.
Posted from: 24.214.64.12
November 10th, 2008 17:19
How are there two 21 seeds?
Posted from: 98.193.50.96
November 10th, 2008 22:21
Outstanding job to Ross, matt, amanda, gurdane, jeff, sasha, and j.p.!
Posted from: 128.54.62.135
November 12th, 2008 15:32
COMGRATS MERRILL!!!!!