In a Close Out, Scarsdale Takes the Kaiser
NFA Takes Policy; Bronx Science Wins PF
MONTICELLO, N.Y. — Scarsdale High School “took home the Kaiser” for the second year in a row as Eric Thurm and Josh Seiden closed out the tournament. This is the first time that the Dr. Robert J. Kaiser Invitational has been closed out since 1995. They emerged victorious after besting a field of over one hundred and thirty Lincoln-Douglas debaters. Congratulations to both debaters on this achievement!
Eric and Josh are coached by Joe Vaughan and Patrick Diehl.
The Kaiser’s policy debate tournament came to a close with a final round that pitted the Newburgh Free Academy team of Neil Bapodra and Anuj Bapodra against the Stuyvesant High School team of Daniel Goldstern and Anna Gordan. On a 5-0 decision, Newburgh Free defeated Stuyvesant to win the title. Congratulations to both teams!
Neil and Anuj are coached by Sheryl Kaczmarek; David and Anna are coached by Julie Sheinman and Jessica Gates.
The Bronx High School of Science Daniel Wilkofsky and Tina Ritter took home the Kaiser in Public Forum debate after defeating Newtown High School’s Biota Hung and Quinlan Mitchell in the final round of the tournament. Congratulations to both teams!
Daniel and Tina are coached by Joseph Gazzola and Jon Cruz; Biota and Quinlan are coached by Larry Saladin.
Finally, the 2008 Rose Joyce-Turner Spirit of Debate Award was presented to the award’s name sake, Rose M. Joyce-Turner. Last year’s inaugural winner was Robbie Grabowitz of Hendrick Hudson High School.
LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATE
DOUBLES
(1) Scarsdale DD def. (32) Bronx Science ST (Seth Teleky)
(2) Ridge VJ def. (31) Stuyvesant TA (Taha Ahsin)
(3) Bronx Science SS def. (30) Newton AA (Akshay Agashe)
(29) Potomac MR def. (4) Millburn TM (Tess McNulty)
(5) Whippany Park BY def. (28) Bronx Science AE (Abhi Elisetty)
(6) Bronx Science BE def. (27) Stuyvesant LSK (Lee Schleifer-Katz)
(7) Scarsdale JB def. (26) Hunter College AG (Angela Gunn)
(25) Potomac YB def. (8) Stuyvesant GS (Georgia Stasinopoulos)
(24) Ridge JF def. (9) Perkiomen Valley KG (Karlyn Gorski)
(23) Bronx Science EL over (10) Bronx Science AS (Adam Silver)
(11) Newburgh Free BW def. (22) Ridge SV (Susanna Vogel)
(21) Scarsdale JS def. (12) Arthur L. Johnson AC (Alexander Castro)
(13) Bronx Science MD def. (20) Stuyvesant EL (Eli Lipsky)
(14) Whippany Park CJ def. (19) Byram Hills EF (Eric Fischer)
(18) Scarsdale ET def. (15) Stuyvesant JD (Jared Dummitt)
(16) Hendrick Hudson AG def. (17) Bronx Science MR (Matt Ross)
OCTAS
(16) Hendrick Hudson AG def. (1) Scarsdale DD (Daniel Daks)
(18) Scarsdale ET def. (2) Ridge VJ (Varun Jayaraman)
(3) Bronx Science SS def. (14) Whippany Park CJ (Chris Jeng)
(29) Potomac MR def. (13) Bronx Science MD (Matt Dunay)
(21) Scarsdale JS def. (5) Whippany Park BY (Ben Yu)
(6) Bronx Science BE def. (11) Newburgh Free BW (Ben Weiss)
(23) Bronx Science EL def. (7) Scarsdale JB (Jonathan Bowyer)
(25) Potomac YB def. (24) Ridge JF (Jacqueline Ferrentino)
QUARTERS
(16) Hendrick Hudson AG def. (25) Potomac YB (Yar Batmanghelidg)
(18) Scarsdale ET def. (23) Bronx Science EL (Emilija Landsbergis)
(3) Bronx Science SS over (6) Bronx Science BE (Bobby Esnard)
(21) Scarsdale JS def. (29) Potomac MR (Madhu Rhamankutty)
SEMIS
(21) Scarsdale JS def. (16) Hendrick Hudson AG (Alli Gofman)
(18) Scarsdale ET def. (3) Bronx Science SS (Saboor Sheerazi)
FINALS
(18) Scarsdale ET and (21) Scarsdale JS close out.
CO-CHAMPIONS
(18) Scarsdale ET (Eric Thurm)
(21) Scarsdale JS (Josh Seiden)
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TOP SPEAKERS
1. Tess McNulty — Millburn High School (NJ)
2. Daniels Daks — Scarsdale High School (NY)
3. Eric Fischer — Byram Hills High School (NY)
4. Ben Yu — Whippany Park High School (NJ)
5. Bobby Esnard — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
6. Jonathan Bowyer — Scarsdale High School (NY)
7. Georgia Stasinopoulos — Stuyvesant High School (NY)
8. Varun Jayaraman — Ridge High School (NJ)
9. Eli Lipsky — Stuyvesant High School (NY)
10. Saboor Sheerazi — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
11. Josh Seiden — Scarsdale High School (NY)
12. Karlyn Gorski — Perkiomen Valley High School (PA)
13. Susanna Vogel — Ridge High School (NJ)
14. Emilija Landsbergis — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
15. Adam Silver — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
POLICY DEBATE
(9) Lakeland GC (Chris Grossman & Patrick Cheung)
QUARTERS
(1) Newburgh Free BB def. (8) Stuyvesant KD (Mingching Kam & Vincent Dao)
(7) Stuyvesant GG def. (2) University AG (Jamiluddin Ahmed & Joshua Gonzalez)
(3) Bronx Science GG def. (6) Stuyvesant HH (Michelle Huang & Andrew Huang)
(5) Stuyvesant KL def. (4) Weston SP (Alyssa Schwartz & Derek Park)
SEMIS
(1) Newburgh Free BB def. (5) Stuyvesant KL (Sandesh Kataria & Paul Lee)
(7) Stuyvesant GG def. (2) Bronx Science GG (Dylan Gorman & Madison Gardiner)
FINALS
(1) Newburgh Free BB def. (7) Stuyvesant GG (Daniel Goldstern & Anna Gordan)
CHAMPIONS
(1) Newburgh Free BB (Neil Bapodra & Anuj Bapodra)
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TOP SPEAKERS
1. Joshua Gonzalez — University High School (NJ)
2. Dylan Gorman — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
3. Gerald Cowen — Newburgh Free Academy (NY)
4. Alssa Schwartz — Weston High School (MA)
5. Neil Bapodra — Newburgh Free Academy (NY)
PUBLIC FORUM DEBATE
(5) Lexington KL (Linda Kinstler & Hillary Ludlow)
SEMIS
(1) Bronx Science WR def. (4) Lincoln-Sudbury WC (Dane Weinberger & Dan Cmejla)
(3) Newtown HM def. (2) Hunter College PM (Isabel Patkowski & Lisa Mogilanski)
FINALS
(1) Bronx Science WR def. (3) Newtown HM (Biota Hung & Quinlan Mitchell)
CHAMPIONS
(1) Bronx Science WR (Daniel Wilkofsky & Tina Ritter)
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Posted from: 98.14.255.196
October 12th, 2008 02:19
First and foremost, I’d like to thank Team Monticello for doing an impressive job balancing the demands of a tournament that experienced EXPLOSIVE growth this year. The Kaiser has no entry limits, which makes it a great TEAM experience that Bronx Science treasures each year. We had a lot of fun this year.
Second, major congratulations to Eric and Josh for closing out the tournament, and to Alli for earning Hendrick Hudson’s first bid of the season. Special recognition is also in order for the ever-growing and ever-intense Potomac squad and to their coach, Tom Rollins. I want to give a special shout out to Madhu — Cruz/Jeffers KNDI ‘08 represent!
Most of all, though, I want to give a special shout out to my own very hard-working team. Saboor and Bobby, congratulations on your first bids of the season; I’m proud that you, Adam Matt Dunay, and Seth — who also cleared at the Kaiser — are already on the road to Kentucky so early on in the year. Congratulations as well to Emilija on her first bid round and to Matt Ross and Abhi for breaking. And YAY to Dan and Tina for winning Public Forum, and YAY to Dylan and Madison for making it to semis in policy!
Whew.
Much has been said elsewhere already about an unfortunate tab error that was caught right after outrounds were released; the tournament stopped the double-octafinal rounds a few minutes into them so that correct pairings could be released. Some have complained of conspiracies or fairness. One of my students, Josh Prenner, was initially listed as having cleared but then did not clear. He believes, as do I, that the tournament should be commended for quickly correcting an error that would have denied outround participation to folks who had the records to compete in them.
I think folks also don’t seem to understand the practical nature of these kinds of errors: yes, it sucks that records were misreported and that this skewed the pairings of one or two individuals. Given the huge number of pull-ups (and even some double pull-ups!) due to large squads making up the majority of particular brackets, it’s difficult to say how much this error truly affected pairings.
Lastly, this tab error and its swift correction brought out the best in a lot of people.
I’d like to single out Adam Silver from Bronx Science, who insisted that I break with our team rule regarding coaching over the higher seed so that his teammate might be able to compete, as she had been competing (without hitting a teammate) before the initial rounds were stopped. What a mensch.
Posted from: 68.90.40.192
October 12th, 2008 03:28
Congrats to all.
In Texas, for all tournamnets to be state qualifiers they are required to release all prelim ballots along with what is required to break in order to allow coaches a 15-30 minute period to ensure there were no tabbbing errors. I’ve never understood why this practice isn’t done everywhere.
Sounds like they went back and allowed the people with neccesary Wins/points to break so that’s a good thing. But why do some tournaments continue to hold the tab to the standard of perfection (which is essentially what is done when coaches don’t have the ability to check results)?
Posted from: 71.212.136.130
October 12th, 2008 06:51
Sam,
You are far too practical for the rest of us. Releasing the ballots so coaches can cross check results and coach their kids during the tournament (especially when there’s no oral criticism): pish-paw!
Michelin Massey
Posted from: 69.253.230.13
October 12th, 2008 07:20
congrats to a million of you, but especially to ali, josh, thurmie, and saboor for the bids. my condolences to everyone who got screwed in dubs.
also, congrats to fisch on his first V break and on being third speaker!
Posted from: 68.192.28.123
October 12th, 2008 08:18
I called it.
Good job Thurm and Seiden.
Posted from: 152.17.63.111
October 12th, 2008 08:31
Congrats Bobby and Saboor on the bids and Adam and Josh for having great attitudes towards competition and the activity!
Posted from: 69.118.137.26
October 12th, 2008 08:40
huge congrats to josh and thurm. also congrats to daks and bowyer for teaching octas.
Posted from: 208.120.131.125
October 12th, 2008 08:58
anyone know when the packet will be up?
congrats to bobby and saboor on bids, and emilijia for being in the bid round.
Posted from: 69.118.137.26
October 12th, 2008 09:15
YES
Posted from: 128.135.112.81
October 12th, 2008 09:29
THURM! JOSH! GLORY!
Posted from: 96.246.235.107
October 12th, 2008 09:49
epic finish josh and thurm
Posted from: 67.81.91.133
October 12th, 2008 10:45
congrats to eric on the win.
Posted from: 66.108.128.126
October 12th, 2008 11:18
big congrats to Saboor and Bobby on the bids, Emilija for reaching the bid round, Abhi, Seth, Adam, and Dunay for clearing!!
Posted from: 206.251.74.247
October 12th, 2008 11:59
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Posted from: 151.202.47.233
October 12th, 2008 12:13
Congrats to Josh and Thurm for their win and Bids, and to Bowyer on octs.
I would like to reinforce what Jon was saying, Tab as well as the Monticello team handled the tab error extremely well. Though stopping some rounds was unfortunate, it would have been ever more devastating to allow kids who deserved to clear to not break (including one of the eventual champions). As such, thanks to the Monticello team for running one of the most efficient tournaments of the year (as always).
Posted from: 74.36.136.254
October 12th, 2008 15:09
saboor = baller
Posted from: 68.192.28.123
October 12th, 2008 15:34
Yeah, to repeat, you guys need to keep in mind that this was a TWO DAY tournament, that broke to DOUBLE OCTAS…and it finished before 10 pm. That’s really impressive.
Plus, it shifted from an original 5 to 6 rounds…not to mention an extremely efficient execution in handling errors, IE the unfortunate recall of the double octas round.
I enjoyed the tournament overall. Hope to see you all next year!
Posted from: 68.156.43.202
October 12th, 2008 16:03
woot woot alli!
Posted from: 69.118.140.49
October 12th, 2008 16:11
major congrats to josh and thurm
Posted from: 151.204.252.116
October 12th, 2008 16:39
Wow,
Lexington has got to step up to the challenge of this tournament next year.
Posted from: 68.192.28.123
October 12th, 2008 17:36
Also does anybody know if there are going to be online master tabs?
Posted from: 98.193.50.96
October 12th, 2008 17:38
awesome job josh and thurm
Posted from: 24.90.84.59
October 12th, 2008 18:15
Congrats to everyone from Bronx, Lee, and Eric F.
Posted from: 68.220.214.237
October 12th, 2008 18:50
JEWISH KID!! congrats!
Posted from: 69.120.236.168
October 12th, 2008 19:05
Nice job to Bobby on the ghost, Dunay on the octas performance, Silver on being a mensch, and Cruz for being the first person other than my bubbe and Friedrich Nietzsche that I’ve heard use the term mensch. Also, congrats to Karlyn, who doubles were not kind to.
P.S. Aaron Zisook is the best judge in the country. In rounds that he judges, the competitors should both lose and he should win.
Posted from: 207.38.220.36
October 12th, 2008 19:09
Also a big shout out to Curtis, the Bronx Science bus driver. If you don’t know why the shout out, consider yourself lucky.
Posted from: 75.42.1.123
October 12th, 2008 20:47
Epic win. Nice job Seiden and Thurm. Way to dominate
Posted from: 147.9.156.65
October 12th, 2008 21:38
I agree with fisch about my paradigm being amazingly awesome. thanks go to chris, who somehow managed to make impossible driving maneuvers in the school bus. congrats to the debaters i judged, and those debaters that I know who did well (i’m not listing all of them).
Posted from: 147.9.156.65
October 12th, 2008 21:39
*curtis, not chris. thinking of something else.
Posted from: 66.240.48.106
October 13th, 2008 07:51
Congratulations to Varun on octas and being 2nd seed!
Congratulations to Emilija on reaching the bid round!
And congratulations to Josh on being a genuinely good person!
Way to represent Cooper/Nelson!
Posted from: 72.80.244.204
October 13th, 2008 12:09
Congrats are due to:
-Adam
-Saboor
-Matt Dunay
-Matt Ross
-Abhi
-Emilija
-Dylan
-Madison
-Dan
-Tina
Bronx had an awesome showing this weekend and you should all be very proud!
Posted from: 69.118.230.78
October 13th, 2008 13:46
Congrats Josh and Thurm
Posted from: 160.39.137.64
October 13th, 2008 15:04
congrats to josh, thurm, and bowyer
Posted from: 66.229.207.87
October 13th, 2008 15:36
Madhu representin
Posted from: 98.169.51.84
October 14th, 2008 05:57
For our part, Potomac would like to thank the Monticello folks for what was, again, a great tournament. As Ben points out above, this was a two-day tournament with 6 prelims that broke to double-octas and was over by 10pm. (Since we were done after quarters, by 10, we were on the Jersey turnpike to see if they had an all-points-bulletin out on me for the toll I missed on the way up from Virginia…. I’m still a fugitive.)
All this, and Monticello had the guts to acknowledge their own mistake in calculating elims and fix it asap. Everyone in this world screws up from time to time; what sets the best apart from the rest is what you do about it when it happens.
Special thanks to Sabrina, uber-tabman Minnick, and to Matt Thomas, who has to be the hardest working guy I’ve ever seen who gets it done and keeps his composure. And thanks to Coach Cruz, father of us all, for the kind words. Onward to the Bronx Rodeo and Brain-Fry!
Posted from: 150.212.2.96
October 14th, 2008 06:01
i think these might be tied for my favorite pair of scardaliens.
Posted from: 167.206.203.14
October 14th, 2008 11:12
you’re phenomenal josh seiden.
Posted from: 140.247.237.168
October 15th, 2008 22:17
nice pic josh