Comments on: BREAKING NEWS: It’s Felons

By: Emanuel

Emanuel — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:45:47 +0000

I’m pretty sure agonism is cooperation and competition within a democracy.

By: Holly

Holly — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:37:46 +0000

Um 86: what is agonism? Agony?

By: Holly

Holly — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:37:07 +0000

so has everyone done a tourney on this topic yet?? Here in Cali, we’ve already done 2

By: EKim

EKim — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:16:14 +0000

AGONISM.

By: PC Guide

PC Guide — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:13:00 +0000

This will have to be a topic with clear definitions, and I for one will hesitate over buying “ex-felon” since the legal system, which is the context here, is not really going to support a flexible definition. Perhaps other folks using words less carefully have cluttered the literature, but Anglo-Saxon jurisprudence would indicate that one is either a felon or not a felon, based solely on a prior upstanding conviction of a crime labeled a felony.

By: Maria

Maria — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:40:13 +0000

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
lots to work on lotssss
to work on
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By: Holly

Holly — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:39:35 +0000

I would negate, just because that is my pesonal feeling that if they are a criminal they obviously dont have good judgement, through the Constitution: it takes away a criminal’s right to vote by due process, and if the arguement stands that once a felon, always a felon, then the neg would win because due process stands. A good Aff arguement i found was rights maximization, and equality. I belive the value of democracy is circular logic: you can’t use democracy to determine what is democratic. the same with the last resolution, you cant use morality to determine what is moral.

By: dweeks

dweeks — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:06:15 +0000

# 80 here has a point. China uses mandarin for its criminal code. Trying to translate Chinese characters directly into English common-law legal terminology is at best a very very flexible translation. At that point, you might as well translate “reform through labor” sentences as “going to Guantanamo Bay”. The two concepts have some tangential relation, but utterly are taken out of their contexts.
Besides the “democratic society” qualifier problem, you also have the big issue that many serious crimes are dealt with via administrative detention or punishment before a case even appears in the legal system. Also, the Chinese criminal justice system bears very minimal resemblance to the English or American systems, which definitely makes the translation of “felon” even more activist.

By: Blackship

Blackship — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:17:05 +0000

Felon is used only in English common law and orginally meant one whose crime warranted the confiscation of his fee, or fief–later, his land or goods. Thus conviction of a felony has always led to collateral punishment of serious crimes.

In the U.S., however, voting rights are controlled by the states, thanks to the 14th amendment. Nearly all states already have provisions for felons to get their voting rights back after serving their sentences, and two states allow them to vote while in prison.

Who says this is a good topic? It would seem to be moot unless it applies to felons still in prison or on probabation.

By: fritzpielstick

fritzpielstick — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:31:10 +0000

No. Canada uses the same legal terminology as Australia. Thx Wikipedia!

Also, the word “felon” is an english legal term. I highly doubt the Chinese use english-based legal terms in their criminal justice system.