Jake Nebel Defends His Greenhill Championship
Kinkaid Takes Policy Title
ADDISON, Tex. — Like the Greenhill Round Robin, the Greenhill Fall Classic featured a final round between a defending champion and a challenger: last year’s victor Jake Nebel of Trinity Preparatory School faced off against the Hockaday School’s Shivani Vohra. A panel of Neil Conrad, Tim Hogan, and Michelin Massey adjudicated, and as with the round robin, the defending champion emerged victorious: Jake defeated Shivani on a 3-0. Congratulations to both debaters!
While Lincoln-Douglas debate concluded on Sunday, policy debate continued onto Monday. The final round featured the team of Andrew Markoff and Regan Bozman from the Bronx High School of Science and the team of Craig Smyser and Layne Kirshon from the Kinkaid School. On a 2-1 decision — Kenda Cunningham and Chris Burk negated, while Matthew Farmer affirmed — Kinkaid defeated Bronx Science to take the tournament. Congratulations to both teams!
Craig and Layne are coached by Eric Emerson, Kyle Morris, Blake Johnson, and Claire McKinney; Andrew and Regan are coached by Kathryn Clark, David Marks, and Jon Cruz.
Results are being updated.
LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATE
(33) Meadows JL (Jordan LaMothe)
DOUBLES
(1) Scarsdale KH def. (32) Archer LB (Laura Bomes)
3-0 (Cherian Koshy, Peter Van Elswyk, Neil Conrad)
(2) Trinity Prep JN def. (31) Oak Mountain JL (Jeff Liu)
3-0 (Liz Scoggin, Patrick Diehl, Daniel Sheehan)
(3) Apple Valley CT def. (30) Crowley DL (Daniel Lumpee)
3-0 (Stephen Babb, Wesley Craven, Ernie Rose)
(4) Westlake DR def. (29) Apple Valley MK (Michelle Keohane)
3-0 (Eric Melin, Petey Gil-Montllor, Jeremy Schifberg)
(5) Stake Jesuit PT def. (28) Oak Mountain LL (Larry Liu)
3-0 (Anjan Choudhury, Mack Coleman, Arti Bhatia)
(6) Mountain View DG def. (27) Bronx Science SS (Saboor Sheerazi)
3-0 (Andy Werner, Johanna Tyler, David Donatti)
(7) Edina DM def. (26) Lakeville South CK (Christian Keil)
2-1 (Cherian Koshy, Peter Van Elswyk, *Neil Conrad)
(8) Southlake Carroll RB def. (25) Walt Whitman EN (Ellen Noble)
2-1 (Stephen Babb, *Wesley Craven, Ernie Rose)
(24) Walt Whitman JK def. (9) Westlake AW (Andrew Waks)
2-1 (Eric Melin, *Petey Gil-Montllor, Jeremy Schifberg)
(23) Walt Whitman BL def. (10) Mountain View DK (Daniel Khalessi)
2-1 (*Liz Scoggin, Patrick Diehl, Daniel Sheehan)
(11) Scarsdale MH def. (22) Lake Highland GB (Gurdane Bhutani)
3-0 (Dave McGinnis, Tom Evnen, Tim Hogan)
(12) Hockaday SV def. (21) South Eugene BS (Ben Schifberg)
2-1 (*Anjan Choudhury, Mack Coleman, Arti Bhatia)
(20) St. Louis Park CT def. (13) Mountain View JM (Jeff Merrill)
3-0 (Dave McGinnis, Tom Evnen, Tim Hogan)
(14) Edina BH def. (19) Valley MK (Matt Kawahara)
3-0 (Travis Smith, Michael O’Connell, Jon Cruz)
(15) Salado TC def. (18) Glenbrook North PD (Patrick Donovan)
2-1 (Andy Werner, *Dan Meyers, David Donatti)
(17) Desert Vista XL def. (16) Valley RB (Ross Brown)
3-0 (Travis Smith, Michael O’Connell, Jon Cruz)
OCTAS
(1) Scarsdale KH def. (17) Desert Vista XL (Xi Lin)
3-0 (Tim Hogan, Jon Cruz, Stephen Hess)
(2) Trinity Prep JN def. (15) Salado TC (Tyler Cook)
3-0 (Stephen Babb, Mack Coleman, Michelin Massey)
(3) Apple Valley CT def. (14) Edina BH (Ben Holguin)
2-1 (Anjan Choudhury, *Jeremy Schifberg, Patrick Diehl)
(20) St. Louis Park CT def. (4) Westlake DR (Devin Race)
2-1 (Daniel Sheehan, Ernie Rose, *Neil Conrad)
(12) Hockaday SV def. (5) Strake Jesuit PT (Paul Tyger)
2-1 (*Josh Aguilar, Joe Vaughan, Jo Russell)
(6) Mountain View DG def. (11) Scarsdale MH (Matt Hershey)
2-1 (Wade Houston, *David McGinnis, Arti Bhatia)
(7) Edina DM def. (23) Walt Whitman BL (Ben Lewis)
2-1 (Eric Melin, *Cherian Koshy, Petey Gil-Montllor)
(8) Southlake Carroll RB def. (24) Walt Whitman JK (Jane Kessner)
2-1 (Wesley Craven, Andy Werner, *Adam Nelson)
QUARTERS
(8) Southlake Carroll RB def. (1) Scarsdale KH (Ken Hershey)
3-0 (Petey Gil-Montllor, Tom Evnen, Stephen Hess)
(2) Trinity Prep JN def. (7) Edina DM (David McNeil)
3-0 (Patrick Diehl, Mack Coleman, Tim Hogan)
(3) Apple Valley CT def. (6) Mountain View DG (Daniel Garber)
3-0 (Michelin Massey, Neil Conrad, Adam Nelson)
(12) Hockaday SV over (20) St. Louis Park CT (Catherine Tarsney)
Forfeit (Eric Melin, Jake Gelfand, Joe Vaughan)
SEMIS
(12) Hockaday SV def. (8) Southlake Carroll RB (Ryan Bennett)
2-1 (*Cherian Koshy, Stephen Hess, Mack Coleman)
(2) Trinity Prep JN def. (3) Apple Valley CT (Chris Theis)
2-1 (*Patrick Diehl, Neil Conrad, Michelin Massey)
FINALS
(2) Trinity Prep JN def. (12) Hockaday SV (Shivani Vohra)
3-0 (Neil Conrad, Tim Hogan, Michelin Massey)
CHAMPION
(2) Trinity Prep JN (Jake Nebel)
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TOP SPEAKERS
1. Jake Nebel — Trinity Preparatory School (FL) [Marc Wallenstein Award]
2. Ken Hershey — Scarsdale High School (NY)
3. Chris Theis — Apple Valley High School (MN)
4. Devin Race — Westlake High School (TX)
5. Paul Tyger — Strake Jesuit College Preparatory School (TX)
6. Daniel Garber — Mountain View High School (CA)
7. Ryan Bennett — Southlake Carroll High School (TX)
8. David McNeil — Edina High School (MN)
9. Daniel Khalessi — Mountain View High School (CA)
10. Andrew Waks — Westlake High School (TX)
11. Matt Hershey — Scarsdale High School (NY)
12. Ross Brown — Valley High School (IA)
13. Shivani Vohra — The Hockaday School (TX)
14. Jeff Merrill — Mountain View High School (CA)
15. Xi Lin — Desert Vista High School (AZ)
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Posted from: 206.53.144.79
September 13th, 2008 08:36
Good luck Albuquerque Academy-IiI
Posted from: 8.12.144.58
September 13th, 2008 08:54
Great rd. 1 Josh…Keep pluggn!
Posted from: 206.251.74.247
September 13th, 2008 08:59
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Posted from: 71.190.112.153
September 13th, 2008 10:35
GO BRONX!
Posted from: 69.120.236.168
September 13th, 2008 13:51
GO GRENADE!
Posted from: 96.229.143.242
September 13th, 2008 15:08
GO BRENTWOOD!
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 13th, 2008 17:07
GO SALADO?
Posted from: 68.240.198.244
September 13th, 2008 17:53
LOSE MISERABLY PHIL!
Posted from: 68.13.76.221
September 13th, 2008 18:01
Round 4 policy?
Posted from: 96.10.200.11
September 13th, 2008 18:46
tess mcnulty will defeat the competition.
Posted from: 96.10.200.11
September 13th, 2008 18:47
albuquerque academy will defeat the competition.
Posted from: 98.109.41.141
September 14th, 2008 05:03
ayo suh-lay-do, bring it home big guy, 2 tourneys, 2 bids
Posted from: 98.199.4.237
September 14th, 2008 09:08
Congrats to Daniel Lumpee Waksy, Devin, and Paul for breaking.
Keep up the good work.
Also, shout out to my teammate Sasha Chada for going 4-2 and barely missing the break. You keep up the good work too.
Posted from: 68.196.195.40
September 14th, 2008 09:09
Liu twins FTW!
Posted from: 68.192.28.123
September 14th, 2008 09:12
GO LIU BOYS GO
Posted from: 69.118.140.49
September 14th, 2008 09:14
Congrats to Matt and Ken for breaking!
Posted from: 68.192.28.123
September 14th, 2008 09:14
Oh. And very solid Tyger and Donovan.
Posted from: 165.123.209.78
September 14th, 2008 09:14
ryan bennett (southlake carroll rb) also broke, but is not on this list.
Posted from: 74.70.104.135
September 14th, 2008 09:32
Congrats to Jeff and Larry for breaking as sophomores.
Posted from: 68.93.133.116
September 14th, 2008 09:33
That list only has 30 people, 31 with Ryan Bennett. Who’s the last kid?
Posted from: 75.36.163.239
September 14th, 2008 09:36
job well done pat
Posted from: 75.36.163.239
September 14th, 2008 09:40
grats to the lui bros too
Posted from: 67.180.74.185
September 14th, 2008 10:11
Congrats Pat and everyone else.
Posted from: 67.180.74.185
September 14th, 2008 10:15
and the lius.
Posted from: 67.80.215.195
September 14th, 2008 10:31
XIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Posted from: 68.192.172.63
September 14th, 2008 10:39
congrats xi/all the whitman debaters/ben and saboor for breaking
Posted from: 74.70.104.135
September 14th, 2008 11:57
Also, congrats to Ben Lewis
Posted from: 76.4.250.35
September 14th, 2008 11:59
way to rep UNT top lab whitman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! congrats and good luck to everyone!
Posted from: 152.17.63.243
September 14th, 2008 12:01
Finals is
Adam Silver vs. Rachel Umans
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 14th, 2008 12:01
Doubles: Scarsdale KH def. Archer LB 3-0 (Koshy, Conrad, Van Elswick)
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 14th, 2008 12:03
some doubles results:
Apple Valley CT def. Crowley DL (Babb, Craven, Rose)
Strake PT def. Oak Mountain LL (Choudhury, Coleman, Bhatia) 3-0
Westlake DR def. Apple Valley MK (Melin, Gil, Schifberg)
Mountain View DG def. Bronx SS (Bexley, Werner, Donatti) 3-0
Trinity Prep JN def. Oak Mountain JL (Scoggin, Diehl, Sheehan) 3-0
Scarsdale MH def. Lake Highland GB (McGinnis, Evnen, Hogan)
Scarsdale KH def. Archer LB (Koshy, Van Elswyck, Conrad) 3-0
Edina BH def. Valley MK (Smith, O’Connell, Cruz)
Posted from: 24.174.27.25
September 14th, 2008 12:04
Anyone have doubles postings or results?
Posted from: 98.199.4.237
September 14th, 2008 12:08
Congrats to Devin and Paul for finishing their quals. 2 tournaments, 2 bids.
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 14th, 2008 12:46
Edina DM def. Lakeville South CK 2-1 (Koshy, Van Elswick, *Conrad)
Posted from: 63.123.252.6
September 14th, 2008 13:05
Man, GJ liu boys. You guys fought a good fight :)
Posted from: 70.242.123.63
September 14th, 2008 13:14
Congrats Danny on the bid round :)
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 14th, 2008 14:15
Hockaday SV def. South Eugene BS (Bhati, Coleman, *Choudhury)
Posted from: 98.150.248.205
September 14th, 2008 14:18
congrats to tyler and paul for both getting bid #2
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 14th, 2008 14:43
In octas:
Edina DM > Whitman BL
AV CT > Edina BH
Trinity JN > Salado TC
Posted from: 71.63.142.165
September 14th, 2008 14:58
Apple Valley CT is in Quarters.
Posted from: 71.113.250.217
September 14th, 2008 15:39
Congrats Saboor!
Posted from: 68.196.201.226
September 14th, 2008 15:49
LIU POWER. And congrats to tyler cook for qualifying for toc in a week.
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 14th, 2008 16:08
ken hershey, daniel garber, shivani vohra, ryan bennett, david mcneil, jake nebel, chris theis are in quarters.
I think that catherine tarsney had to forfeit her round to shivani, but I might be wrong.
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
September 14th, 2008 16:22
Yes, Catherine had to forfeit in order to catch her flight home.(Congrats, Catherine, on the first bid of the season.)
Posted from: 128.252.254.28
September 14th, 2008 16:32
omg epic neebul v. mcneel redux in da making
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 14th, 2008 16:32
Quarters:
Scarsdale KH (Ken Hershey) v. Southlake Carroll RB (Ryan Bennett)
St. Louis Park CT (Catherine Tarsney) v. Hockaday SV (Shivani Vohra) (Shivani advances because Cathrine had to leave)
Trinity Prep JN (Jake Nebel) v. Edina DM (David McNeil)
Apple Valley CT (Chris Theis) v. Mountain View DG (Daniel Garber)
Posted from: 98.194.4.236
September 14th, 2008 16:42
Tyler - you are my hero.
Posted from: 24.164.191.184
September 14th, 2008 16:57
Congrats Paul, Waks, Saboor, Tyler!, PD, Ben, Matt, and CK
Posted from: 76.30.16.54
September 14th, 2008 17:30
congrats to CAD alumni tyler cook on being the first of 3 to finish his TOC qual first, and to jeff merrill on another bid round.
also congrats to catherine and devin and paul and bennett
i am updating LD TOC Scoreboard right now, be sure to keep up with it
ldscoreboard.blogspot.com
Posted from: 208.120.131.125
September 14th, 2008 17:34
congrats saboor on the bid round.
Posted from: 128.36.87.157
September 14th, 2008 17:44
nice job saboora
Posted from: 128.62.152.251
September 14th, 2008 17:48
I’d like to start by sending a congrats to Tyler Cook who is one of the hardest workers. Also congrats to his wonderful coaches who have also worked so hard… Tim Cook, and Josh Aguilar, and to Tyler’s brother Travis who never gets the credit he deserves.
Great job guys!
Posted from: 24.227.218.24
September 14th, 2008 17:55
A huge congrats to Devin, Paul and Tyler on getting the first quals of the year. Awesome job guys!
And also, a shout out goes to Jeff Merrill on a second bid round in as many weeks. I was really impressed when I saw you debate at CAD, and I know you will continue to do great this year.
Lastly, congrats to Ryan and Shivani on getting bid #1
Posted from: 165.123.209.78
September 14th, 2008 18:09
from what i hear, semis is ryan bennett v. shivani vohra in one round, and chris theis v. jake nebel in the other
Posted from: 71.113.250.217
September 14th, 2008 18:15
I just learned that the Bronx policy team of Andrew Markoff and Regan Bozman also cleared and is still debating, so congrats!!
Posted from: 150.212.2.219
September 14th, 2008 18:48
RB. RB.
Posted from: 208.120.131.125
September 14th, 2008 20:18
finals?
Posted from: 71.86.115.6
September 14th, 2008 20:20
Congrats to Whitman for showing their dominance early. Also to Tyler and Devin for completing the qual.
Posted from: 71.139.44.246
September 14th, 2008 20:36
Shivani beat Bennett in sems, from what I hear.
Posted from: 165.123.209.78
September 14th, 2008 20:46
finals is jake v. shivani
Posted from: 98.194.191.107
September 14th, 2008 21:22
congrats to ryan on semis.
and tyler cook for qualling.
Posted from: 32.150.50.76
September 14th, 2008 21:34
Jake beat Shivani in finals, as he reports.
Posted from: 72.57.175.223
September 14th, 2008 21:51
bennett you are a beast and you make jenn and i smile to no end.
congrats to the whitman crew on 5 bids in one day. if that doesn’t make you smile anjan, then i don’t know if anything will.
one final note…paul tyger sux at pocket tanks…j/k
Posted from: 192.195.154.225
September 14th, 2008 21:55
how many people have ever won greenhill two years in a row?
Posted from: 206.251.74.247
September 14th, 2008 22:03
[…] Greenhill — Finals: Trinity Prep’s Jake Nebel defeated Hockaday’s Shivani Vohra on a 3-0 to defend his title. Wake Forest — Finals: Bronx Science’s Adam Silver defeated Walt Whitman’s Rachel Umans on a 3-2. Greenhill RR — Finals: Apple Valley’s Chris Theis defeated Scarsdale’s Ken Hershey on a 3-0 to defend his title. […]
Posted from: 76.30.16.54
September 14th, 2008 22:05
now that the tournament is over
congrats to jake and petey for another impressive showing, congrats to bennett, to shivani and hockaday, and to everyone else i said congrats to earlier
Posted from: 12.5.250.229
September 14th, 2008 22:14
Congrats to all the fantastic debaters I saw all weekend (23 debates in total), and of course to Ben and Jane on their first bids of the year, and to Tyler and Paul for repping the Shadow lab hard (and getting their second bids to TOC!).
But most important - major props to Ryan, Melin, and the SLC crew. Yall deserve this!
Posted from: 75.25.136.243
September 15th, 2008 00:45
Congrats to Jake, who’s one of the very best debaters I’ve seen in the last few years, and Petey on an impressive weekend.
Posted from: 128.252.254.28
September 15th, 2008 01:10
gg holguin, mcneil, and nebel
Posted from: 68.44.231.47
September 15th, 2008 03:21
congrats to ellen, saboor, gurdane, and CK for breaking; jane and XIIIII for the bids; chris for rockin it; and jake for managing to look like a cardboard cutout of himself in yet another finals picture
Posted from: 12.5.250.229
September 15th, 2008 08:11
congrats to both ken and matt on a very impressive weekend. also to jake on what appears to be the beginning of another highly successful year.
Posted from: 12.216.167.34
September 15th, 2008 08:21
Congrats to everyone at the tournament. It was a tremendous event. Thanks to AT and the Ghill crew for yet another fabulous Fall Classic.
Posted from: 128.83.211.206
September 15th, 2008 08:47
Major congrats to Paul, Devin, and yes even you Tyler for finishing off your quals. Also, great job to Shivani and Ryan.
Posted from: 69.118.137.26
September 15th, 2008 09:54
major congrats to jake.
speakers:
1. jake nebel
2. ken hershey
3. chris theis
shivani, devin, and paul were all up there as well. also, matt hershey was 11th speaker
Posted from: 66.68.159.87
September 15th, 2008 10:15
Congrats to Devin and Tyler for qualling!
Posted from: 64.241.37.140
September 15th, 2008 11:14
Congrats on the bid Jane!
Posted from: 12.5.250.229
September 15th, 2008 11:43
Anjan dissented in my round against Shivani and Wes dissented in the Noble vs. Bennett round
Posted from: 65.125.82.250
September 15th, 2008 11:45
eric melin sucks at pocket tanks as well!!
Posted from: 24.90.20.221
September 15th, 2008 15:40
MAJOR congrats to regan and andrew for making it to finals in policy especially since this is their 3rd year of debate.
Posted from: 68.95.249.117
September 15th, 2008 15:42
John Scoggin “How many people have ever won greenhill two years in a row?”
1
Posted from: 69.118.137.26
September 15th, 2008 16:05
congrats to everyone.
is there an online packet or anything?
Posted from: 136.152.162.95
September 15th, 2008 16:53
http://www.joyoftournaments.com/tx/greenhill/info.asp?p=5
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
September 15th, 2008 16:53
The online packet is on JOT
Posted from: 128.36.87.157
September 15th, 2008 17:51
major congrats andrew and regan on policy finals
Posted from: 75.168.19.232
September 15th, 2008 20:58
I’m so much better at debate than Jake Nebel. He’d be done right after my first rebuttal. Hust like that.
Posted from: 24.7.71.153
September 16th, 2008 01:38
lol phelaments
Posted from: 98.195.169.63
September 16th, 2008 11:22
Congrats to Laura, Michelle, Jeff, Chris, and all the members of the Meth Lab, especially TyCook!
Why was there a forfeit?
Posted from: 129.115.251.142
September 16th, 2008 11:27
From my understanding Catherine had to catch her flight and it was too expensive to get another one
Posted from: 207.172.84.123
September 16th, 2008 13:17
Congratulations to Ben, Jane, Ellen, Catherine, Shivani, Paul and Christian!
Posted from: 128.12.94.63
September 16th, 2008 15:33
Congrats to jake for winning. Also, congrats to theis, david, ben, ken, and shivani.
Posted from: 68.204.72.85
September 16th, 2008 19:25
Congrats Jeff, larry, jake, gurdane,dfk,
Posted from: 98.14.255.196
September 16th, 2008 21:44
The first-ever repeat Greenhill champion couldn’t be a more modest man. Congratulations, Jake, on the latest feather in your cap and on a very hard-fought, well-earned victory, and a very well-deserved top speaker award as well. Your hard work is inspiring.
Congratulations as well to Shivani for an amazing run throughout the weekend. We like to think of the entire Vohra family as honorary Bronx Science members. So, from Bronx Science to you, congratulations!
Special shout out to Bronx Science’s Andrew Markoff and Regan Bozman for advancing to finals in policy debate at the Hill. A third-year team in the final round of an octas bid tournament is awesome, and there pretty much aren’t two more awesome people in the event. Great job, guys. Congratulations as well to Saboor for advancing to the bid round at his first tournament of the season!
Finally, many thanks to Aaron Timmons. Richard B. Sodikow reminded me in an e-mail this weekend that there are few folks in the debate community more passionate about our activity than AT. I didn’t really need to be reminded, though: his incredible hospitality and dedication to quality throughout the weekend was inspiring. Thanks so much for making us feel so welcome in both LD and policy at both the round robin and the tournament.
Posted from: 128.113.234.40
September 18th, 2008 07:27
Congrats to Xi Lin, and the Wade’s crew!
And much love to valley
Posted from: 71.212.152.58
September 18th, 2008 07:40
Congratulations to all for some awesome performances this weekend. It was great to see old friends and make new ones.
I was really impressed with much of the debate I saw this weekend, especially in light of the topic’s constraints on good debating. The Greenhill Fall Classic and Round Robin always feature the best and brightest in our activity.
On a separate note, I do encourage debaters to start posting to the case list wiki. I know that there’s debate about this, but I mean… if the defending TOC champ and 2x Greenhill RR winner (i.e. the kid with the biggest target on his back in all of high school LD) is on there, why aren’t you?
Just some food for thought,
Michelin Massey
Posted from: 70.231.164.73
September 18th, 2008 17:43
Were his cases up before or after the TOC?
And was there a caselist made available for the Greenhill Tournament (or the RR, perhaps)?
Expos factos caselists are fun to read, but don’t really do too much after that, y’know?
props to everyone who debated felt like they did well.
Posted from: 75.72.79.154
September 18th, 2008 21:09
just to clarify, I think Massey is saying that Chris Theis has posted outlines of his AC and NC on this topic online, not that he posted his TOC cases online (although he may have, I don’t remember).
Posted from: 168.212.247.7
September 19th, 2008 08:45
Pete Frampton congratulates:
Valley
DFK
and the rest of NSD
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 19th, 2008 09:01
Photos from the Greenhill Fall Classic are up at http://greenhill.stadis.net.
Enjoy.
Posted from: 98.201.169.46
September 19th, 2008 15:29
i have recently added a point system, state bid count, and other features to the LD TOC scoreboard, so feel free to come check it out. i am announcing it here because i plan to update the points after every octas bid.
check it out, and feel free to praise or criticize the system at:
ldscoreboard.blogspot.com
Posted from: 75.37.3.227
September 19th, 2008 17:54
would someone mind posting the web adress for the case list?