Ann Miura Wins the TOC
"Time Machine": Jon Cruz Digitizes the Debate Past
LEXINGTON, Ky. — The 1994 Tournament of Champions concluded with an intense final round between Palo Alto High School’s Ann Miura and Vestavia Hills High School’s Claire Carman. The final panel consisted of Richard Handloff, Les Phillips, and Fred Robertson. On a 2-1 decision — Handloff dissented — fourteenth seed Ann upset first seed and first speaker Claire to take the TOC title. Congratulations to both!
The complete field for the 1994 TOC is available.
Ann was coached by Andrew Morse and Victor Jih; Claire was coached by Marilee Dukes.
Underclassmen Laura Ann Fernandez of the Academy of the Holy Names, Christi Keller of Duncanville High School, Justin Osofsky of Isidore Newman School, Geoffrey Upton of Hunter College High School, and Tyra Williams of Vestavia Hills High School advanced into the elimination rounds and received auto-qualifications to the 1995 Tournament of Champions.
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OCTAS
(1) Vestavia Hills CC def. (16) Holy Names LF (Laura Ann Fernandez) 3-0
(2) Shenendehowa LR def. (15) Findlay KG (Kirk Greer) 2-1
(14) Palo Alto AM def. (3) Vestavia Hills TW (Tyra Williams) 3-0
(4) Isidore Newman JO def. (13) Teaneck MK (Mark Krumholz) 3-0
(12) Bronx Science AA def. (5) Duncanville CK (Christi Keller) 3-0
(6) Hunter College JK def. (11) Hendrick Hudson DG (Devin Gordon) 2-1
(7) Hunter College GU def. (12) Homewood LM (Lynsey Morris) 3-0
(9) Iowa City West DP (8) Alhambra AG (Albert Giang) 2-1
QUARTERS
(1) Vestavia Hills CC def. (9) Iowa City West DP (Dan Pittman) 3-0
(14) Palo Alto AM def. (6) Hunter College JK (Joo Yun Kim) 3-0
(7) Hunter College GU def. (2) Shenendehowa LR (Liz Rogers) 2-1
(12) Bronx Science AA def. (4) Isidore Newman JO (Justin Osofsky) 2-1
SEMIS
(1) Vestavia Hills CC def. (12) Bronx Science AA (Alexhandra Aimee) 3-0
(14) Palo Alto AM def. (7) Hunter College GU (Geoffrey Upton) 2-1
FINALS
(14) Palo Alto AM def. (1) Vestavia Hills CC (Claire Carman)
2-1 (Fred Robertson, *Richard Handloff, Les Phillips)
TOC CHAMPION
(14) Palo Alto AM (Ann Miura)
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TOP SPEAKERS
1. Claire Carman — Vestavia Hills High School (AL) [Walter Alan Ulrich Award]
(I am still attempting to recover the full list of top speakers from the 1994 TOC.)
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As part of my ongoing project of insuring an institutional memory for Lincoln-Douglas debate, I have been carefully organizing, transcribing, and digitizing materials I have found in the Chellgren Center Debate Office at the University of Kentucky. My thanks to Linda Barker, J.W. Patterson, and Roger Solt for their assistance!
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Posted from: 67.9.155.146
July 2nd, 2008 13:44
i feel like there needs to be some discussion of the new lil wayne album on this website.
Posted from: 70.138.96.26
July 2nd, 2008 14:04
tha overhyped 3
Posted from: 69.151.194.217
July 2nd, 2008 14:21
welcome to the life of jon cruz
Posted from: 66.233.57.238
July 2nd, 2008 14:44
paul tyger has officially become one of my least favorite internet people evah. in person, he’s ok.
the carter 3 was a mixtape. copping the misunderstood beat from common only reinforces that. however, it’s a damn good mixtape, with a few out of this world ga-mazing songs. however, i’m still waiting for the real studio release. i would never ever ever call it overhyped. the only lil wayne that you can criticize is that released pre-carter 2.
mjocon’s right. this site also needed to have nba draft coverage/a debater’s mock.
Posted from: 96.229.143.242
July 2nd, 2008 15:07
Findlay KG - is that the Kirk Greer that coaches at Chicago Latin?
Posted from: 71.139.17.99
July 2nd, 2008 15:40
Ann Miura was, of course, coached by Victor Jih at the time! We might be seeing Ann’s return on the circuit soon as a Paly coach…stay tuned. And we *will* be seeing Ann’s teammate Ben Crosson’s triumphant return to the circuit — he’s helping Paly out next year as well.
Posted from: 136.152.148.92
July 2nd, 2008 18:53
I believe that Kirk Greer from the results is indeed the same Kirk who coaches Latin.
There is a Findlay in Ohio, and I’m 95% sure Kirk debated there.
Not 100% sure though.
Posted from: 76.17.167.243
July 2nd, 2008 19:27
tha carter 3 is not a mixtape. all the beats were made exclusively for the album and not copped from any previous recording. the misunderstood beat on tha carter 3 was merely sampled from the same song that devo springsteen sampled for the common song.
overhyped?!? even after all the song were leaked weeks, if not months, in advance the album still managed to go gold the first day and platinum the first week…
Posted from: 24.90.20.221
July 2nd, 2008 19:52
the good songs on the album are the ones that were singles previously, the album as a whole is nowhere close to other great rap albums contrary to its hype. and just because it sold lots of records doesn’t mean that lil wayne is a half way decent lyricist. all he ever does is rhyme the same word over and over again.
Posted from: 128.163.7.228
July 2nd, 2008 20:17
http://www.therealkylestewart.com/biscuits/may08/Bloody_Lollipop.mp3
Bloody beetroots vs that popluar song
Posted from: 74.127.152.3
July 2nd, 2008 22:27
To be straight with all yallz i think that the carter 3 straight sucks, ya herd?
Posted from: 74.127.152.3
July 2nd, 2008 22:32
also, as saboor pointed out, “all he ever does is rhyme the same word over and over again.”
I would typically say that rhyming the same thing over and over again is über-phat but that’s not what The Notorious B.I.G. does, so it is therephor not.
Posted from: 66.233.57.238
July 2nd, 2008 22:40
THERE IS NOTHING I WOULD LIKE MORE THAN TO START A FLAME WAR OVER WEEZY. BRING THA NOIZE.
1. saboor, you obviously are ignint. Dr. Carter, Phone Home, Mrs. Officer, Let the Beat Build, Shoot Me Down, and Nothing On Me are all paragons of previously unreleased awesomeness.
2. saboor, you’re just plain wrong. no one else can pull off “…yeast infection/go, fly hard like geese erection,” much less “and to the kids drugs kill i’m acknowledging that, but when i’m on the drugs i don’t have a problem with that.” Lil’ Wayne might as well be a poet laureate compared to every other MC in the game.
3. Q: Does the released status of A Millie make it any less a fucking banger? A: Fuck no.
4. Switts, I meant that it has a more of a mixtape feel than the Carter 2. And i know the sample is the same, I was just pointing out that it reinforces the mixtape feel. I wish he had done the opening and ending songs motif again (like with Fly In and Fly Out on the Carter 2)
THE CARTER 3 NO ES SUCK. IN POINT OF FACT, IT’S A CLASSIK. Granted, I like the Drought 3 more, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t also some stadium status material. The Carter 3 is not Illmatic, but it’s better than Stillmatic. The Carter 3 is not Reasonable Doubt, but it’s better than every other Jay Album except American Gangster. The Carter 3 is not Ready to Die, but it blows every other PDiddy affiliated album out of the water.
Weezy F Baby (please say the) even sounds good on songs with Fat Joe. Nuff said
Posted from: 76.17.167.243
July 3rd, 2008 03:28
fair enough sir rebar. no more quarrel do we have as i too shall join the good fight.
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“the good songs on the album are the ones that were singles previously”
you know that the only songs released as singles off Tha Carter 3 were “Lollipop,” “A Milli,” and “Get Money” right? are you willing to claim that those are the best songs off the album, let alone the only good songs? have you even listened to the entire album?
“the album as a whole is nowhere close to other great rap albums contrary to its hype.”
i dont know who is hyping it to be one of the G.O.A.T.s but it is definitely better than the majority of rap albums that have been released so far (as rebar aptly points out). and when it comes to mainstream music, which you seem to have an immutable aversion to due to hating on Tha Carter 3 solely because of its hype or sales, it blows anything else out of the water.
“all he ever does is rhyme the same word over and over again.”
i completely agree. every single line, verse, and song is exactly the same as the last.
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IF THERE ARE ANY MORE HATERS SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE
Posted from: 68.11.25.35
July 3rd, 2008 07:16
Lil Wayne will be judging at New Orleans Jesuit’s LD tournament this year, seeing as how he grew up less than three miles away from our school. Word.
Posted from: 24.151.41.11
July 3rd, 2008 08:27
I haven’t got Tha Carter 3 yet, but I have to say Rebar is legit.
Personally I don’t like the shift in the rap game towards lil wayne, but theres no doubt he has talent. On another note, people need to start listening to DMX again. I dont know where and how people started considering him a worse rapper than lil wayne, snoop dogg, jay z, 50 cent (lolz).
Posted from: 24.176.180.161
July 3rd, 2008 08:30
Myth: Lil Wayne is a rapper.
Fact: Lil Wayne is the rapper.
(the content of this ad has been brought to you by The Coalition for Lil’ Wayne, Lil’ Jon ‘08)(as a side note: I think Lil’ Wayne and Lil’ Jon would be Lil’ Government)
Posted from: 24.176.180.161
July 3rd, 2008 08:44
Also, I was just reading the economist and found this.
“Consider the hot album of the moment: ‘Tha Carter 3′ by Lil’ Wayne. Its central message is that if you are a rap star, you will get laid. The song “Lollipop”, for example, celebrates a young lady who treats Lil Wayne as she might a lollipop. On the last track Lil Wayne does get serious. He laments that “one in every nine black Americans are locked up” and that “the money that we spend on sending a motherfucker to jail…would be less to send his or her young as to college.” Troy Nkrumah, the chairman of the National Hip-Hop Political Convention, thinks it wonderful that Lil Wayne is speaking truth to power.”
Posted from: 24.176.180.161
July 3rd, 2008 08:44
Also, I was just reading the economist and found this.
“Consider the hot album of the moment: ‘Tha Carter 3′ by Lil’ Wayne. Its central message is that if you are a rap star, you will get laid. The song “Lollipop”, for example, celebrates a young lady who treats Lil Wayne as she might a lollipop. On the last track Lil Wayne does get serious. He laments that “one in every nine black Americans are locked up” and that “the money that we spend on sending a motherfucker to jail…would be less to send his or her young as to college.” Troy Nkrumah, the chairman of the National Hip-Hop Political Convention, thinks it wonderful that Lil Wayne is speaking truth to power.”
I consider that an endorsement from the economist.
Lil’Wayne Lil’Jon 08
Posted from: 24.176.180.161
July 3rd, 2008 08:45
post 18 wasn’t supposed to send, srry
Posted from: 129.120.4.1
July 3rd, 2008 09:26
why all the anachronism! we’re supposed to be LARPing as the 1994 debate community! what about that new vanilla ice joint, “mind blowin.” or how about illmatic? instant classic!
Posted from: 24.7.64.100
July 3rd, 2008 09:44
carter 3 is sick, which i didn’t expect because da drought 3 and the leak were all kinds of suck
Posted from: 24.151.41.11
July 3rd, 2008 10:54
3 peat is the best song on the carter 3
Posted from: 66.233.57.238
July 3rd, 2008 10:58
3 peat is sick.
Lil’ Government is non-functional. Lil’ Revolution more like it.
Mangus blows us all out of the water. Forever. He is the people’s champ of VBD.
Posted from: 24.176.180.161
July 3rd, 2008 11:16
fo sho
Posted from: 96.229.143.242
July 3rd, 2008 14:14
did anyone see last nights episode of In Living Colour?
Posted from: 129.120.4.1
July 3rd, 2008 14:28
omg in living color…yes. pre-censorship…those were the good ones.
Posted from: 128.255.232.59
July 3rd, 2008 14:35
DUUUUDE. Those Fly Girls are, well, fly.
Posted from: 24.7.64.100
July 3rd, 2008 14:35
bietz–do you mean the episode where lil wayne went back in time 14 years to perform a set from his hit new album, tha carter 3?
Posted from: 216.220.216.153
July 3rd, 2008 15:40
Mad props to mjocon for bringing up a vital issue.
Tha Carter III is fire. Shabazz I’m not sure where his claim about “rapping the same words over” comes from. There are many legitimate criticisms about Dwayne, but I think anyone who listens to Tha Carter III can agree that homie can spit. Especially listen to “La La” (the ‘I’m richer than Nicole and I’m a lion like her daddy’ blurb tanks with all time weezy lyrics). Reebz you know Wayne is different because he puts out enough material to satisfy every taste. Mixtape Wayne, Guest spot Wayne, Hood banger wayne, etc. However album wayne tries to satisfy all of those tastes and its not successful a lot of the time.
CIII, 3 peat.
Posted from: 24.176.180.161
July 3rd, 2008 17:25
That was sweet.
Please tell me you guys brought that boa to a tournament.
Lil’ Wayne’s hoes would like that.
Posted from: 76.17.167.243
July 3rd, 2008 21:34
even worse is when he rhymes the same two words with each other…
“Lollipop Remix ft. Kanye West”
ya girlfriend she say I got great sex
Safe sex is great sex
Better wear a latex
Cuz you dont want that late text
that “I think I’m late” text