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	<title>Comments on: Ellen Noble Wins the NCFL</title>
	<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Liuna</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-271177</link>
		<dc:creator>Liuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-271177</guid>
		<description>I second that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second that.</p>
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		<title>By: Lumpee</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-271164</link>
		<dc:creator>Lumpee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-271164</guid>
		<description>Ellen is dominant. The end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen is dominant. The end.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-267564</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-267564</guid>
		<description>CONGRATS ELLEN!
major congrats to Perry for semis, Ben and Rachel in PF and Drew in congress for all breaking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CONGRATS ELLEN!<br />
major congrats to Perry for semis, Ben and Rachel in PF and Drew in congress for all breaking!</p>
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		<title>By: Lakeville North JT</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262856</link>
		<dc:creator>Lakeville North JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262856</guid>
		<description>http://www.ncfl.org/gnt/gntpast/gntpast.html

Results are posted.</description>
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<p>Results are posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Geairn</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262635</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Geairn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262635</guid>
		<description>OK, COntillo, thanks for letting me know. Did he say if it was a close round? And if you could ask, I want to know how the judges looked past the idea that intelectual virtue always comes first because the other virtues don't matter if not applied intellegently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, COntillo, thanks for letting me know. Did he say if it was a close round? And if you could ask, I want to know how the judges looked past the idea that intelectual virtue always comes first because the other virtues don&#8217;t matter if not applied intellegently.</p>
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		<title>By: vivian feig</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262484</link>
		<dc:creator>vivian feig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 06:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262484</guid>
		<description>ELLEN IS A SUPERSTAR!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ELLEN IS A SUPERSTAR!!!</p>
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		<title>By: contillo</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262182</link>
		<dc:creator>contillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262182</guid>
		<description>If he didn't get back to you, he judged for my team, and we discussed the rd. The short version of the story was that you won the standards debate, but he voted off of the NC extensions that spoke about the increase in hippocampus activity, which apparently cleanly linked to your standard. He voted there because it outweighed on a level of extension strength (i.e., it was cleanly extended).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he didn&#8217;t get back to you, he judged for my team, and we discussed the rd. The short version of the story was that you won the standards debate, but he voted off of the NC extensions that spoke about the increase in hippocampus activity, which apparently cleanly linked to your standard. He voted there because it outweighed on a level of extension strength (i.e., it was cleanly extended).</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Geairn</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262167</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Geairn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262167</guid>
		<description>I believe the judge was Matt Smith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the judge was Matt Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Geairn</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262110</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Geairn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-262110</guid>
		<description>Hey, I know there was a judge on there who offered to e-mail me an RFD from octafinals against Muthu.  If you could that would be awesome (closest round of my life). My e-mail is chsLDTG@yahoo.com .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I know there was a judge on there who offered to e-mail me an RFD from octafinals against Muthu.  If you could that would be awesome (closest round of my life). My e-mail is <a href="mailto:chsLDTG@yahoo.com">chsLDTG@yahoo.com</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: Muthu A</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-261979</link>
		<dc:creator>Muthu A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/05/26/ellen-noble-wins-the-ncfl/#comment-261979</guid>
		<description>Re: Hassin (32)

My cases were fairly straightforward, and after having debated the topic for a few rounds, the resolution wasn't as limited as I expected. I actually found it more substantively interesting than a few other topics. 

In finals, my affirmative (as Anjan said) talked about how the fine arts stimulate moral growth and development through self-reflection, increased humbleness, compassion, and a few other things. It also argued that athletics stifled moral development through steroids use,  bribery, and exclusion of individuals. Finally, it explained that moral development was critical at a young age because moral values become fixed and immovable with time. The impact to moral development was increased societal progress through solving social problems. 

The more interesting of my negative cases, and the one I would have run had I negated in the final round, said that valuing something implies a view of positive worth toward that object. For example, you can't value dishonesty. Thus, the thesis of the NC was that neither the fine arts nor athletics should be valued because they both cause a tradeoff with academic focus. The case said that India and China were taking our place in the global market and our only way to catch up to them was to decrease athletics/fine arts and focus more on academics. This is true because schools in India/China and almost every other developed nation spend 2x the time we do on academics and its paying off for them. 

Congratulations to Ellen for an awesome job in finals! Good luck next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Hassin (32)</p>
<p>My cases were fairly straightforward, and after having debated the topic for a few rounds, the resolution wasn&#8217;t as limited as I expected. I actually found it more substantively interesting than a few other topics. </p>
<p>In finals, my affirmative (as Anjan said) talked about how the fine arts stimulate moral growth and development through self-reflection, increased humbleness, compassion, and a few other things. It also argued that athletics stifled moral development through steroids use,  bribery, and exclusion of individuals. Finally, it explained that moral development was critical at a young age because moral values become fixed and immovable with time. The impact to moral development was increased societal progress through solving social problems. </p>
<p>The more interesting of my negative cases, and the one I would have run had I negated in the final round, said that valuing something implies a view of positive worth toward that object. For example, you can&#8217;t value dishonesty. Thus, the thesis of the NC was that neither the fine arts nor athletics should be valued because they both cause a tradeoff with academic focus. The case said that India and China were taking our place in the global market and our only way to catch up to them was to decrease athletics/fine arts and focus more on academics. This is true because schools in India/China and almost every other developed nation spend 2x the time we do on academics and its paying off for them. </p>
<p>Congratulations to Ellen for an awesome job in finals! Good luck next year.</p>
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