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	<title>Comments on: New Airline Baggage Policies Will Directly Impact Debaters</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: slurie</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241915</link>
		<dc:creator>slurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other news:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/26/obama.debate/index.html

I hope we continue to have judges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other news:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/26/obama.debate/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/26/obama.debate/index.html</a></p>
<p>I hope we continue to have judges.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan G</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241905</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"of course, theres also a lot of human factors research shows significantly slower reading speeds (as much as 30%) when reading from a computer instead of paper"

why's that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;of course, theres also a lot of human factors research shows significantly slower reading speeds (as much as 30%) when reading from a computer instead of paper&#8221;</p>
<p>why&#8217;s that?</p>
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		<title>By: michael mangus</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241854</link>
		<dc:creator>michael mangus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lexy is right on about how annoying it is to pass computers/usb keys around. for right now i think carrying fewer files + a printer is the best option. its really pretty easy to carry a printer. i have an hp laser that takes up at most half a tub of space. it also would easily fit in w/ my clothes if i took one of my larger pieces of luggage. 

the 'scrolling' issue is not a problem in speeches as much as it is during prep. no file is going to be organized in such a way that you read the same pages in the same order every time. copying/pasting cards out of files is way more time consuming than flipping through and reorganizing a stack of papers. i do everything digitally that i possibly can (i have not physically cut a card in a long time and i flow on my laptop) but its not really practical to roll w/ no paper unless youre the type of team that doesnt need tubs anyway.

of course, theres also a lot of human factors research shows significantly slower reading speeds (as much as 30%) when reading from a computer instead of paper, particularly if the document was not formatted for a computer screen (i.e. the tons of scanned backfiles everyone has)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lexy is right on about how annoying it is to pass computers/usb keys around. for right now i think carrying fewer files + a printer is the best option. its really pretty easy to carry a printer. i have an hp laser that takes up at most half a tub of space. it also would easily fit in w/ my clothes if i took one of my larger pieces of luggage. </p>
<p>the &#8217;scrolling&#8217; issue is not a problem in speeches as much as it is during prep. no file is going to be organized in such a way that you read the same pages in the same order every time. copying/pasting cards out of files is way more time consuming than flipping through and reorganizing a stack of papers. i do everything digitally that i possibly can (i have not physically cut a card in a long time and i flow on my laptop) but its not really practical to roll w/ no paper unless youre the type of team that doesnt need tubs anyway.</p>
<p>of course, theres also a lot of human factors research shows significantly slower reading speeds (as much as 30%) when reading from a computer instead of paper, particularly if the document was not formatted for a computer screen (i.e. the tons of scanned backfiles everyone has)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Cruz</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241818</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241818</guid>
		<description>TSA opened our tubs to look in, and failed to secure them properly. On our flight back from Blake, we watched helplessly as thousands of sheets of paper blew out from the plane after we landed and the baggage claim folks opened up the plane to transport the stored luggage. It's taken months to get the money back we requested -- for photocopying, damaged tubs, etc. -- though Northwest did at least give us travel vouchers for $100/passenger. 

Lexy's probably right about the immediate positive impacts, though I remain convinced that eventually, with the establishment of community norms, digitization will be the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TSA opened our tubs to look in, and failed to secure them properly. On our flight back from Blake, we watched helplessly as thousands of sheets of paper blew out from the plane after we landed and the baggage claim folks opened up the plane to transport the stored luggage. It&#8217;s taken months to get the money back we requested &#8212; for photocopying, damaged tubs, etc. &#8212; though Northwest did at least give us travel vouchers for $100/passenger. </p>
<p>Lexy&#8217;s probably right about the immediate positive impacts, though I remain convinced that eventually, with the establishment of community norms, digitization will be the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: philip angelides</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241802</link>
		<dc:creator>philip angelides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241802</guid>
		<description>i have seen tubs lost and papers spilled and water spilled on some evidence, but none of it was completely devastating.  maybe thats just coming from a school with under 10 policy teams but there is much more of a liability with computer problems than with papers i believe.  it maybe be easier to carry around, but it is also difficult to rely on it for everything.  yeah sure you might have a big heg file on your computer, but to put all your files on your computer can get messy and hard to track (at least the number of files our team has)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have seen tubs lost and papers spilled and water spilled on some evidence, but none of it was completely devastating.  maybe thats just coming from a school with under 10 policy teams but there is much more of a liability with computer problems than with papers i believe.  it maybe be easier to carry around, but it is also difficult to rely on it for everything.  yeah sure you might have a big heg file on your computer, but to put all your files on your computer can get messy and hard to track (at least the number of files our team has)</p>
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		<title>By: nc</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241785</link>
		<dc:creator>nc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241785</guid>
		<description>Shit happens.

There's liability with everything. With tubs, things will inevitably spill (best scenario: novice policy team knocked everything out of their tub, then proceed to spilled water everywhere, and  then decided to spread the evidence across the auditorium floor, air drying each page separately), people will forget them somewhere, or  the airline will lose them in the deep abyss of other hopelessly lost luggages. 

The only genuine flaws about why digitization is bad is that sharing evidence is going to be difficult and the ethical concerns that might arise. Other than that, it's all about "Goddamn it. It's such a hassle to press a button on my computer and scroll down the page."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit happens.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s liability with everything. With tubs, things will inevitably spill (best scenario: novice policy team knocked everything out of their tub, then proceed to spilled water everywhere, and  then decided to spread the evidence across the auditorium floor, air drying each page separately), people will forget them somewhere, or  the airline will lose them in the deep abyss of other hopelessly lost luggages. </p>
<p>The only genuine flaws about why digitization is bad is that sharing evidence is going to be difficult and the ethical concerns that might arise. Other than that, it&#8217;s all about &#8220;Goddamn it. It&#8217;s such a hassle to press a button on my computer and scroll down the page.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: philip angelides</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241756</link>
		<dc:creator>philip angelides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241756</guid>
		<description>yeah i would have to agree, the switch to electronics/digitization is kind of inevitable to some extent.  however, hassin i don't think one needs to scroll down in an irritating way.  for example, on my microsoft word, when i read off of a computer i click a button at the bottom corner that says (full screen reading) and it puts it like book format with two pages for the entire screen and i just click the right key once for the next 2 pages.  its pretty efficient and not at all time consuming.  

the thing about policy tubs full of files is that its much more accessible and reliable. if you rely on your laptop and you lose your laptop, it crashes, etc. before or in round you are screwed.  one thing that happened to me was i was reading off my laptop during a round and  norton antivirus decided to have a random scan, which threw off my speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah i would have to agree, the switch to electronics/digitization is kind of inevitable to some extent.  however, hassin i don&#8217;t think one needs to scroll down in an irritating way.  for example, on my microsoft word, when i read off of a computer i click a button at the bottom corner that says (full screen reading) and it puts it like book format with two pages for the entire screen and i just click the right key once for the next 2 pages.  its pretty efficient and not at all time consuming.  </p>
<p>the thing about policy tubs full of files is that its much more accessible and reliable. if you rely on your laptop and you lose your laptop, it crashes, etc. before or in round you are screwed.  one thing that happened to me was i was reading off my laptop during a round and  norton antivirus decided to have a random scan, which threw off my speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexy</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241746</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241746</guid>
		<description>I think the real roadblock to going mostly digital is the need to share evidence with opponents and judges.  If you don't have hard copy for them, you're going to have to give up your laptop for as long as they need the evidence--especially difficult if you flow in the it.  One might be able to share evidence with USB keys, assuming everyone has a laptop.  Of course then we would need to develop norms regarding teams and judges keeping the digital files post round.   

I expect that what will really happen is that many will pay the extra bag fee, while there will also be pressure to cut tubs.  I know that we plan to try for a three tub limit next year, which should work so long as LD and policy folk travel together.  I hope that the bag limit will have the following positive impacts--

1)Encouraging teams to carry their least frequently used files/backfiles digitally, to be printed only as needed.  Of course this would require each team to carry a printer, which presents another bag limit challenge.

2)Encouraging debaters to write better files.  In most cases, nothing needs to be over 100 pages.  I'm sick of seeing 500 page heg files that are really unedited compilations of various generations of camp files.  These files are practically useless in round, because the crap to quality ratio is so poor.  I think we need to change our perspective as coaches and not praise debaters for generating giant files.  We need to give page limits with our assignments to force our debaters to select only the best evidence.  The attitude should never be that more is better.  The debater should be able to justify the the inclusion of each piece of evidence she puts in the file.

I do anticipate at least one neutral impact--the abandonment of expandos for all but the most important files.  I'm convinced that much of the recent tub proliferation is not a result of teams carrying more files, but a product the files taking up more space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real roadblock to going mostly digital is the need to share evidence with opponents and judges.  If you don&#8217;t have hard copy for them, you&#8217;re going to have to give up your laptop for as long as they need the evidence&#8211;especially difficult if you flow in the it.  One might be able to share evidence with USB keys, assuming everyone has a laptop.  Of course then we would need to develop norms regarding teams and judges keeping the digital files post round.   </p>
<p>I expect that what will really happen is that many will pay the extra bag fee, while there will also be pressure to cut tubs.  I know that we plan to try for a three tub limit next year, which should work so long as LD and policy folk travel together.  I hope that the bag limit will have the following positive impacts&#8211;</p>
<p>1)Encouraging teams to carry their least frequently used files/backfiles digitally, to be printed only as needed.  Of course this would require each team to carry a printer, which presents another bag limit challenge.</p>
<p>2)Encouraging debaters to write better files.  In most cases, nothing needs to be over 100 pages.  I&#8217;m sick of seeing 500 page heg files that are really unedited compilations of various generations of camp files.  These files are practically useless in round, because the crap to quality ratio is so poor.  I think we need to change our perspective as coaches and not praise debaters for generating giant files.  We need to give page limits with our assignments to force our debaters to select only the best evidence.  The attitude should never be that more is better.  The debater should be able to justify the the inclusion of each piece of evidence she puts in the file.</p>
<p>I do anticipate at least one neutral impact&#8211;the abandonment of expandos for all but the most important files.  I&#8217;m convinced that much of the recent tub proliferation is not a result of teams carrying more files, but a product the files taking up more space.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Cruz</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241718</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241718</guid>
		<description>Is that less irritating than razing a small forest to fill four tubs per team?

I mean, we're as guilty of this of this as anyone -- Bronx Science has more than twenty policy teams -- and there are many valid reasons for sticking to paper that I've heard from folks who actively coach policy. But in an age of decreasing costs for laptops, and high costs of mass photocopying, I can't help but wonder if a day of digitization is finally not too far off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that less irritating than razing a small forest to fill four tubs per team?</p>
<p>I mean, we&#8217;re as guilty of this of this as anyone &#8212; Bronx Science has more than twenty policy teams &#8212; and there are many valid reasons for sticking to paper that I&#8217;ve heard from folks who actively coach policy. But in an age of decreasing costs for laptops, and high costs of mass photocopying, I can&#8217;t help but wonder if a day of digitization is finally not too far off.</p>
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		<title>By: hassin</title>
		<link>http://victorybriefsdaily.com/2008/04/23/new-airline-baggage-policies-will-directly-impact-debaters/#comment-241698</link>
		<dc:creator>hassin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>additionally, most files in their entirety won't fit on the computer screen, so you'll have to scroll down as you're reading which is irritating</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>additionally, most files in their entirety won&#8217;t fit on the computer screen, so you&#8217;ll have to scroll down as you&#8217;re reading which is irritating</p>
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