Building an Institutional Memory: Woodward
NEW YORK, N.Y. — Matt Ross proposed a simple question for my next Ask Cruz: “Which Woodward champions, in their novice year, have gone on to win the TOC?”
Ask Cruz returns next week, and while preparing it, I realized that Woodward is one of those stories tournaments that seems to lack a clear record of its story: in other words, there aren’t clear, thorough records of the tournament’s results; indeed, I don’t have a full list of past champions, runners-up, top speakers.
So I’m reaching out to the debate community. Let’s list as many past champions, runners-up, and top speakers in both the novice and second-year divisions — in both LD and policy! — as we can. Help me out. I’ll be doing this with other tournaments, too, by the way.
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Posted from: 165.123.228.148
April 10th, 2008 20:57
I’m pretty sure that during my freshman year (2004 Woodward), the champion in Novice LD was Molly Clark of Valley HS. She beat Miles Brundage in finals, who beat Elyse Lyons in semis. To be honest, I don’t know who the second year champ was, though something tells me it was probably Tim Walsh of Trinity Prep. In policy, the second year champions were Mark Presenti and Jack Ewing of Bishop Guertin.
During my sophomore year, Sumi Sinha of Bishop Guertin beat Steven Whose Last Name I can’t Recall of Lake Highland Prep in the novice division; I beat Caroline Yachan of Lake Mary in the second year division; Isabelle Figaro of Bishop Guertin and Eric Perlman of Spanish River were in semis.
Posted from: 74.68.137.118
April 10th, 2008 21:03
2006 SECOND-YEAR
Champion - Becca Traber (Kinkaid)
Runner-up - Hana Ahmed (Lake Highland)
Top Speaker - Corey Metzman (MBA)
2006 NOVICE
Champion - Alyson Promes (Lake Highland)
Runner-up - Saboor Sheerazi (Bronx Science)
Top Speaker - Alyson Promes (Lake Highland)
2007 SECOND-YEAR
Champion - Rusty Mawn (Vestavia Hills)
Runner-up - Alyson Promes (Lake Highland)
Top Speaker - Matt Dunay (Bronx Science)
2007 NOVICE
Champion - Stephanie Mazursky (Bronx Science)
Runner-up - Nick Bratton (Meadows)
Top Speaker - Nick Bratton (Meadows)
Bronx Science’s Dylan Gorman and David Seidman were in semis last year, but I’m forgetting the policy results from finals of both divisions, and the names of the top speakers.
I believe David Wolfish, John Lewis, and Amanda Liverzani are all past finalists, so maybe they can help, too. And others!
Posted from: 70.141.120.102
April 10th, 2008 21:08
David Wolfish (2nd year) and John Lewis (1st year) won in 2003.
Posted from: 68.220.226.130
April 10th, 2008 21:16
To Jon
Those dates are both off a year, 2006 should be 2007 and 2005 should be 2006
Posted from: 74.68.137.118
April 10th, 2008 21:22
*Soviet-style revisionism*
Posted from: 207.38.220.27
April 10th, 2008 21:47
So, here’s a question, and it’s one I’ve been asking since about 2001: Some people, including the editors of this website, refer to the Woodward tournament as “Novice Nationals,” though they do it inconsistently. They also refer to the champion of this tournament as the “Novice National Champion.” Yet there exists another tournament out there which has, in the past, by some, been called the “Novice National Tournament,” the Great Midwestern Novice Debate Championships held in Iowa City, IA. My question is simple: what qualifies the champion of one tournament or the other to call themselves the “National Champion,” as people commonly do? Both tournaments have been won by LDers that have gone on to do great things in the activity. Both tournaments have gotten pools that could only be called “national” in their recent history. Not to diminish the accomplishments of debaters who have been involved with either tournament at any point in history, nor to question the judgment of the debaters and coaches who call these people “national champions” but what gives?
My proposal is to have the champion of both tournaments fight in a cage match. If the same debater wins both tournament, I’d propose that debater fight him/herself.
Posted from: 68.209.198.15
April 10th, 2008 21:54
fair enough. at nsd, larry liu vs. reid brown cage match it is.
Posted from: 70.56.14.98
April 10th, 2008 22:05
i’m ref
Posted from: 70.150.82.67
April 11th, 2008 22:04
Here’s LD Results I know:
JV Finals 2003
Greenhill DW defeats Meadows DL
JV Finals 2002
Sandalwood PE (Paulo Estrado) over Iowa City West KR
Novice Finals 2003
Memorial JW defeats Bishop Guertin AS
Novice Finals 2002
Cary Academy over Vestavia EY
Posted from: 70.150.82.67
April 11th, 2008 22:04
Here’s the policy results I know:
2008 SECOND YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Bronx Science MB (Andrew Markoff & Regan Bozman)
Runner Up – Chattahoochee LR (Kaavya Ramesh & Joshua Lee)
2007 SECOND YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Westminster JS (Rajesh Jegadeesh & Anshu Sathian)
Runner Up – Bishop Guertin CP (Katryna Cadle & Chris Power)
Top Speaker – Chris Power, Bishop Guertin
2006 SECOND YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Burlington JS (Evan Johnson & Matt Senghas)
Runner Up – Glenbrook South LP (Winston Luo & Grant Peretz)
2005 SECOND YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Westminster WA (Stephen Weil & Priyanka Anand)
Runner Up – Jesuit OS (Mark Offenbach & Ryan Stevens)
2004 SECOND YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Bishop Guertin EP (Jack Ewing & Mark Presenti)
Runner Up – Brookfield Central TY (Alex Twinem & Ann Yuan)
2003 SECOND YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Milton MC (Todd Mitchell & C)
Runner Up – Brookfield Central BB (Zach Brown & Amit Bindra)
2002 SECOND YEAR DIVISION
Champion - Colleyville LM (Jonathan Lewis and Jason Murray)
Runner Up - CR Washington BM (Cara Bader and Daniel McNeme)
1998 SECOND YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Albuquerque BB (Brown/Blackman)
Runner Up – Caddo GA (Ghali/Asher)
2008 FIRST YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Chattahoochee IW (Mustafa Inamullah & Kaitlyn Walker)
Runner Up – Glenbrook South CH (Jonathan Choi & Phillip Han)
2007 FIRST YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Chattahoochee CC (Alexandra Cruz & Megan Cambre)
Runner Up – Westminster GT (Angela Guo & Daniel Taylor)
2006 FIRST YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Glenbrook South QZ (Colin Quinn & Alec Zimmer)
Runner Up – Pace Academy AL (Jennifer Armstrong & Peyton Lee)
2005 FIRST YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Greenhill HP (Bryant Huang & Nick Petrocchi)
Runner Up – Burlington JS (Evan Johnson & Matt Senghas)
2004 FIRST YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Highland Park AD (Matt Andrews & D)
Runner Up – Chattahoochee AS (Garret Abelkop & S)
2003 FIRST YEAR DIVISION
Co Champions:
Chattahoochee KN (Utsav Kaushish & George Ni)
Chattahoochee PN (Scott Phillips & Hayley Nelson)
Chattahoochee DM (Rajat Dhir & M)
Chattahoochee WZ (Sherry Wang & Claire Zhang)
1998 FIRST YEAR DIVISION
Co Champions:
MBA LR (Lewis/Rosenblatt)
MBA JF (Johnson/Franklin)
Posted from: 128.135.229.232
April 12th, 2008 10:31
As a somewhat related question Cruise, I’d love to hear stories of folks who started really late in their careers and still managed to achieve a high amount of success.
Posted from: 66.65.110.61
April 13th, 2008 09:57
Awesome! Thanks, Jeffrey, and to all else who posted. Keep the results coming!
(Cruise?)
Posted from: 69.118.235.253
April 15th, 2008 17:26
anon:
Last year 3/4 TOC semifinalists started their careers pretty late. Matt Aks began debate as a sophomore, Patrick Diehl switched from policy to ld in either his sophomore or junior year (I know he went JV at Glenbrooks his junior year), and I think that David McGough did something similar.
There are probably other cases that I’m neglecting, these just seem to be the most recent.
Posted from: 66.27.90.134
April 15th, 2008 20:31
Didnt John McKay start really late as well? and he ended up semi-ing at the TOC
Posted from: 24.6.177.101
April 15th, 2008 20:54
McKay debated all four years.
Posted from: 69.118.235.253
April 15th, 2008 22:07
I should also add Eric Palmer who reached quarters of TOC after only 2 years of debate experience and won some other shit.
Posted from: 76.167.241.95
April 15th, 2008 22:09
what does semi-ing mean?
Posted from: 71.236.67.195
April 15th, 2008 23:37
zero derivation is one of the best types of word formation. get with the morphosyntactic program bietz.
Posted from: 74.70.112.133
April 16th, 2008 13:20
Mangus, can you explain that concept a bit more. I thought a zero derivation had to be the same as the word like (turn as a noun and as a verb). So wouldn’t semi-ing not be a zero derivation? (I have no real background in linguistics but I like the field and perhaps will major in it).
Thanks!
Posted from: 71.236.67.195
April 16th, 2008 14:34
zero derivation, at least in my experience, just refers to converting a lexical item to a new lexical class. in this case, an inflectional affix has been applied to the new verb form (semi + ing) but the existence of that verb in the lexicon indicates that zero derivation has taken place. if -ing was a derivational, rather than inflectional, affix you would have a point (that would be an example of derivation and not word formation). as far as i know, ’semi-ing,’ ’semi-ed,’ etc are all just inflected forms of the same lexeme, semi (v), derived by zero-formation (or “conversion”) from semi (n).
Posted from: 71.236.67.195
April 16th, 2008 14:39
er, that last line should be ‘zero-derivation’ not ‘zero-formation’
Posted from: 71.59.24.230
May 27th, 2008 05:38
“2004 FIRST YEAR DIVISION
Champion – Highland Park AD (Matt Andrews & D)
Runner Up – Chattahoochee AS (Garret Abelkop & S)”
Garret was a frosh on the 2001-02 WMD topic and got walked over in the semis of woodward (he debated with John Warden)