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Bronx Science Closes Out Second-Year Nationals; Larry Liu is Novice National Champion

Bronx Science Wins Second-Year Policy Tournament
posted by Jon Cruz on April 6th, 2008

ATLANTA, Ga. — The Woodward Academy’s Second-Year and Novice National Championships — perhaps the nation’s foremost forum for younger competition — came to a close Sunday afternoon.

The second-year Lincoln-Douglas debate tournament concluded with a close-out in the final round by two debaters from the Bronx High School of Science: Adam Silver and Bobby Esnard, who shared the title after battling through a very competitive field. Things played out differently in the novice division, which featured a phenomenal final round between Oak Mountain High School’s Larry Liu and the Meadows School’s Jordan LaMothe. On a 3-0 decision, Larry defeated Jordan to claim the title. Congratulations to all four debaters!

Adam and Bobby are coached by Jon Cruz, Douglas Jeffers, and Taarini Vohra. Larry is coached by Joan Huey; Jordan is coached by Dan Meyers.

LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATE

(11) Bronx Science EL (Emilija Landsbergis)

SECOND-YEAR PARTIAL OCTAS
(1) Bronx Science AS advances without debating
(2) Altamont SA advances without debating
(3) Bronx Science BE advances without debating
(4) Vestavia Hills KS advances without debating
(5) Bronx Science EM advances without debating
(6) Northland Christian MD advances without debating
(7) Mountain Brook CB def. (10) Bronx Science AK (Arielle Kellman)
3-0 (Aaron Timmons, Kevin Roberts, Sam Duby)
(8) Harvard-Westlake SN def. (9) Pine Crest SG (Sharla Grass)
(Matt Wilson, Dan Meyers, Chris Castillo)

SECOND-YEAR QUARTERS
(1) Bronx Science AS def. (8) Harvard-Westlake SN (Sean Nadel)
3-0 (Jeff Roberts, Becca Traber, Sam Duby)
(2) Altamont SA def. (7) Mountain Brook CB (Carter Beilen)
3-0 (Jon Cruz, Hannah Rothman, Brandon Sheats)
(3) Bronx Science BE def. (6) Northland Christian MD (Molly Dunn)
2-1 (*Aaron Timmons, Jason Sun, Mike Bietz)
(4) Vestavia Hills KS def. (5) Bronx Science EM (Ellie Merle)
3-0 (Dan Meyers, Rob Zambito, Chris Castillo)

SECOND-YEAR SEMIS
(1) Bronx Science AS is forfeited to by (4) Vestavia Hills KS (Kevin Sipe)
Forfeit (Aaron Timmons, Sheryl Kaczmarek, Chris Castillo)
(3) Bronx Science BE def. (2) Altamont SA (Sasha Arijanto)
2-1 (Dan Meyers, Jeff Roberts, *Sam Duby)

SECOND-YEAR FINALS
(1) Bronx Science AS and (3) Bronx Science BE close out.

SECOND-YEAR NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
(1) Bronx Science AS (Adam Silver)
(3) Bronx Science BE (Bobby Esnard)


TOP SECOND-YEAR SPEAKERS
1. Sasha Arijanto — The Altamont School (AL)
2. Emilija Landsbergis — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
3. Adam Silver — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
4. Carter Beilen — Mountain Brook High School (AL)
5. Bobby Esnard — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
6. Sean Nadel — Harvard-Westlake High School (CA)
7. Kevin Sipe — Vestavia Hills High School (AL)
8. Sharla Grass — Pine Crest School (FL)
9. Ellie Merle — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
10. Molly Dunn — Northland Christian School (TX)


(17) Newburgh Free PW (Phoebe Wolfe)

NOVICE OCTAS
(1) Meadows JL def. (16) Lake Highland MS (Martin Sigalow)
3-0 (Hannah Rothman, Phil Angiledes, Kristina Gunnarsdottir)
(2) Northland Christian JR def. (15) Harvard-Westlake JSo (Jack Sonnenberg)
3-0 (Tye Tavaras, Adam Silver, Matt Dunay)
(3) Oak Mountain LL def. (14) Lexington AE (Ari Eriksson)
3-0 (Gurdane Bhutani, Ariana Guzman, Brandon Sheats)
(13) Harvard-Westlake JSp def. (4) Meadows NS (Nate Socolof)
3-0 (Alex Zhang, Lisa Ha, Hana Ahmed)
(5) Bronx Science CC def. (12) Kinkaid RN (Ruchit Nagar)
2-1 (Mike Bietz, Jeffrey Miller, *Rob Zambito)
(6) Berkeley Carroll DS def. (11) Newburgh Free VY (Vid Yogeswaran)
3-0 (Wade Houston, Jonathan Ma, Rusty Mawn)
(7) Bronx Science MR def. (10) Greenhill AG (Apryl Giraudon)
2-1 (Becca Traber, Jason Sun, *Sheryl Kaczmarek)
(8) Oak Mountain JL def. (9) Bronx Science ES (Emanuel Schorsch)
3-0 (Jeff Roberts, Ben Weiss, Courtney Nunley)

NOVICE QUARTERS
(1) Meadows JL def. (8) Oak Mountain JL (Jeff Liu)
3-0 (Matt Dunay, Ariana Guzman, Sheryl Kaczmarek)
(2) Northland Christian JR def. (7) Bronx Science MR (Matt Ross)
2-1 (Ben Weiss, Hana Ahmed, Gurdane Bhutani)
(3) Oak Mountain LL def. (6) Berkeley Carroll DS (Dylan Scher)
3-0 (Alex Zhang, Jonathan Ma, Tye Tavaras)
(13) Harvard-Westlake JSp def. (5) Bronx Science CC (Carolyn Clendenin)
2-1 (Rusty Mawn, Wade Houston, *Courtney Nunley)

NOVICE SEMIS
(1) Meadows JL def. (13) Harvard-Westlake JSp (Jeffrey Sperling)
3-0 (Alex Zhang, Wade Houston, Courtney Nunley)
(3) Oak Mountain LL def. (2) Northland Christian JR (Josh Roberts)
2-1 (Becca Traber, Matt Dunay, Brandon Sheats)

FINALS
(3) Oak Mountain LL def. (1) Meadows JL (Jordan LaMothe)
3-0 (Brandon Sheats, Alex Zhang, Courtney Nunley)

NOVICE NATIONAL CHAMPION
(3) Oak Mountain LL (Larry Liu)


TOP NOVICE SPEAKERS
1. Jordan LaMothe — The Meadows School (NV)
2. Carolyn Clendenin — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
3. Josh Roberts — Northland Christian School (TX)
4. Dylan Scher — Berkeley Carroll School (NY)
5. Larry Liu — Oak Mountain High School (AL)
6. Matt Ross — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
7. Phoebe Wolfe — Newburgh Free Academy (NY)
8. Jeff Liu — Oak Mountain High School (AL)
9. Emanuel Schorsch — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
10. William Parker — Vestavia Hills High School (AL)

SECOND-YEAR PRELIMS
Round 1
Round 2
Round 3
Round 4
Round 5
Round 6

NOVICE PRELIMS
Round 1
Round 2
Round 3
Round 4
Round 5
Round 6

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73 Responses to “Bronx Science Closes Out Second-Year Nationals; Larry Liu is Novice National Champion”

  1. VBD Weekend Coverage: Apr. 4-6, 2008 | VBD: High School Debate, Lincoln-Douglas, Policy, Public Forum
    Posted from: 206.251.74.247

    April 4th, 2008 00:04
    1

    […] ChampionPick the Issues for the NDCA Town HallNortheast Championships Registration Closes TodayLive from Second-Year & Novice NationalsVBD Weekend Coverage: Apr. 4-6, 2008 Editor-in-Chief: Mike Bietz Managing […]

  2. Aaron Timmons
    Posted from: 12.43.42.132

    April 4th, 2008 10:14
    2

    What are some of the issues folks would like to talk about at the Town Hall Forum? Bietz and I don’t see this session as a lecture, but a larger discussion of issues in the LD community. I would like some time to discuss the proliferation of “theory” in contemporary LD. “Prestandard” arguments, counterplans, “you gotta have a plan”, etc… as an example if folks see those issues as important.

    If there is an interest in particular topics, post it here and we can lead the discussion in that direction.

  3. Jon Cruz
    Posted from: 216.235.148.194

    April 4th, 2008 14:47
    3

    I would just like to say that Jon Crews from Northland Christian has a very cool name.

  4. ?
    Posted from: 12.43.42.2

    April 4th, 2008 19:34
    4

    Mr. Timmons, I believe Sam Duby has a very legitimate point about pre-pre-standards

  5. ?
    Posted from: 12.43.42.2

    April 4th, 2008 19:36
    5

    Also for Northland, in novice
    Josh Roberts is 2-0

    JV
    Molly Dunn 1-1
    Jonathan Crews 0-2
    James Cossey at least 1-0 not sure about round 2

  6. DMeyers
    Posted from: 12.43.42.162

    April 4th, 2008 20:20
    6

    First-Year LD

    Meadows JL 2-0
    Meadows NS 2-0
    Meadows AN 1-1

  7. ALJ (AG) {Alex}
    Posted from: 69.115.18.52

    April 5th, 2008 06:19
    7

    hey just wishing Big Bronx good luck representing the northeast
    *also good luck to Adam Silver!

    =D

    btw in reference to Jon Cruz i never knew it could be spelled like Crews; learn something new everyday

  8. David McGinnis
    Posted from: 12.216.167.34

    April 5th, 2008 06:52
    8

    Good luck to Sharla, Emmanuelle, and Andrew.

  9. Jeffrey Miller
    Posted from: 216.235.148.194

    April 5th, 2008 07:16
    9

    Novice LD:
    Meadows AN 1-2 [just dropped to NFA VY]

  10. Jeffrey Miller
    Posted from: 216.235.148.194

    April 5th, 2008 08:00
    10

    Rd 3 Novice LD:
    Lake Highland MS d. Harvard Westlake NF

  11. Adam Silver
    Posted from: 216.235.148.194

    April 5th, 2008 09:50
    11

    Bronx Records
    1st year
    Carolyn is 1-2 going into round 4
    Rupert is 2-2
    Emanuel and Matt Ross are 4-0

    2nd year
    Bobby and I are 4-0
    Josh is 3-1
    Ellie is 3-0 and Emilija is 2-1 going into round 4

  12. David McGinnis
    Posted from: 12.216.167.34

    April 5th, 2008 11:51
    12

    “Jon Crews” is a cool name, but I find it hilarious that there’s a freshman named “Matt Ross.”

  13. Jeffrey Miller
    Posted from: 216.235.148.194

    April 5th, 2008 11:55
    13

    Bronx EL is 3-1 after Rd 4.

  14. Jeffrey Miller
    Posted from: 216.235.148.194

    April 5th, 2008 12:35
    14

    JV rd 5
    Bronx AH d. Pine Crest EG

  15. Jon Cruz
    Posted from: 216.235.148.194

    April 5th, 2008 12:42
    15

    I think you mean Bronx Science AK. :o)

  16. Jeffrey Miller
    Posted from: 216.235.148.194

    April 5th, 2008 12:45
    16

    yeah. thats it.

  17. DMeyers
    Posted from: 216.235.148.194

    April 5th, 2008 14:36
    17

    Meadows JL 5-0
    Meadows NS 5-0
    Meadows AN 1-4

  18. DMeyers
    Posted from: 216.235.148.194

    April 5th, 2008 15:31
    18

    Meadows JL 6-0
    Meadows NS 6-0

  19. catterton
    Posted from: 69.12.136.2

    April 5th, 2008 15:53
    19

    good job meadows! keep it up.

  20. spirtos
    Posted from: 128.135.208.187

    April 5th, 2008 17:08
    20

    props to the young meadows boys

  21. Meadows JG
    Posted from: 68.108.104.144

    April 5th, 2008 18:21
    21

    Great Job, Jordan and Nate!

  22. Meadows JG
    Posted from: 68.108.104.144

    April 5th, 2008 18:23
    22

    PS:

    Good luck/job Sharla! I told you you would do just fine.

  23. Ryan Lester
    Posted from: 98.194.2.241

    April 5th, 2008 18:27
    23

    Go Josh Roberts, Molly Dunn, and Sasha Arijanto!

  24. Vineet
    Posted from: 71.247.62.231

    April 5th, 2008 19:35
    24

    Congratulations to all who cleared/advanced from Bronx Science! We have closeout potential in both divisions…take advantage.

  25. Josh Roberts
    Posted from: 12.43.42.117

    April 5th, 2008 19:45
    25

    Josh Roberts picks up against Harvard Westlake on a 3-0

    Oak Mountain JL picks up 3-0
    Oak Mountain LL picks up 3-0

  26. Matt Wilson
    Posted from: 170.140.80.138

    April 5th, 2008 20:02
    26

    The round I judged w/ DMeyers and Castillo was a 3-0.

  27. Matt
    Posted from: 24.164.191.184

    April 5th, 2008 21:19
    27

    Congrats Matt, Dylan, Vid, Adam, Bobby, Arielle, and Ellie.

  28. Ament
    Posted from: 71.106.15.91

    April 6th, 2008 00:16
    28

    Congrats Sean! Let’s go Hdub.

  29. DMeyers
    Posted from: 12.43.42.157

    April 6th, 2008 07:04
    29

    Vestavia KS def Bronx EM
    (Meyers, Castillo, Zambito)

  30. Josh
    Posted from: 12.43.42.95

    April 6th, 2008 07:22
    30

    (3) Northland Christian JR def. (7) Bronx Science MR (Matt Ross)
    (2-1) (Budane, *Weiss, idk the other judge)

  31. DMeyers
    Posted from: 12.43.43.120

    April 6th, 2008 07:28
    31

    Harvard-Westlake JSp def Bronx CC
    Oak Mountain LL def Berkley Carrol DS

  32. DMeyers
    Posted from: 12.43.43.120

    April 6th, 2008 07:29
    32

    Meadows JL def Oak Mountain JL

  33. Josh
    Posted from: 12.43.42.95

    April 6th, 2008 07:36
    33

    (1) Bronx AS def. Harvard Westlake SN (Sean Nadel)

  34. Josh
    Posted from: 12.43.42.95

    April 6th, 2008 08:05
    34

    Bronx Science BE def. Northland Christian MD

    Vestavia Hills KS def. Bronx Science EM

  35. Josh
    Posted from: 12.43.42.95

    April 6th, 2008 08:06
    35

    Semis is:

    Bronx Science AS vs. Vestavia Hills KS

    Bronx Science BE vs. Altamont SA

    GO BRONX.

  36. abhi
    Posted from: 208.120.131.60

    April 6th, 2008 08:08
    36

    congrats 2 carolyn, matt, nd EMANUEL yay go emanuel…u guyz did a great job !

    also,,,GOOO ADAM!!!!
    duz any1 know wuts going on w/ vestavia-bxsci
    nd northland-bxsci? also gratz 2 arielle.

  37. abhi
    Posted from: 208.120.131.60

    April 6th, 2008 08:10
    37

    nvm, should read posts more thorougly, in that case…good luck bobby nd congrats to ellie

  38. ely
    Posted from: 69.119.93.209

    April 6th, 2008 09:04
    38

    congrats to ellie, bobby, adam and arielle!

    and emilija for almost breaking. lol phail.
    jk.

    congrats to emmanuel (i guess), carolyn and matt ross.

    i’m so happy for you guys it’s not even funny

  39. abhi
    Posted from: 208.120.131.60

    April 6th, 2008 09:47
    39

    ney1 know how bobby’s round w/ sasha went?

  40. Josh
    Posted from: 12.43.42.95

    April 6th, 2008 10:05
    40

    BRONX CLOSED OUT.

    ADAM SILVER AND BOBBY ESNARD CLOSE OUT THE FINAL ROUND OF SECOND YEAR.

    Bobby def. Altamont SA
    Vestavia KS forf. to Adam

    —-> Bronx Heg

  41. Josh
    Posted from: 12.43.42.95

    April 6th, 2008 10:09
    41

    In the above comment, i meant that Adam won; vestavia KS had to leave.

  42. Seth
    Posted from: 24.215.130.4

    April 6th, 2008 10:20
    42

    bronx heg

    congratz to Adam and Bobby on beasting, as well as to Ellie, Arielle, Emilija, Carolyn, Matt, Emanuel, Dylan, and Sasha.

  43. abhi
    Posted from: 208.120.131.60

    April 6th, 2008 10:26
    43

    OH YEAH BX HEG!!!!!!! niiiiiccee

    a big congratz 2 bobby nd adam!!!!!!!
    YEAH CLOSE OUTTTTTT

  44. DMeyers
    Posted from: 12.43.43.120

    April 6th, 2008 10:30
    44

    Novice Finals

    Meadows JL v Oak Mountain LL
    (Zhang, Nunley, Sheets)

  45. john lewis
    Posted from: 70.116.31.157

    April 6th, 2008 10:30
    45

    ADAM SILVER

  46. nc
    Posted from: 68.173.223.220

    April 6th, 2008 11:55
    46

    Congrats to ADAM SILVER AND BOBBY ESTARD.

    Also to Carolyn, Dylan, Ellie, and Matt Ross for quarters.

    Arielle and Emanuel for Octas.

    More kudos to Adam, Bobby, Carolyn, Dylan, Ellie, Emanuel, Emilija, and Matt Ross for the speaker awards.

  47. spirtos
    Posted from: 128.135.208.187

    April 6th, 2008 12:35
    47

    who won finals

  48. Pam
    Posted from: 128.36.80.48

    April 6th, 2008 14:03
    48

    congrats sharla!

  49. wade
    Posted from: 68.209.198.15

    April 6th, 2008 14:48
    49

    semis:
    (1) Meadows JL def. (13) Harvard-Westlake JSp
    3-0 (Alex Zhang, Wade Houston, Courtney Nunley)
    (3) Oak Mountain LL def. (2) Northland Christian JR (Josh Roberts)
    2-1 (Becca Traber, Ariana Guzman, *Matt Dunay)

    finals:
    (3) Oak Mountain LL def. (1) Meadows JL (Justin Lamothe)
    3-0 (Courtney Nunley, Alex Zhang, Brandon Sheats)

    congrats to larry for winning this shit, jeff for quarters, and jordan for a fantastic performance when i judged him in semis.

    this was a great tournament. emphasis on the food.

  50. Karlyn
    Posted from: 69.253.230.13

    April 6th, 2008 14:56
    50

    CONGRATS to arielle for breaking and adam and bobby for closing out

  51. JSun
    Posted from: 66.32.3.20

    April 6th, 2008 15:08
    51

    congrats to the lius, sasha, and bobby and adam who were great when i judged them.

  52. JSun
    Posted from: 66.32.3.20

    April 6th, 2008 15:27
    52

    AND OF COURSE
    congrats the KEVIN SIPE, the great white hope, who was forced to forfeit thanks to our coaches who apparently dont like to win and think they have too much of a life to stay for some more rounds.

  53. Rusty
    Posted from: 216.83.253.42

    April 6th, 2008 16:53
    53

    Huge congrats to the twins for owning the novice division, to Adam and Bobby on their closeout, and to Sasha for a great performance.

    Also major congrats and condolences to Kevin Sipe who had a legitimate shot at winning this thing but our coach doesn’t like debate so much that the extra two hours to finish the tournament were just too much for him to handle.

    On a side note: Jordan LaMothe is the most talented novice I have ever seen. Expect this kid to be at TOC next year.

  54. Dustin Lee
    Posted from: 70.18.10.116

    April 6th, 2008 17:45
    54

    Congratulations to the bronx science squad.

  55. Josh Roberts
    Posted from: 76.192.170.113

    April 6th, 2008 17:52
    55

    Congrats Larry for the most money NR of the tourney, additionally sweet semi’s round

  56. Sasha
    Posted from: 71.91.1.67

    April 6th, 2008 20:30
    56

    Congrats to Bobnard and Adam Silver and the Bronx team

    Good job to Kevin Sipes for the nice performance despite an un-supportive coach.

    Also, nice job Wade for the work on the wondertwins

  57. Katie
    Posted from: 71.227.255.139

    April 6th, 2008 20:38
    57

    Great job, Kevin! way to rep the lab!

  58. Amy Smith
    Posted from: 207.200.116.74

    April 6th, 2008 20:46
    58

    Major congrats, Kevin!

  59. varun
    Posted from: 69.115.223.185

    April 6th, 2008 21:23
    59

    congrats adam and bobby. also props to arielle!

  60. Josh Roberts
    Posted from: 76.192.170.113

    April 6th, 2008 21:31
    60

    Congratulations Molly Dunn on an incredible quarters round/ tournament!

  61. Alex Zhang
    Posted from: 66.56.33.211

    April 6th, 2008 21:33
    61

    props to the liu twins and wade for coaching them. i was very impressed
    also props to dmeyers for his uncanny ability to produce kickass novices, +1 to rusty, jordan is amazing

  62. Josh Roberts
    Posted from: 76.192.170.113

    April 6th, 2008 21:36
    62

    props to alex zhang, greatest 6th round judge ever haha
    and to jeff and larry

  63. Ruchit
    Posted from: 98.197.201.79

    April 6th, 2008 22:28
    63

    Haha i dropped to Larry in 3rd round - was kind of messy legit but anyways good job on winning the whole thing. I would also like to congratulate all those other good people and myself for breaking :)

  64. Sean Nadel
    Posted from: 76.175.197.13

    April 6th, 2008 23:08
    64

    Congrats to Jeff Sperling, great job!!

  65. Ben
    Posted from: 64.72.67.162

    April 7th, 2008 05:47
    65

    Congrats Vid you worked hard for this and you deserve it. Also, props to Pheobe for 7th speaker.

  66. Vid
    Posted from: 71.169.6.197

    April 7th, 2008 06:52
    66

    Congrats to Bobby for Owning the Jvers.
    Congrats to Arielle for breaking, and Phoebe for her speaker award.

  67. Dylan Scher
    Posted from: 68.173.160.15

    April 8th, 2008 14:41
    67

    Props to the whole bronx science team and Josh and Larry.

    Anybody know where I can find a results packet?

  68. Sam Duby
    Posted from: 67.155.35.66

    April 8th, 2008 15:23
    68

    I’d just like to thank Woodward and Jon Cruz for running a fabulous tournament. I think this tournament allowed 1st and 2nd year debaters a wonderful forum for showcasing their ability as well as giving them the oppurtunity to receive a competitive experience usually only reserved for the nation’s top seniors and juniors.

    -Sam Duby

  69. Matt Ross
    Posted from: 66.108.131.237

    April 8th, 2008 16:26
    69

    congrats to Bobby and Adam!!!, of course.
    also, congrats to carolyn, ellie, dylan, and emanuel. and to josh roberts and jordan lamothe; our rounds easily the two best rounds at the tourney (that i had). great tournament, and i plan on attending next year

  70. Matt Ross
    Posted from: 66.108.131.237

    April 8th, 2008 16:28
    70

    oh and the squirrel in my quar round was ben weiss.

  71. Bobby
    Posted from: 71.190.114.81

    April 9th, 2008 16:58
    71

    Congrats Vid

  72. Matt Ross
    Posted from: 66.108.131.237

    April 14th, 2008 18:25
    72

    cruz is in adam’s trophy =)

  73. ak
    Posted from: 167.206.203.14

    April 15th, 2008 07:09
    73

    hahaha matt ross

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