Ben Holguin Wins the MinneApple
Todd Liipfert and Ben Holguin
APPLE VALLEY, Minn. — After two days of intense, efficient, single-flighted competition — in which over one hundred and fifty competitors debated seven preliminary rounds prior to the double-octafinal round — two debaters emerged victorious to face in the final round of the twenty-second annual MinneApple at Apple Valley High School. Edina High School’s Ben Holguin’s faced off against Strake Jesuit College Preparatory School’s Todd Liipfert in front of a panel of Tim Hogan, Michael Arton, Anjan Choudhury, Joe Vaughan, and Chetan Hertzig. The panel unanimously voted for Ben. Congratulations to both debaters! (Coaching credits follow with extended results.)
Ben is coached by Jessica Bailey and Jake Gelfand. Todd is coached by Jerry Crist and Gary Johnson.
DOUBLES
Sacred Heart SZ def. Blake JS (John Scoggin)
(Elyse Lyons, Jane Boyd, Jonathan Alston)
Strake Jesuit College TL def. Meadows AS (Amanda Signorelli)
(Elyse Lyons, Jane Boyd, Jonathan Alston)
Walt Whitman EM def. Scarsdale KH (Ken Hershey)
(Prashant Rai, Andy Charrier, Brian Severson)
Eastview AR def. Hopkins KA (Kristen Allison)
(Paul Schiano, Jason Fernandez, Sam Duby)
Ridge AT def. Crowley GG (Grant Grosgebauer)
(Tom Evnen, Christian Tarsney, Rick Brundage)
Walt Whitman EN def. Ridge SC (Stephanie Caravias)
(Tom Evnen, Christian Tarsney, Rick Brundage)
St. Louis Park Park CT def. Scarsdale DD (Daniel Daks)
(Gary Johnson, Anjan Choudhury, Neil Conrad)
Scarsdale MM def. Hopkins CD (Conor Doherty)
2-1 (Gary Johnson, Anjan Choudhury, Neil Conrad)
Valley MA def. Lakeville North TC (Tom Caruso)
3-0 (Ranjeet Sidhu, Stephen Hess, Mike Spirtos)
Strake Jesuit DD def. Upper St. Clair JG (J.P. Gooderham)
(Ranjeet Sidhu, Stephen Hess, Mike Spirtos)
Strake Jesuit PT def. Scarsdale MH (Matt Hershey)
(Adam Nelson, Greg Nance, Aaron Timmons)
Collegiate MW def. Meadows NB (Nick Bratton)
(Adam Nelson, Greg Nance, Aaron Timmons)
Edina BH def. Analy CC (Chris Catterton)
(Sean Mumper, Patrick Diehl, Loren Eastlund)
Lakeville South CK def. Hockaday KF (Kathleen French)
(Liz Scoggin, Patrick Diehl, Jake Gelfand)
Edina DM def. Mountain View JM (Jeff Merrill)
3-0 (Larry McGrath, Dan Meyers, Chris Castillo)
Oak Mountain WH def. Newtown AA (Akshay Agashe)
(Larry McGrath, Jon Kwan, Chris Castillo)
OCTAS
Edina BH def. Eastview AR (Akshar Rambachan)
Ridge AT def. Collegiate MW (Marc Wallach)
Oak Mountain WH def. Sacred Heart SZ (Shadman Zaman)
Valley MA def. Scarsdale MM (Marcus Moretti)
Strake Jesuit DD def. St. Louis Park CT (Catherine Tarsney)
Strake Jesuit TL def. Edina DM (David McNeil)
Lakeville South CK def. Walt Whitman EM (Emily Massey)
Walt Whitman EN def. Strake Jesuit PT (Paul Tyger)
QUARTERS
Edina BH def. Strake Jesuit DD (David Donatti)
2-1 (*Jo Russel, Neil Conrad, Michael Arton)
Oak Mountain WH def. Walt Ehitman EN (Ellen Noble)
2-1 (Aaron Timmons, Paul Schiano, *Sam Duby)
Strake Jesuit TL over Ridge AT (Alan Tong)
Forfeit
Valley MA def. Lakeville South CK (Christian Keil)
3-0 (Anjan Choudhury, Joe Vaughan, Jason Fernandez)
SEMIS
Edina BH def. Oak Mountain WH (Wade Houston)
3-0 (Tim Hogan, Prashant Rai, Michael Arton)
Strake Jesuit TL def. Valley MA (Maeshal Abid)
2-1 (Sam Duby, Larry McGrath, *Jason Fernandez)
FINALS
Edina BH def. Strake Jesuit TL (Todd Liipfert)
5-0 (Tim Hogan, Michael Arton, Anjan Choudhury, Joe Vaughan, Chetan Hertzig)
CHAMPION
Edina BH (Ben Holguin)
—
TOP SPEAKERS
1. Shadman Zaman — Sacred Heart High School (MA)
2. Danielle Smogard — Greenhill School (TX)
3. Alan Tong — Ridge High School (NJ)
4. David McNeil — Edina High School (MN)
5. Stephanie Caravias — Ridge High School (NJ)
6. Todd Liipfert — Strake Jesuit College Preparatory School (TX)
7. Ken Hershey — Scarsdale High School (NY)
8. Akshay Agashe — Newtown High School (CT)
9. Maeshal Abid — Valley High School (IA)
10. David Donatti — Strake Jesuit College Preparatory School (TX)
—
PRELIMS
Varsity Round 1
Varsity Round 2
Varsity Round 3
Varsity Round 4
Varsity Round 5
Varsity Round 6
Round 7
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GO ELLEN JP AND STEPH!!!!!
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November 2nd, 2007 10:43
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November 2nd, 2007 16:55
good luck om and yichao
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November 2nd, 2007 17:20
you girl and bring an apple home
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November 2nd, 2007 17:21
bx
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November 2nd, 2007 17:21
bring an apple home
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November 2nd, 2007 18:32
Good luck Om, Yichao, and Jared!
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November 2nd, 2007 20:36
Records I happen to know:
SLP CT: 4-0
SLP MS: 3-1
Scarsdale KH: 4-0
Brentwood JL: 3-1
Edina DM: 3-1
Edina BH: 3-1
Analy CC: 2-2
Blake JS: 2-2
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November 2nd, 2007 20:47
JP Gooderham is 4-0
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November 2nd, 2007 20:49
heads up: Round 4 says “round 3″ and the link doesnt work.
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November 2nd, 2007 20:51
Edina JG: 3-1
Edina JM: 2-2
Edina AJ: 2-2
Posted from: 66.108.94.165
November 2nd, 2007 21:10
Bronx Science ST - 4-0
Bronx Science VS - 3-1
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November 2nd, 2007 21:14
Kiwi — should work now. Thanks for the heads up.
Posted from: 74.36.128.120
November 2nd, 2007 22:07
valley mk: 3-1
valley rb: 2-2
valley al: 2-2
valley ma: 3-1
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November 2nd, 2007 22:38
From Hopkins
RM: 2-2
EM: 2-2
GS: 2-2
CD: 3-1
KA: 3-1
Posted from: 71.60.209.85
November 3rd, 2007 07:24
Upper St. Clair, JP Gooderham is 5-0
Superman Rules!
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November 3rd, 2007 07:54
GO JP! I heard you are 5 - 0 nice job, now bring home an apple to the keystone man!
Posted from: 69.253.230.13
November 3rd, 2007 08:23
keep it up JP. go big or go home!!!
Posted from: 98.199.6.12
November 3rd, 2007 09:26
does anyone know how Carnegie Vangaurd RV, Altamont SA, and Strake Jesuit are doing?
Posted from: 76.224.125.103
November 3rd, 2007 09:57
Go Gooderham!
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November 3rd, 2007 10:24
monta vista oa: 3-2
monat vista yh: 2-3
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November 3rd, 2007 10:25
mini-apps like new topic?
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November 3rd, 2007 10:35
Hopkins CD 5-2
Posted from: 66.166.207.8
November 3rd, 2007 10:50
anyone know about matt hershey and ross brown
Posted from: 98.197.217.235
November 3rd, 2007 10:59
i’ve heard that liipfert, donatti, and tyger broke for strake
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November 3rd, 2007 11:17
Conor Doherty and Kristen Allison broke for Hopkins.
Posted from: 32.138.129.235
November 3rd, 2007 11:19
Here are the pairings I know:
Shadman v scoggin
Catherine v Daniel
David v gooderham
Paul v matt
Ben v chris
Kathleen v Christian
Sorry about not using codes, Im doing this from my phone
Posted from: 24.193.206.119
November 3rd, 2007 11:23
Did Bronx clear anyone?
Posted from: 204.72.116.44
November 3rd, 2007 11:41
22nd MinneApple Debate Tournament — VLD
Apple Valley, MN
November 2-3, 2007
Double Octafinal Round (A: 1:15pm B: 2:00pm)
Sorry if the formatting sucks. We empaneled five judges and gave each team a strike off the panel to create the following panels of three.
A: 102 Sacred Heart SZ (Flip) Blake JS Lyons, Ely Boyd, Jane Babb, Step
B: 102 Strake Jesuit College TL (Flip) Meadows AS Lyons, Ely Babb, Step Alston, Jo
A: 104 Scarsdale KH (Flip) Walt Whitman EM Rai, Prash Charrier, Severson,
B: 104 Eastview AR (Flip) Hopkins KA Schiano, P Fernandez, Duby, Sam
A: 106 Ridge AT (Flip) Crowley GG Evnen, Tom Tarsney, C Brundage,
B: 106 Ridge SC (Flip) Walt Whitman EN Evnen, Tom Tarsney, C Brundage,
A: 108 St. Louis Park CT (Flip) Scarsdale DD Johnson, G Choudhury, Conrad, Ne
B: 108 Scarsdale MM (Flip) Hopkins CD Johnson, G Choudhury, Conrad, Ne
A: 126 Valley MA (Flip) Lakeville North TC Sidhu, Run Spirtos, M Hogan, Tim
B: 126 Strake Jesuit College DD (Flip) Upper St. Clair JG Hess, Step Sidhu, Run Spirtos, M
A: 128 Scarsdale MH (Flip) Strake Jesuit College PT Nelson, Ad Nance, Gre Timmons, A
B: 128 Collegiate MW (Flip) Meadows NB Nelson, Ad Nance, Gre Timmons, A
A: 130 Edina BH (Flip) Analy CC Mumper, Se Diehl, Pat Eastlund,
B: 130 Hockaday KF (Flip) Lakeville South CK Scoggin, L Diehl, Pat Gelfand, J
A: 132 Edina DM (Flip) Mountain View JM McGrath, L Meyers, Da Castillo,
B: 132 Newtown AA (Flip) Oak Mountain WH McGrath, L Kwan, Jona Castillo,
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November 3rd, 2007 12:14
Valley MA def. Lakeville North TC 3-0
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November 3rd, 2007 12:18
Edina DM def. Mountain View JM 3-0
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November 3rd, 2007 12:26
Dig it our SUPERMAN!!!
Posted from: 76.224.125.103
November 3rd, 2007 12:57
congratulations maeshal!
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November 3rd, 2007 12:58
Octas?
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November 3rd, 2007 13:26
SLP CT def. Scarsdale DD 3-0
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November 3rd, 2007 13:30
congrats emily and ellen!!
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
November 3rd, 2007 13:40
Congrats to Merrill on the bid round. Congrats to Maeshal for bidding. Maeshal ftw
Posted from: 75.72.51.82
November 3rd, 2007 13:47
Scarsdale MM def. Hopkins CD 2-1
Posted from: 71.60.209.85
November 3rd, 2007 13:57
Any post on Octas?
Posted from: 64.12.116.76
November 3rd, 2007 13:59
congrats akshay
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November 3rd, 2007 14:21
congrats to meadows
Posted from: 24.23.137.171
November 3rd, 2007 15:53
congrats maeshal!
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
November 3rd, 2007 15:55
Maeshal=Drew Brees
Posted from: 69.134.16.205
November 3rd, 2007 17:37
AKSHAY AGASSSSHEEEEE is gonna ween the Entire tournament. Congrats to the Gooderham too. and Catherine and Daks. And Donatti/Todd
Posted from: 74.70.112.133
November 3rd, 2007 17:39
WOOOT HERSHEYS! And Props to wade
Posted from: 72.255.34.183
November 3rd, 2007 17:59
congrats to scara and fuckin AT.
Posted from: 74.41.205.99
November 3rd, 2007 18:00
i am infinitely indebted to chris, jeff, john, jordan, spirtos, and wade for the moral support on helping me make it through the most delicious struggle of all debate tournaments ever.
Posted from: 74.39.133.178
November 3rd, 2007 18:19
Sorry. I’m absolutely sure that the tournament is way past octas, but for those wondering:
Eastview AR vs. Edina BH
Ridge AT vs. Collegiate MW
Sacred Heart SZ vs. Oak Mountain WH
Scarsdale MM vs. Scarsdale MM
St. Louis Park CT vs. Strake Jesuit DD
Strake Jesuit TL vs. Edina DM
Walt Whitman EM vs. Lakeville South CK
Walt Whitman EN vs. Strake Jesuit PT
Results from Octas that I know:
Edina BH def. Eastview AR
Oak Mountain WH def. Sacred Heart SZ (Shadman Zaman)
Valley MA def. Scarsdale MM (Marcus Moretti)
Strake Jesuit DD def. St. Louis Park CT (Catherine Tarsney)
Lakeville South CK def. Walt Whitman EM (Emily Massey)
Posted from: 12.106.22.34
November 3rd, 2007 18:26
Semis were
Edina BH v. Oak Mountain WH
Strake Jesuit TL v. Valley MA
I dont know the results since I left before the rounds were over.
Posted from: 74.70.112.133
November 3rd, 2007 18:29
WOOOT MARC WALLACH GETTIN QUALLED
Posted from: 67.165.106.132
November 3rd, 2007 18:34
congratulations to marc.
Posted from: 69.120.236.168
November 3rd, 2007 18:41
Nice job, Marc and Christian.
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November 3rd, 2007 18:48
Good Job akshay.
Posted from: 74.70.121.102
November 3rd, 2007 18:49
Nice job Marc, what a great two weeks in a row
Posted from: 137.22.232.65
November 3rd, 2007 19:04
any word on semi’s results? can we get the pairings for quarters up as well?
Posted from: 137.22.232.65
November 3rd, 2007 19:07
oh, and woot for maeshall!
Posted from: 74.36.142.231
November 3rd, 2007 19:07
http://www.mdta.org/pages.aspx?pagesID=257##
results are at the bottom of the page
Posted from: 72.66.28.106
November 3rd, 2007 19:10
congrats to Ellen and Emily on the bids!!
Posted from: 137.22.232.65
November 3rd, 2007 19:15
thanks for the results packet but it doesn’t contain outround results… only prelims… if someone couldpost quarters, semis, and finals, that’d be awesome.
Posted from: 70.241.114.36
November 3rd, 2007 19:18
Hell ya todd, way to break the curse
Posted from: 130.64.132.163
November 3rd, 2007 19:22
Todd and David, great job!
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
November 3rd, 2007 19:38
Maeshal you got it
Posted from: 75.168.27.217
November 3rd, 2007 19:41
Todd’s quarters round was sweet. Way to dominate it.
Posted from: 68.239.78.9
November 3rd, 2007 19:55
Congratulations to Emily and Ellen on the bids! Great job!
Posted from: 208.57.119.248
November 3rd, 2007 20:12
LOLRVILLE
Posted from: 74.41.205.99
November 3rd, 2007 20:32
ben over todd in finals on a 5-0!
ben over wade in semis on a 3-0.
todd over maeshal in semis on a not sure…
Posted from: 74.45.235.170
November 3rd, 2007 20:32
in finals ben holguin defeated todd liipfert on a 5-0 (hogan, arton, choudhury, vaughan, hertzig). congrats to all.
in semis
edina bh def. oak mountain wh 3-0 (hogan, rai, arton)
strake jesuit tl def. valley ma 2-1
great tournament. despite being single flighted it still somehow managed to run on time and ensure quality judging.
Posted from: 216.49.159.164
November 3rd, 2007 20:39
congrats marc!
Posted from: 69.115.223.185
November 3rd, 2007 20:40
congrats on breaking steph and nice job bidding alan tong
Posted from: 69.115.223.185
November 3rd, 2007 20:41
and good job d chen. you’ll break your unlucky streak soon
Posted from: 98.197.21.3
November 3rd, 2007 20:43
massive congrats todd
Posted from: 12.106.22.34
November 3rd, 2007 20:48
Congrats on breaking the bid round curse and finals, Todd!
Posted from: 74.45.219.125
November 3rd, 2007 21:13
Congrats to Liipfert, way to break bid round curse and rep Texas well.
Posted from: 138.88.146.22
November 3rd, 2007 21:15
Congrats Ellen and Emily!! Also awesome job to Akshay and Marc.
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
November 3rd, 2007 21:36
congrats to wade and maeshal
Posted from: 65.33.216.205
November 3rd, 2007 21:42
congrats to ben and todd on the second vanderbabb octas bid closeout. also congrats to wade and maeshal on reppin the confederacy in semis.
crazy fact: hellz bitchez is 3/3 in terms of octas bids.
Posted from: 137.22.232.65
November 3rd, 2007 22:22
congrats to everyone at the tournament. way to go maeshall! nice job john, and shadman too. ben, this is quite the acomplishment. i remeber when i saw you debate for the first time at slp last year. you really are a skilled debater and you should be proud of yourself. nice job to the eagan guys too. we were so close… all of you guys did amazing. to the novices and jv’ers: you guys were wonderful at this tournament. nice job everyone and thanks for a great tournament cherian!
Matt
Posted from: 70.112.179.91
November 3rd, 2007 23:03
todd: you finally got your golden ticket, and then some. well done.
Posted from: 71.82.138.130
November 4th, 2007 00:09
todd, way to turn around losing 1434541 bid rounds to a finals appearance.
Posted from: 24.243.26.60
November 4th, 2007 00:24
great job todd
but i still love to hate you :)
Posted from: 166.128.208.110
November 4th, 2007 03:45
This was Whitman’s first trip to the Minneapple, but it will most certainly not be the last. Thank you very much to Pam, Cherian, and the wonderful Apple Valley crew.
Of course, congrats to everyone, but esp. congrats to Em and Ellen. Em, you got a bid as a sophomore and didn’t even need nuclear war! And Ellen, you were long overdue for this because you have the talent to match your work ethic. It’s really good to see great things happen to great people. I am so proud of you both!
Posted from: 74.45.235.169
November 4th, 2007 06:05
strake jesuit tl over valley ma in semis was
duby, mcgrath, *fernandez
Posted from: 68.44.253.125
November 4th, 2007 07:13
congrats steph, tom, jp, and christian!
Posted from: 68.192.165.197
November 4th, 2007 07:35
Congrats to Steph on getting into the bid round and Alan for the qual. That was insane!!!
Also congrats to Marcus on the bid and Daks and the Hersheys for their bid rounds as well.
Posted from: 71.82.138.130
November 4th, 2007 07:41
way to turn it around, todd!
Posted from: 74.39.133.178
November 4th, 2007 07:47
“dude you’re affirming”
todd finally got a golden ticket.
Posted from: 69.140.239.225
November 4th, 2007 07:53
Congrats to Christian and AT on the quals and to Daks, Akshay, and Tom for breaking.
Posted from: 63.231.140.250
November 4th, 2007 08:08
collegiate mw is marc wallach, whom i would like to congratulate. i saw him debate a few weeks ago and was very impressed. also congrats to his coach, sean mumper, on bein’ back in the game and getting his first qualification to the toc at collegiate.
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
November 4th, 2007 08:22
Congrats to all, but especially maeshal, keep editing Baudrillard son.
Posted from: 74.70.110.205
November 4th, 2007 08:26
Congrats to Scarsdale, Christian and Marc for completing the qual, and JP and Akshay for breaking.
Posted from: 24.115.128.87
November 4th, 2007 08:28
Congrats to JP, Steph and of course Ellen for the bid!
Posted from: 68.44.253.125
November 4th, 2007 09:19
and congrats to ellen too!!!!
you rockkk =) way to go.
Posted from: 70.56.5.242
November 4th, 2007 09:26
quarters (from what i remember):
oak mountain wh def. walt whitman en (ellen noble)(timmons, schiano, duby*)
strake jesuit tl over ridge at (alan tong) (concession)
strake jesuit dd def. st. louis park ct (catherine tarsney) (don’t know panel)
valley ma def. lakeville north ck (christian keil) (choudhoury, vaughan, fernandez)
Posted from: 70.56.5.242
November 4th, 2007 09:41
oops,
edina bh def. strake jesuit dd (david donatti) (russel*, conrad, arton)
Posted from: 66.108.94.165
November 4th, 2007 09:53
Congratulations to Ben and Todd on a very, very, very well deserved final round appearance.
Marc: TOC. YES.
And congrats to Team Whitman and fellow Northeasterners on Teams Scarsdale, Ridge, and Sacred Heart!
Posted from: 67.8.227.203
November 4th, 2007 10:01
Congrats to Maeshal on a semis appearance after a frustrating sept/oct and Ben Holguin for tearing up. Also, congrats to Marc, Akshay, Steph, Shadman, Marcus, David, and Wade.
Posted from: 76.167.133.248
November 4th, 2007 10:12
Nice job Todd for the breakout tournament (I knew you had it in you) and to Ben for another impressive performance!
Posted from: 75.73.214.91
November 4th, 2007 10:42
congrats to Scoggin, Amanda, Hersheys, Conor, Caruso, JP, Catterton, Bratton, Merrill, David, Moretti, Tarsney, LSCK, Wade, Maeshal, and Ben “No Prisoners” Holguin.
Posted from: 69.118.235.253
November 4th, 2007 10:43
Sharp shootin’, Maeshal.
Congrats also to Wade, Tits, and Ben.
Posted from: 63.246.171.93
November 4th, 2007 10:59
Todd. Liipfert.
TODD!!
Congrats!
(What happened in quarters?)
Posted from: 67.80.221.134
November 4th, 2007 11:08
had to catch a plane
:o(
Posted from: 205.188.116.76
November 4th, 2007 11:12
Congrats David on Quarters, Catherine on bidding, Marc on qualifing to the TOC in just over a week, Steph and Grant on clearing, and Danielle on second speaker!
Posted from: 74.45.235.142
November 4th, 2007 11:24
Good job Todd and Ben.
And David McNeil.
Posted from: 74.68.51.212
November 4th, 2007 11:33
congrats idontwannawait, steph, daks, tommyc, and akshay
Posted from: 216.250.178.113
November 4th, 2007 11:49
Congrats to Catherine on bid #4.
Posted from: 66.108.94.165
November 4th, 2007 12:08
And, to follow up on my previous comment, special shout-out to Christian Keil on qualifying to the TOC!
Posted from: 69.134.16.205
November 4th, 2007 13:33
Jon you should make something ( like a page) for all TOC qualifiers/ people with 1 bid
Posted from: 69.134.16.205
November 4th, 2007 13:33
by for i mean of
Posted from: 151.202.43.64
November 4th, 2007 13:40
What ever happened to the NDR? (national debate ranking) I thought someone was going to start that back up.
Posted from: 69.140.162.0
November 4th, 2007 14:00
congrats whitman and marc wallach
Posted from: 74.73.34.67
November 4th, 2007 14:31
This tournament was amazingly well-run. Single flighting rounds is the best idea of all time.
Congrats to everyone who did well, and a big thanks to michael o’ for a late night prep session.
Posted from: 67.67.70.148
November 4th, 2007 14:45
david donnatti is the most despicable member of the debate community to date.
Posted from: 71.36.49.93
November 4th, 2007 15:17
Congrats to Ellen and Emily on the bids! AWESOME Job!!
Posted from: 69.151.159.252
November 4th, 2007 15:50
Congrats to Todd for his well-deserved bid and finals appearance.
Congrats to Catherine, David, and Paul for continuing to be awesome, and congrats to Marc for finishing his qual.
Posted from: 24.151.110.76
November 4th, 2007 16:10
Nice job Akshay.
Posted from: 69.140.159.61
November 4th, 2007 16:19
Major congrats on the bid as a sophmore Emily! You’re amazing!
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
November 4th, 2007 16:21
Congrats to Ben, Todd, David, Alan, Marc, and Maeshal.
Posted from: 207.172.150.37
November 4th, 2007 16:37
Congrats on bidding getting to quarters, Ellen!
Posted from: 207.172.150.37
November 4th, 2007 16:38
*bidding and getting to quarters
Posted from: 68.196.204.206
November 4th, 2007 16:52
Why did Alan Tong forfeit his quarters round?
Posted from: 198.36.194.2
November 4th, 2007 17:01
he had to catch a flight home.
Posted from: 150.108.232.25
November 4th, 2007 17:55
congratulations mr. liipfert
Posted from: 208.120.29.121
November 4th, 2007 18:09
What happened to the crap apple?
Posted from: 70.56.5.242
November 4th, 2007 18:42
i’m fairly certain it is the crab apple, sir
Posted from: 74.36.137.22
November 4th, 2007 18:45
lol… crap apple.
Correction: I’m from Lakeville South, not Lakeville North.
Posted from: 208.120.29.121
November 4th, 2007 19:13
Argh. Crab apple.
Which leads back to the original question, where’d it go?
Posted from: 71.123.192.89
November 4th, 2007 20:48
I would like to take this time to Thank Pam Wycoff, Cherian Koshy, and all the Apple Valley Debate students and parents. The Minnesota Nice was certainly in place. What a great experience we had in our first trip to the Minneapple. We hope to return. Outstanding job my friends!
Posted from: 68.209.198.15
November 4th, 2007 20:59
akshar rambachan is a machine. 7-0 in prelims and an octas appearance with absolutely zero LD experience before this tournament.
Posted from: 75.73.208.213
November 4th, 2007 21:08
To be fair, Akshar had debated at least somewhat on the MN local circuit before this tournament, but just the same Wade is totally right… Akshar took this tournament by storm. Congrats to him on being 7-0 and bidding.
Posted from: 128.101.49.47
November 4th, 2007 21:31
To be fairer: this is NOT a joke. Akshar is the shit. In his doubles round Paul Schiano, Jason Fernandez, and Sam Duby took his source cites claiming it was the best AC/evidence they’ve seen in over a year. Not only that he actually cuts his cards. Yes, actually uses scissors, glues them to note cards, and has a stack of them on his desk waiting to be read (none of this expando crap). If that isn’t enough for you he flows horizontally and beat some of the most technical debaters at this tournament in front of legitimate judges.
If you’re reading this Akshar - please go to Blake so you can qual for the ToC.
Posted from: 128.101.49.47
November 4th, 2007 21:33
p.s. anyone who is running a round robin should unquestionably consider inviting him.
Posted from: 66.233.57.238
November 4th, 2007 22:24
this must mean my sun will imp/explode in 20 days time evidence is out of date.
Posted from: 69.150.184.56
November 5th, 2007 02:23
haha that’s amazing, going 7-0 and beating wade, donnatti, ben, and david. i wish i could’ve seen this kid.
Posted from: 66.108.94.165
November 5th, 2007 06:18
I received a text from the tournament from Chris Castillo about an incredibly talented young man reppin’ the horizontal flow — Chris and I definitely employed yellow pads throughout high school — and I’m glad to see that Akshar continues a tradition of excellence from Eastview. I’ve been very impressed by Eastview debaters I’ve judged before. Congratulations on going 7-0 and receiving a bid to the TOC!
Posted from: 74.10.26.66
November 5th, 2007 08:54
marc, what does it say about the state of the toc that you’ll be there? jk. congrats to kathleen, the hersheys, and marcW
Posted from: 75.73.208.213
November 5th, 2007 16:16
Yeah I really hope Akshar comes to Blake too… he definitely deserves to be at TOC. I just hope he isn’t too put off by his loss to Ben in octas to not go to any more bid tournaments - word is he was extremely upset and said rounds like that are “the reason Eastview doesn’t do LD.” I think it would be a huge loss for the community if Akshar disappears from the national circuit debate scene.
Posted from: 75.73.208.213
November 5th, 2007 16:22
Oh if anyone cares, my octas round was:
Strake Jesuit TL def. Edina DM (David McNeil)
2-1 (Aaron Timmons, Chetan Hertzig, *Jo Russel)
Posted from: 24.46.207.84
November 5th, 2007 16:39
Congrats to Akshay, Matt Hershey, and Tom Coruso on breaks and big congrats to Christian Keil on the bid!
congrats on the qual Christian!!
Posted from: 75.134.159.197
November 5th, 2007 16:44
thanks for all the kind words
First, congrats to ben for a well-fought, deserved victory.
David, I would love to come to Blake. Of course, I was frustrated about the outcome of the round- it is only natural. I was taken aback by the vastly unique and frankly confusing theory. However, we must remember it was a brilliant move on Ben’s part and for that he deserves congrats. I personally am not a fan of theory in the sense that it can really make debate unfair. The point of a resolution is to limit the debate and make preparation possible. When a million decent sounding theories are possible, such preparation is nullified and the purpose of context with the resolution is lost. Once again, smart move by Ben. In the two prior times we debated, it was always unique, but resolutional and I had enjoyed that.
I will see you all soon
Akshar
Posted from: 66.41.183.0
November 5th, 2007 17:50
Thank you to everyone for attending and for the great compliments. It should be noted that the double octos panels were originally five judges that competitors were able to strike from. Please let us know your feedback on that idea.
The crab apple award went to Wayzata’s Francesca Parente, who wasn’t present for awards so I will hand her her award at Highland Park next weekend.
Packets are posted on the MDTA website (www.mdta.org). It’s also important to congratulate the JV and Novice champions and finalists. In JV, Apple Valley’s Kirstie Kimball defeated Sacred Heart’s Meling May on a 3-2 decision in a pride driven round. Shoshana Gordan Ginsburg, Emily Pechacek, and Chris Bentley were in the majority. Patrick Diehl and Elyse Lyons dissented. In Novice, Valley’s Nimah Ahmed defeated Roseville’s Meera Sury.
Also, the MinneApple awards sweepstakes awards for teams that compete in all three divisions. The sweepstakes points were very close during awards and depended on the outcome of varsity elimination rounds. This year, the West Des Moines Valley team took home the championship. This is the fifth time coach David McGinnis has won the sweepstakes at Apple Valley with three different schools. Congratulations to Valley and to Dave! Edina took second with Ben’s win in finals and Lakeville South rounded out the top three.
This year’s Golden Apple award winner was Mr. Doug Springer of New Trier Township HS. The Distinguished Alumnus Award was presented to Peter Nikolai from St. Paul Central HS.
Watch for the full story on the NFL website (www.nflonline.org) coming this week!
Posted from: 66.41.183.0
November 5th, 2007 17:53
Of course, after I hit submit, I realized that I forgot about Public Forum. Public Forum was held at the Apple Valley tournament for the first time this year. The inaugural competition was hosted on Saturday with five rounds of competition. The Blake School’s Matt Aizpuru & Julia Hawkins bested the field by remaining the only undefeated team and capturing the championship trophy. Okoboji High School, Iowa’s Katelyn Warburton & Alyssa Geinitz were the second place finishers with only one loss. Blake is coached by Leslie Robinett and Okoboji is coached by Greg Stevens.
Congratulations again!
Posted from: 69.151.230.153
November 5th, 2007 18:11
I thought the doubles strikes were a great idea.
Posted from: 75.73.208.213
November 5th, 2007 18:17
Akshar, of course it is natural to be frustrated about the outcome of difficult and important rounds when they don’t go the way one hopes they will - I meant no offense by my previous comment, and I’m glad to hear you’ll be attending Blake.
Posted from: 24.15.67.15
November 5th, 2007 19:03
what happened to the varsity “prelim contestants in order” packet?
Posted from: 64.12.116.76
November 5th, 2007 19:13
I also thought the strikes in doubles were excellent.
Long as I’m here - congrats to the Hopkins team on an excellent weekend - particularly Kristen Allison for making her first bid round, and Conor Doherty for making his 3rd bid round in 3 bid tournaments this season.
Posted from: 68.209.198.15
November 5th, 2007 20:15
allowing strikes in doubles was a great idea. also, the outrounds judging was excellent in general, especially considering the lack of mpj.
Posted from: 128.192.223.134
November 5th, 2007 22:27
Congrats to Wade and David again. I’m still waiting for a win, guys.
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November 6th, 2007 04:36
I thought the doubles strikes were a great idea as well.
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