Comments on: Ben Holguin Wins the MinneApple

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By: Anjan

Anjan — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:36:36 +0000

I thought the doubles strikes were a great idea as well.

By: Ian

Ian — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:27:15 +0000

Congrats to Wade and David again. I’m still waiting for a win, guys.

By: wade

wade — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:15:11 +0000

allowing strikes in doubles was a great idea. also, the outrounds judging was excellent in general, especially considering the lack of mpj.

By: Adam Torson

Adam Torson — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:13:50 +0000

I also thought the strikes in doubles were excellent.

Long as I’m here – congrats to the Hopkins team on an excellent weekend – particularly Kristen Allison for making her first bid round, and Conor Doherty for making his 3rd bid round in 3 bid tournaments this season.

By: Zisook

Zisook — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:03:58 +0000

what happened to the varsity “prelim contestants in order” packet?

By: David McNeil

David McNeil — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:17:47 +0000

Akshar, of course it is natural to be frustrated about the outcome of difficult and important rounds when they don’t go the way one hopes they will – I meant no offense by my previous comment, and I’m glad to hear you’ll be attending Blake.

By: Chris Castillo

Chris Castillo — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:11:14 +0000

I thought the doubles strikes were a great idea.

By: Cherian

Cherian — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:53:35 +0000

Of course, after I hit submit, I realized that I forgot about Public Forum. Public Forum was held at the Apple Valley tournament for the first time this year. The inaugural competition was hosted on Saturday with five rounds of competition. The Blake School’s Matt Aizpuru & Julia Hawkins bested the field by remaining the only undefeated team and capturing the championship trophy. Okoboji High School, Iowa’s Katelyn Warburton & Alyssa Geinitz were the second place finishers with only one loss. Blake is coached by Leslie Robinett and Okoboji is coached by Greg Stevens.

Congratulations again!

By: Cherian

Cherian — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:50:58 +0000

Thank you to everyone for attending and for the great compliments. It should be noted that the double octos panels were originally five judges that competitors were able to strike from. Please let us know your feedback on that idea.

The crab apple award went to Wayzata’s Francesca Parente, who wasn’t present for awards so I will hand her her award at Highland Park next weekend.

Packets are posted on the MDTA website (www.mdta.org). It’s also important to congratulate the JV and Novice champions and finalists. In JV, Apple Valley’s Kirstie Kimball defeated Sacred Heart’s Meling May on a 3-2 decision in a pride driven round. Shoshana Gordan Ginsburg, Emily Pechacek, and Chris Bentley were in the majority. Patrick Diehl and Elyse Lyons dissented. In Novice, Valley’s Nimah Ahmed defeated Roseville’s Meera Sury.

Also, the MinneApple awards sweepstakes awards for teams that compete in all three divisions. The sweepstakes points were very close during awards and depended on the outcome of varsity elimination rounds. This year, the West Des Moines Valley team took home the championship. This is the fifth time coach David McGinnis has won the sweepstakes at Apple Valley with three different schools. Congratulations to Valley and to Dave! Edina took second with Ben’s win in finals and Lakeville South rounded out the top three.

This year’s Golden Apple award winner was Mr. Doug Springer of New Trier Township HS. The Distinguished Alumnus Award was presented to Peter Nikolai from St. Paul Central HS.

Watch for the full story on the NFL website (www.nflonline.org) coming this week!

By: Akshar

Akshar — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:44:09 +0000

thanks for all the kind words

First, congrats to ben for a well-fought, deserved victory.

David, I would love to come to Blake. Of course, I was frustrated about the outcome of the round- it is only natural. I was taken aback by the vastly unique and frankly confusing theory. However, we must remember it was a brilliant move on Ben’s part and for that he deserves congrats. I personally am not a fan of theory in the sense that it can really make debate unfair. The point of a resolution is to limit the debate and make preparation possible. When a million decent sounding theories are possible, such preparation is nullified and the purpose of context with the resolution is lost. Once again, smart move by Ben. In the two prior times we debated, it was always unique, but resolutional and I had enjoyed that.

I will see you all soon

Akshar

By: Sachin

Sachin — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:39:07 +0000

Congrats to Akshay, Matt Hershey, and Tom Coruso on breaks and big congrats to Christian Keil on the bid!

congrats on the qual Christian!!

By: David McNeil

David McNeil — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:22:01 +0000

Oh if anyone cares, my octas round was:

Strake Jesuit TL def. Edina DM (David McNeil)
2-1 (Aaron Timmons, Chetan Hertzig, *Jo Russel)

By: David McNeil

David McNeil — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:16:00 +0000

Yeah I really hope Akshar comes to Blake too… he definitely deserves to be at TOC. I just hope he isn’t too put off by his loss to Ben in octas to not go to any more bid tournaments – word is he was extremely upset and said rounds like that are “the reason Eastview doesn’t do LD.” I think it would be a huge loss for the community if Akshar disappears from the national circuit debate scene.

By: MiSoneff

MiSoneff — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:54:02 +0000

marc, what does it say about the state of the toc that you’ll be there? jk. congrats to kathleen, the hersheys, and marcW

By: Jon Cruz

Jon Cruz — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:18:02 +0000

I received a text from the tournament from Chris Castillo about an incredibly talented young man reppin’ the horizontal flow — Chris and I definitely employed yellow pads throughout high school — and I’m glad to see that Akshar continues a tradition of excellence from Eastview. I’ve been very impressed by Eastview debaters I’ve judged before. Congratulations on going 7-0 and receiving a bid to the TOC!

By: quinn olivarez

quinn olivarez — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:23:27 +0000

haha that’s amazing, going 7-0 and beating wade, donnatti, ben, and david. i wish i could’ve seen this kid.

By: Rebar Niemi

Rebar Niemi — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:24:44 +0000

this must mean my sun will imp/explode in 20 days time evidence is out of date.

By: jswitala

jswitala — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:33:46 +0000

p.s. anyone who is running a round robin should unquestionably consider inviting him.

By: jswitala

jswitala — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:31:37 +0000

To be fairer: this is NOT a joke. Akshar is the shit. In his doubles round Paul Schiano, Jason Fernandez, and Sam Duby took his source cites claiming it was the best AC/evidence they’ve seen in over a year. Not only that he actually cuts his cards. Yes, actually uses scissors, glues them to note cards, and has a stack of them on his desk waiting to be read (none of this expando crap). If that isn’t enough for you he flows horizontally and beat some of the most technical debaters at this tournament in front of legitimate judges.

If you’re reading this Akshar – please go to Blake so you can qual for the ToC.

By: David McNeil

David McNeil — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:08:39 +0000

To be fair, Akshar had debated at least somewhat on the MN local circuit before this tournament, but just the same Wade is totally right… Akshar took this tournament by storm. Congrats to him on being 7-0 and bidding.

By: wade

wade — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:59:40 +0000

akshar rambachan is a machine. 7-0 in prelims and an octas appearance with absolutely zero LD experience before this tournament.

By: Jane Boyd

Jane Boyd — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:48:04 +0000

I would like to take this time to Thank Pam Wycoff, Cherian Koshy, and all the Apple Valley Debate students and parents. The Minnesota Nice was certainly in place. What a great experience we had in our first trip to the Minneapple. We hope to return. Outstanding job my friends!

By: nc

nc — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:13:35 +0000

Argh. Crab apple.
Which leads back to the original question, where’d it go?

By: CK

CK — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:45:03 +0000

lol… crap apple.

Correction: I’m from Lakeville South, not Lakeville North.

By: maeshal

maeshal — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:42:14 +0000

i’m fairly certain it is the crab apple, sir

By: nc

nc — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:09:15 +0000

What happened to the crap apple?

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:55:48 +0000

congratulations mr. liipfert

By: mjocon

mjocon — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:01:59 +0000

he had to catch a flight home.

By: Max Chang

Max Chang — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:52:09 +0000

Why did Alan Tong forfeit his quarters round?

By: Emily Massey

Emily Massey — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:38:10 +0000

*bidding and getting to quarters

By: Emily Massey

Emily Massey — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:37:46 +0000

Congrats on bidding getting to quarters, Ellen!

By: Catherine Tarsney

Catherine Tarsney — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:21:50 +0000

Congrats to Ben, Todd, David, Alan, Marc, and Maeshal.

By: ENoble

ENoble — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:19:41 +0000

Major congrats on the bid as a sophmore Emily! You’re amazing!

By: Mark

Mark — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:10:25 +0000

Nice job Akshay.

By: Rachel Vogel

Rachel Vogel — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:50:31 +0000

Congrats to Todd for his well-deserved bid and finals appearance.
Congrats to Catherine, David, and Paul for continuing to be awesome, and congrats to Marc for finishing his qual.

By: Sydney

Sydney — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:17:07 +0000

Congrats to Ellen and Emily on the bids! AWESOME Job!!

By: quinn olivarez

quinn olivarez — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:45:38 +0000

david donnatti is the most despicable member of the debate community to date.

By: Sean Mumper

Sean Mumper — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:31:28 +0000

This tournament was amazingly well-run. Single flighting rounds is the best idea of all time.

Congrats to everyone who did well, and a big thanks to michael o’ for a late night prep session.

By: Vin

Vin — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:00:50 +0000

congrats whitman and marc wallach

By: ?

Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:40:06 +0000

What ever happened to the NDR? (national debate ranking) I thought someone was going to start that back up.

By: Mo

Mo — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:33:43 +0000

by for i mean of

By: Mo

Mo — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:33:25 +0000

Jon you should make something ( like a page) for all TOC qualifiers/ people with 1 bid

By: Jon Cruz

Jon Cruz — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:08:32 +0000

And, to follow up on my previous comment, special shout-out to Christian Keil on qualifying to the TOC!

By: Nick Tourville

Nick Tourville — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:49:41 +0000

Congrats to Catherine on bid #4.

By: Matt

Matt — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:33:45 +0000

congrats idontwannawait, steph, daks, tommyc, and akshay

By: Chris Castillo

Chris Castillo — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:24:54 +0000

Good job Todd and Ben.

And David McNeil.

By: Melanie Plaza

Melanie Plaza — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:12:33 +0000

Congrats David on Quarters, Catherine on bidding, Marc on qualifing to the TOC in just over a week, Steph and Grant on clearing, and Danielle on second speaker!

By: tongs

tongs — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:08:07 +0000

had to catch a plane

:o(

By: Devin Race

Devin Race — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:59:54 +0000

Todd. Liipfert.
TODD!!
Congrats!

(What happened in quarters?)

By: Ken

Ken — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:43:50 +0000

Sharp shootin’, Maeshal.

Congrats also to Wade, Tits, and Ben.

By: Jordan G

Jordan G — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:42:25 +0000

congrats to Scoggin, Amanda, Hersheys, Conor, Caruso, JP, Catterton, Bratton, Merrill, David, Moretti, Tarsney, LSCK, Wade, Maeshal, and Ben “No Prisoners” Holguin.

By: Josh Anderson

Josh Anderson — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:12:08 +0000

Nice job Todd for the breakout tournament (I knew you had it in you) and to Ben for another impressive performance!

By: Ravi

Ravi — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:01:52 +0000

Congrats to Maeshal on a semis appearance after a frustrating sept/oct and Ben Holguin for tearing up. Also, congrats to Marc, Akshay, Steph, Shadman, Marcus, David, and Wade.

By: Jon Cruz

Jon Cruz — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:53:04 +0000

Congratulations to Ben and Todd on a very, very, very well deserved final round appearance.

Marc: TOC. YES.

And congrats to Team Whitman and fellow Northeasterners on Teams Scarsdale, Ridge, and Sacred Heart!

By: maeshal

maeshal — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:41:02 +0000

oops,

edina bh def. strake jesuit dd (david donatti) (russel*, conrad, arton)

By: maeshal

maeshal — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:26:21 +0000

quarters (from what i remember):

oak mountain wh def. walt whitman en (ellen noble)(timmons, schiano, duby*)

strake jesuit tl over ridge at (alan tong) (concession)

strake jesuit dd def. st. louis park ct (catherine tarsney) (don’t know panel)

valley ma def. lakeville north ck (christian keil) (choudhoury, vaughan, fernandez)

By: Karlyn

Karlyn — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:19:10 +0000

and congrats to ellen too!!!!
you rockkk =) way to go.

By: Zak

Zak — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:28:50 +0000

Congrats to JP, Steph and of course Ellen for the bid!

By: Niskayuna SD

Niskayuna SD — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:26:21 +0000

Congrats to Scarsdale, Christian and Marc for completing the qual, and JP and Akshay for breaking.

By: Sean Wynn

Sean Wynn — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:22:35 +0000

Congrats to all, but especially maeshal, keep editing Baudrillard son.

By: mjocon

mjocon — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:08:24 +0000

collegiate mw is marc wallach, whom i would like to congratulate. i saw him debate a few weeks ago and was very impressed. also congrats to his coach, sean mumper, on bein’ back in the game and getting his first qualification to the toc at collegiate.

By: Nikhil

Nikhil — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:53:38 +0000

Congrats to Christian and AT on the quals and to Daks, Akshay, and Tom for breaking.

By: gary

gary — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:47:34 +0000

“dude you’re affirming”

todd finally got a golden ticket.

By: david

david — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:41:50 +0000

way to turn it around, todd!

By: david chen

david chen — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:35:11 +0000

Congrats to Steph on getting into the bid round and Alan for the qual. That was insane!!!

Also congrats to Marcus on the bid and Daks and the Hersheys for their bid rounds as well.

By: Karlyn

Karlyn — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:13:49 +0000

congrats steph, tom, jp, and christian!

By: mjocon

mjocon — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:05:58 +0000

strake jesuit tl over valley ma in semis was
duby, mcgrath, *fernandez

By: Anjan

Anjan — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:45:28 +0000

This was Whitman’s first trip to the Minneapple, but it will most certainly not be the last. Thank you very much to Pam, Cherian, and the wonderful Apple Valley crew.

Of course, congrats to everyone, but esp. congrats to Em and Ellen. Em, you got a bid as a sophomore and didn’t even need nuclear war! And Ellen, you were long overdue for this because you have the talent to match your work ethic. It’s really good to see great things happen to great people. I am so proud of you both!

By: Ajay Ketkar

Ajay Ketkar — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:24:39 +0000

great job todd

but i still love to hate you :)

By: quinn olivarez

quinn olivarez — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:09:23 +0000

todd, way to turn around losing 1434541 bid rounds to a finals appearance.

By: john lewis

john lewis — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:03:58 +0000

todd: you finally got your golden ticket, and then some. well done.

By: Matt Fink

Matt Fink — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:22:50 +0000

congrats to everyone at the tournament. way to go maeshall! nice job john, and shadman too. ben, this is quite the acomplishment. i remeber when i saw you debate for the first time at slp last year. you really are a skilled debater and you should be proud of yourself. nice job to the eagan guys too. we were so close… all of you guys did amazing. to the novices and jv’ers: you guys were wonderful at this tournament. nice job everyone and thanks for a great tournament cherian!

Matt

By: Jake Nebel

Jake Nebel — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:42:44 +0000

congrats to ben and todd on the second vanderbabb octas bid closeout. also congrats to wade and maeshal on reppin the confederacy in semis.

crazy fact: hellz bitchez is 3/3 in terms of octas bids.

By: Daniel Khalessi

Daniel Khalessi — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:36:29 +0000

congrats to wade and maeshal

By: Marco

Marco — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:15:06 +0000

Congrats Ellen and Emily!! Also awesome job to Akshay and Marc.

By: Lumpee

Lumpee — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:13:22 +0000

Congrats to Liipfert, way to break bid round curse and rep Texas well.

By: Vineet and Seth

Vineet and Seth — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:48:55 +0000

Congrats on breaking the bid round curse and finals, Todd!

By: greg jeffers

greg jeffers — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:43:37 +0000

massive congrats todd

By: Varun

Varun — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:41:31 +0000

and good job d chen. you’ll break your unlucky streak soon

By: Varun

Varun — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:40:54 +0000

congrats on breaking steph and nice job bidding alan tong

By: Tauseef

Tauseef — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:39:00 +0000

congrats marc!

By: wade

wade — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:32:50 +0000

in finals ben holguin defeated todd liipfert on a 5-0 (hogan, arton, choudhury, vaughan, hertzig). congrats to all.

in semis
edina bh def. oak mountain wh 3-0 (hogan, rai, arton)
strake jesuit tl def. valley ma 2-1

great tournament. despite being single flighted it still somehow managed to run on time and ensure quality judging.