Chris Theis Wins the Heart of Texas
David Donatti and Chris Theis
DALLAS, Tex. — The St. Mark’s Heart of Texas Invitational has come to a close. One hundred competitors vied over three days for one of debate’s most storied titles and, in the end, two debaters were left standing. Apple Valley High School’s Chris Theis faced off against Strake Jesuit College Preparatory School’s David Donatti in front of a panel of Geoff Caffo, Ajay Ketkar, and Kris Wright. On a 2-1 decision — Ketkar sat out — Chris defeated David to claim Apple Valley’s second St. Mark’s title. (Coaching credits and extended results follow. I am still compiling some of the panels.)
Chris is coached by Pam Cady Wycoff, Cherian Koshy, and Tim Hogan. David is coached by Jerry Crist and Gary Johnson.
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DOUBLES
Strake Jesuit DD def. Northland Christian CN (Courtney Nunley)
2-1 (Jenn Miller, *Daryl Pinto, Tom Evnen)
St. Louis Park CT def. Strake Jesuit TL (Todd Liipfert)
3-0 (Jenn Miller, Alex Groner, Chris Castillo)
Hockaday SV def. Greenhill DS (Danielle Smogard)
2-1 (Joe Vaughan, *Brian Hogue, Brittany Paxman)
Westwood BC def. Berkeley Carroll IB (Isaac Bloch)
3-0 (Mack Coleman, Sam Duby, Kris Wright)
Blake JS def. Colleyville Heritage AB (Arti Bhatia)
2-1 (Stephen Babb, *Michael Arton, Shane O’Neal)
Elkins AC def. Lynbrook NS (Narayan Subramanian)
3-0 (Katie Dessi, Gary Johnson, Stephen Babb)
Los Altos DM def. Meadows AS (Amanda Signorelli)
3-0 (Stacy Thomas, Liz Scoggin, Ernie Rose)
Hockaday JG def. Grapevine WH (Will Hix)
3-0 (Liz Scoggin, Douglas Jeffers, Jo Russell)
Apple Valley CT def. Carnegie Vanguard RV (Rachel Vogel)
3-0 (Eric Melin, Neil Conrad, Paul Schiano)
Oak Mountain WH def. Winston Churchill PJ (Patrick Jenkins)
3-0 (Cherian Koshy, Neil Conrad, Eric Melin)
Mountain View DK def. Valley MA (Maeshal Abid)
3-0 (Dan Sheehan, Tim Hogan, Alex Smith)
Kinkaid BT def. Colleyville Heritage KA (Khurram Ali)
3-0 (Dan Sheehan, Michael Arton, Ernie Rose)
Scarsdale MH def. Greenhill LM (Lauren Mahomes)
3-0 (Kris Wright, Dan Meyers, Jon Cruz)
Scarsdale KH def. Pace AZ (Alex Zhang)
3-0 (Jon Cruz, Tim Hogan, Dan Meyers)
Strake Jesuit PT def. Hockaday LD (Lindsay Dolan)
3-0 (Tommy Clancy, Mike Mundt, Ryan Cooper)
Southlake Carroll RB def. Meadows NB (Nick Bratton)
3-0 (Stephen Hess, Tom Evnen, Tomy Clancy)
OCTAS
Apple Valley CT def. St. Louis Park CT (Catherine Tarsney)
(Stephen Hess, Tommy Clancy, Daryl Pinto)
Elkins AC def. Hockaday JG (Joan Gass)
(Shane O’Neal, Jenn Miller, Neil Conrad)
Kinkaid BT def. Westwood BC (Ben Clancy)
(Chris Castillo, Stephen Babb, Sam Duby)
Los Altos DM def. Blake JS (John Scoggin)
(Tim Hogan, Gary Johnson, Katie Dessi)
Mountain View DK def. Hockaday SV (Shivani Vohra)
(Ajay Ketkar, Ernie Rose, Ryan Cooper)
Strake Jesuit DD def. Oak Mountain WH (Wade Houston)
(Tom Evnen, Matt Wilson, Eric Melin)
Scarsdale MH def. Southlake Carroll RB (Ryan Bennett)
(Mack Coleman, Dan Meyers, Kris Wright)
Scarsdale KH def. Strake Jesuit PT (Paul Tyger)
(Adam Nelson, Cherian Koshy, Quinn Olivarez)
QUARTERS
Elkins AC def. Mountain View DK (Daniel Khalessi)
Los Altos DM def. Kinkaid BT (Becca Traber)
Strake Jesuit DD def. Scarsdale KH (Ken Hershey)
Apple Valley CT def. Scarsdale MH (Matt Hershey)
SEMIS
Strake Jesuit DD def. Elkins AC (Andrew Cockroft)
Apple Valley CT def. Los Altos DM (Daniel Moerner)
FINALS
Apple Valley CT def. Strake Jesuit DD (David Donatti)
2-1 (Geoff Caffo, Kris Wright, *Ajay Ketkar)
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1. Daniel Moerner — Los Altos High School (CA)
2. Ben Clancy — Westwood High School (TX)
3. Shivani Vohra — The Hockaday School (TX)
4. Chris Theis — Apple Valley High School (MN)
5. Joan Gass — The Hockaday School (TX)
6. Wade Houston — Oak Mountain High School (AL)
7. Lindsay Dolan — The Hockaday School (TX)
8. Maeshal Abid — Valley High School (IA)
9. David Donatti — Strake Jesuit College Preparatory School (TX)
10. Becca Traber — The Kinkaid School (TX)
11. Catherine Tarsney — St. Louis Park High School (MN)
12. Vineet Singal — The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
13. Rahim Sayani — Colleyville Heritage High School (TX)
14. Todd Liipfert — Strake Jesuit College Preparatory School (TX)
15. Courtney Nunley — Northland Christian School (TX)
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PRELIMS
Round 1
Round 2
Round 3
Round 4
Round 5
Round 6
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October 19th, 2007 10:08
[…] St. Mark’s: Live coverage has begun. […]
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October 19th, 2007 10:39
tough prelims
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October 19th, 2007 12:51
some round 3 pairings
los altos dm (aff) vs. oak mountain wh (neg)
meadows nb (aff) vs. valley ma (neg)
lynbrook ns (aff) vs. st louis park ct (neg)
hockaday jg (aff) vs. los altos jw (neg)
scarsdale mh (aff) vs. colleyville rs (neg)
scarsdale kh (aff) vs. harker dr (neg)
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October 19th, 2007 15:02
What are some records?
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October 19th, 2007 15:38
ctheis09 is 3-0
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October 19th, 2007 16:59
Vineet Singal is 3-0 going into round 4.
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October 19th, 2007 17:23
Maeshal is 3-1
Ross Brown is 4-0
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October 19th, 2007 17:24
WOOPS OTHER WAY AROUND
Maeshal is 4-0
Ross is 3-1
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October 19th, 2007 17:29
ross will dominate this year. narayan and rohit aren’t too bad either.
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October 19th, 2007 17:41
oak mountain wh 4-0
meadows nb 3-1
scarsdale mh 4-0
harker dr 3-0
northland cn 3-0
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October 19th, 2007 18:07
slp ct is 4-0
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October 19th, 2007 18:44
Elkins AC - 3-1
Dulles KG - 2-2
Dulles GJ - 2-2
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October 19th, 2007 19:01
wow those prelim rounds are intense
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October 19th, 2007 19:19
yo way to go hershey
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October 19th, 2007 19:25
you make my heart jump vineet
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October 19th, 2007 20:06
Meadows AS 3-1
Meadows NB 3-1
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October 19th, 2007 20:12
Vestavia Hills JS 3-1
Vestavia Hills RM 2-2
Pace AZ 2-2
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October 19th, 2007 20:13
scarsdalekh 4-0
scarsdalemh 3-1 *
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October 19th, 2007 20:32
slp ms 2-2
slp ct 4-0
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October 19th, 2007 20:41
jsun, attack!
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October 19th, 2007 20:49
Salado TC is 3-1
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October 19th, 2007 20:50
Those hearts that Im assuming Kiwi drew scare me.
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October 19th, 2007 21:31
Do it JSun. 07 Hess/Kwan. Ya fooo.
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October 19th, 2007 21:31
BRONX REPRESENT!
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October 19th, 2007 22:27
carnegie vanguard RV is 3-1
southlake carroll RB is 3-1
strake jesuit DD and TL are 3-1
slp MS is 3-1 i believe
westwood BC is 3-1
grapevine EA is 3-1
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October 20th, 2007 02:10
Go Salado TC. Very good debater for only a junior.
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October 20th, 2007 08:10
Some apple valley stuff..
AV CT 5-0
AV KK 4-1
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October 20th, 2007 08:14
who did ross drop to?
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October 20th, 2007 09:27
Wade is 5-0
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October 20th, 2007 10:04
rossy has dropped to meadows nick bratton and strake david donatti
maeshal is 5-0
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October 20th, 2007 10:13
Oak Mountain WH v Strake Jesuit DD round 6
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October 20th, 2007 10:23
Basketball season approaches on swift feet, like i hope and pray it will. simultaneously, st marx occurs, the hungry masses converging on the poor texas sub-urb (fun fact: OWEN WILSON WENT TO ST MARX), hoping to win some hardware. personally, i hold nothing against the tournament for refusing me entry (warranted due to yours truly’s problem with deadlines), and in fact, the raw coke (turns into coal, not a deviated septum) created by my loss of st marx will serve to power a locomotive of desire straight into the heart of the debate community. THIS IS NOT A PREDICTION, IT IS ONTOLOGICAL FACT.
Pre-season thoughts for no records, Dwight “Dwiggy” Howard? Has a nice ring to it, like something a bare-foot child born in the spastic throws of San Fransisco might consider its own. Conflicting enough to be memorable/ironically amusing, and we all know irony solves for the im(pending) post(data) global know-lo-caust. Debate requires a color commentator so to speak, someone to fill the voids between academic thought and shit-talk @ locations undisclosed. Perhaps one among the ranks of the disgruntled can fill that void, become famous through their wit and skill and brutal dissection of what makes us all tick. Until the chosen one fills that void as if to expand like the consciousness of Timothy Leary made of play-doh, i will strive to square peg-round hole this shit. debate gonzo journalism is born, a strident fuck you to our predecessors (HST, KK, TW?, RF, JK, WB, AG, etc) while at the same time retaining that lovable smile and lack of integrity. what better way to report than as someone with a stake in the game? someone who feels the gnawing hunger of competition from within?
i heard tell that one jake gelfand (oh he of the vibe fame, eminently good work in my opinion, hilarious and continuously more than worthy of my time) was a reporter of sorts in a past life, drawing on the collectively amusing in order to deliver THE TRUTH to the masses. unfortunately, i am unaware of any current attempts to revive said writings in the current futurepast. in lieu of such circumstances, skip that kanye west track kiddies, El Dr. is screeching into town, whirlwind of excess and consumption (albertson’s and fred meyer at 2 in the morning, whole roast chickens and expandos full of love, mt dew GAME FUEL, candy, cookies, reams of white paper, blood on my white shirt, tie askew, spewing self-hate and epithets at the sky), bringing you the finest in the tournaments i attend, up to date and inaccurate reportage not fit for broadcast. i/we fully intend on posting up hearsay, counter-fact, narrative, and perhaps occasional rants on anything/everything i can scrounge up at a tournament. be there or be square.
feel free to submit ideas for tournaments i do not attend, but first get yerself in the frame of mind by watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79×7_iOaDXg
POST-REVOLUTION, PRE-POSITION
-RGKN
Post script for VBD: I root for no-one but, if i did, i would go for the is, butt, bossy ross, WHat?, the mechanic, my giant, uptempo jim o-brien, but not Daedalus of he of the tiny Deacon
Posted from: 12.216.111.70
October 20th, 2007 11:05
rebar, you spit hot fire
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October 20th, 2007 11:37
matt hershey is 5-1
maeshal ahad abid is 6-0
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October 20th, 2007 11:39
More records?? Round 6 pairings?
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October 20th, 2007 11:44
Los Altos DM 5-1
Mountain View DK 4-2
Hockaday LD 5-1
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October 20th, 2007 12:54
New Trier AZ is 3-3
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October 20th, 2007 13:23
Rossy drops to Shivani :(
Butt 6-0
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October 20th, 2007 15:19
daniel moerner is top speaker. i’m 6th. i think chris theis is 4th.
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October 20th, 2007 15:21
Churchill PJ (Patrick Jenkins) is debating Wade Houston in front of Conrad, Melin, and Koshy (I think Cherian).
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October 20th, 2007 15:21
dfk over maeshal 3-0 smitty sheehan and hogan
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October 20th, 2007 15:42
DFK for the bid!!
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October 20th, 2007 15:44
NO BUTT NOOOO.
i will mourn your death as if it were baron davis’ knee.
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October 20th, 2007 15:44
dfk, congrats, you def did it finall from camp till now good work
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October 20th, 2007 15:53
congrats to DFK. don’t mind spirtos’ incomprehensible post—I’m sure he’s happy for you too.
Posted from: 216.138.69.138
October 20th, 2007 16:00
I picked up on a 3-0 over Meadows AS
Matt Hershey, John Scoggin, Paul Tyger, Shivani Vohra, and Theis also all bid.
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October 20th, 2007 16:02
I love Matt hershey
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October 20th, 2007 16:03
yay ctheis09
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October 20th, 2007 16:03
Me and David Donatti won our doubles rounds, panels, me: Babb Arton *Oneal, Donatti: Miller *Pinto Evnen
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October 20th, 2007 16:03
SCOGGIN.
Congrats to Chris, Shivani, and Paul as well.
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October 20th, 2007 16:09
scogs the second gits it.
DFK i is happy for you, i is divorcing that from my thoughts about butt’s loss.
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October 20th, 2007 16:24
DFK - you are the man. Heavy congrats.
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October 20th, 2007 16:30
DFK finally broke the 4-2 screw curse. way to go.
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October 20th, 2007 16:42
wade def. jenkins
Great showing Jenkins this is your break out tourney dude. Hold your head high because you clawed your way back into this one and shouldnt be disappointed.
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October 20th, 2007 17:17
Congrats to DFK, Paul, Shivani, CTheis, and Scoggin on bidding!
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October 20th, 2007 17:36
Congrats Chris on the full qual!
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October 20th, 2007 17:49
Catherine, congrats on qualling, and on the speaker award - good going!
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October 20th, 2007 17:50
Daniel Moerner — Colleyville Heritage High School (TX)
that’s wrong. :P
congrats to NSD ppl, way to dominate.
Posted from: 75.73.208.213
October 20th, 2007 17:51
Whoops, forgot to say congrats to Catherine too on the bid! :) Way to go
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October 20th, 2007 18:19
Congrats Scoggin on the Bid!!! (Was hoping for him to collapse this year, and to step up and qualify for the TOC, but as it appears that won’t happen, I’m glad he got a bid)
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October 20th, 2007 18:28
congrats lindsay and joan on breaking:-)
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October 20th, 2007 18:29
congrats rachel on clearing at 4 tournaments in a row, and your 2nd bid round. you’ll get it, you just gotta break the curse.
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October 20th, 2007 18:44
Congrats to the Hersheys. Swt job.
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October 20th, 2007 19:02
the hersheys are hella tight
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October 20th, 2007 19:05
khalessi wins his octs round on a 2-1
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October 20th, 2007 19:07
I love butt
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October 20th, 2007 19:08
and moerner won on a 3-0
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October 20th, 2007 19:35
congrats to ben clancy, super nice, super pro
congrats to rachel vogel on her 2nd bid round
and congrats to ryan bennet on his bid!
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October 20th, 2007 19:43
congrats to arti, rahim and khurram for breaking =) you guys are amazing!
same goes to ryan for his bid!
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October 20th, 2007 19:56
great job on the break and speaker award, lindsay.
and congrats on 12th speaker, vineet.
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October 20th, 2007 19:57
andrew cockroft
matt hershey
ken hershey
david donatti
daniel moerner
chris theis
becca traber
daniel khalessi
that’s quarters, or so i’m told
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October 20th, 2007 20:21
“Daniel Moerner — Colleyville Heritage High School (TX)”
hm…
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October 20th, 2007 20:29
narayan up top.
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October 20th, 2007 21:16
ctheis09 for the win!
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October 20th, 2007 22:36
Hershey close out.
I called it.
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October 20th, 2007 22:45
I want to send a major congratulations to the Hershey brothers, especially to Matt on his first career bid. In addition to the standard stuff – you guys have worked so hard, you guys totally deserve it, etc. – I want to add that you guys are just awesome. I’ve really enjoyed getting to know both of you over the past few years- you were great to travel with during my senior year, you both have great senses of humor, and I can’t emphasize enough how much I admire your relationship as brothers.
Regardless of what happens tomorrow, it’s been a breakout performance for both of you and I’m very happy and proud. Good luck tmrw.
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October 20th, 2007 23:22
Congrats Wade and David
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October 20th, 2007 23:48
quarters / semis pairings will be:
the winner of david donnatti v. ken hershey, will hit the winner of daniel khalessi v. andrew cockroft; that is one bracket
the other side of the bracket:
the winner of matt hershey v. chris theis, will hit the winner of becca traber v. daniel moerner.
lets go houston close-out
oh yeah major congrats to courtney nunley on an awesome performance at this tournament, todd on another bid round, paul on the bid, david and becca on more bids, alex zhang on the bid round, cockroft on finishing his qual in the first topic (keep up the wins), arti, ben on finishing his qual, isaac bloch on the bid round, scarsdale and hockaday for continuing such strong showings, and ryan bennett of course on the break out performance, congrats on the bid.
despite my hatred for dallas, the dallas tournaments end up being a lot of fun.
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October 21st, 2007 02:23
DANIEL FKING KHALESSI
very nice
i love how ernie’s nickname for you has caught on so much… now everyone on vbd is saying “DFK”
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October 21st, 2007 06:20
Los Altos DM v Kinkaid BT (Evnen, Stacy, Pinto)
Mountain View DK v Elkins AC (G. Johnson, C. Koshy, Cooper)
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October 21st, 2007 06:42
great job on the speaker award vineet!
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October 21st, 2007 07:34
go cockroft. you’re so freaking amazing.
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October 21st, 2007 08:20
cockroft vs. donatti in one semis round
theis vs. winner of becca/moerner in the other semis
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October 21st, 2007 08:30
win it david
and congrats to paul, vineet, and isaac
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October 21st, 2007 08:33
moerner vs. theis
donatti vs. cockroft
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October 21st, 2007 08:57
good work brothers hershey
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October 21st, 2007 10:33
nice.
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October 21st, 2007 10:40
wow…hersheys domination
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October 21st, 2007 11:04
various results:
finals is chris theis vs. david donatti. i know two of the judges are caffo and wright but i’m not sure about the third one.
semis:
apple valley ct def. los altos dm 2-1 (wright, johnson, *cooper)
strake jesuit dd def. elkins ac 2-1
quarters:
elkins ac def. mountain view dk 3-0
los altos dm def. kinkaid bt 2-1 (evnen, pinto, *thomas)
strake jesuit dd def. scarsdale kh 3-0 (ketkar, melin, ??)
apple valley ct def. scarsdale mh 3-0 (hess, sheehan, ??)
octas:
mountain view dk def. hockaday sv 2-1 (rose, cooper, *ketkar)
strake jesuit dd def. oak mountain wh 2-1 (melin, wilson, *evnen)
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October 21st, 2007 11:17
ummmm, do you know who Strake DD is?!
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October 21st, 2007 11:32
David Donatti
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October 21st, 2007 11:53
Congrats Becca, Chris, Ben, Catherine, and Joan
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October 21st, 2007 11:54
congratulations DFK, theis, moerner, wade
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October 21st, 2007 11:57
THEIS!
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October 21st, 2007 11:57
2-1 for Chris in finals!
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October 21st, 2007 12:00
congrats theis
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October 21st, 2007 12:06
theistheistheistheistheisctheis
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October 21st, 2007 12:09
congrats chris
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October 21st, 2007 12:09
ctheis09 is my hero, for numerous reasons
Posted from: 70.14.239.217
October 21st, 2007 12:21
congrats chris and david. i enoyed watching both of you this weekend.
special congrats to ryan bennett on his first bid…it been a long time coming.
don’t worry will and danielle i am sure you will get yours soon
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October 21st, 2007 12:31
CHRIS THEIS!
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October 21st, 2007 13:07
Becca is still the best debater in the world.
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October 21st, 2007 13:10
ctheis09 wins it all. congrats to both former labmates.
Posted from: 70.251.148.156
October 21st, 2007 13:15
donnatti good run. cockroft i love you.
Posted from: 208.54.95.190
October 21st, 2007 13:34
even though andrew cockroft was in semis he is still a huge tool
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October 21st, 2007 13:39
Congrats to Chris, Becca, Wade, Ben, Catherine and Joan
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October 21st, 2007 13:56
Congrats David, Ben, Joan, Becca, DFK, Moerner, and Isaac
Posted from: 67.8.227.203
October 21st, 2007 14:00
congrats theis, ken, and david
Posted from: 68.48.175.11
October 21st, 2007 14:17
Congrats to Theis and the AV crew! And of course, to Mr. Bennett and Melin on the first bid! Wish we could’ve been there.
Posted from: 75.73.208.213
October 21st, 2007 14:22
congrats chris!!
Posted from: 68.192.165.197
October 21st, 2007 14:23
Congrats Ken on the Bid!
Posted from: 75.73.214.91
October 21st, 2007 14:25
Word to the brothaz Hershey, Wade, DFK, and Theis.
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October 21st, 2007 14:26
post 76-can I get a no donatti?
post 105-lulz
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October 21st, 2007 14:32
congrats to Matt and Ken
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October 21st, 2007 14:50
And sorry if anyone’s already posted this, but these are all the ballots for all the rounds:
http://www.joyoftournaments.com/tx/stmarks/info.asp?p=11
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October 21st, 2007 15:06
THE IS?
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October 21st, 2007 15:49
If anyone from NFA reads this. I was curious if it was Boardwalk.
Posted from: 69.151.222.38
October 21st, 2007 15:54
Good job Chris and David.
Posted from: 67.66.212.121
October 21st, 2007 16:37
to post 105:
Damn i never knew i was a tool, but ok.
and good variation of the name….never heard someone call me softcock before…i understand the genius of it becuase u switch the syllables and then change roft to SOFT, as in not hard, which would be a woody…i get it.
hope this didnt sound too testy…HA get it
Posted from: 68.92.35.12
October 21st, 2007 16:45
i think the biggest problem is that you don’t really have to do anything to cockroft’s name to joke about it.
Posted from: 63.246.171.93
October 21st, 2007 16:52
!!
Congrats to Chris Theis, Cockroft, Shivani, Ben, Paul, and Catherine on the 2nd bids.
Ben Clancy I
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October 21st, 2007 16:55
For some bizzare reason my previous message got cut off it was supposed to end like this:
Ben Clancy I
Posted from: 67.66.212.121
October 21st, 2007 17:00
this is true..if u just add a word to the end like calling me “cocktable” is a good one, or just any random word to the end is satisfactory….OR u could do some reference to the phallus, for instance u could just call me cockdick as that seems to be pretty funny as well. OR just start refering to me only by name the phallus…OR u call me cockroach but people have not done that for years now.
So basically my last names spawns creativity. so if brilliance strikes u with another linguistic gift please be sure to tell me becuase i feel i have heard all of them.
PS. screw u john :)
Posted from: 149.68.58.124
October 21st, 2007 17:15
lawrence elkins high school repazent’n
Posted from: 68.11.77.114
October 21st, 2007 17:25
conrats, dd, for making it to finals.
Posted from: 68.48.79.240
October 21st, 2007 17:34
Way to be, Chris Theis.
Posted from: 69.151.107.192
October 21st, 2007 17:46
i don’t get why, despite cockroft’s awesome achievements this year, people have to hate. like, whoever the guy is calling him a tool, obviously a. doesn’t know cockroft, and b. is hating just to hate. he had an awesome run at this tournament, is a nice kid, and doesn’t deserve people being a dick to him.
Posted from: 76.167.133.248
October 21st, 2007 18:05
Nice job David and Chris!
Posted from: 68.117.53.139
October 21st, 2007 18:28
Nice job to Ryan repping UNT, Cathrine and John for repping MN, DFK for his bid and for being DFK, and finally to Chris for winning it all.
Posted from: 71.247.242.115
October 21st, 2007 18:37
congrats to the hersheys, especially matt on his first bid.
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
October 21st, 2007 18:40
to post 119 & 123-I really think soft-cock is much more clever than any of the ones you previously mentioned, cockroach would be funny if we were all in 5th grade, but of those mentioned, I for one think softcock is the funniest variation on your last name
Posted from: 74.68.51.212
October 21st, 2007 18:55
no offense to anyone whatsoever, but…
post 127 is the funniest:
“b. is hating just to hate. he had an awesome run at this tournament, is a nice kid, and doesn’t deserve people being a *dick* to him. “
Posted from: 98.195.158.183
October 21st, 2007 19:15
Congrats to David and Andrew for representing H-town so well. Great job.
Posted from: 67.66.212.121
October 21st, 2007 19:32
ive heard softcock in the fifth grade too..just as kids learned that cock, while also meaning chicken means penis (ya who wouldve thunk it). So softcock is not a stroke of genius…do u get it stroke HA…God, penis humor is so damn original and funny
and i dont think u can really make a determination on which variation is funnier becuase i GAURUNTEE that u have heard every single one. If u hav actually sat down and came up with everyone u can think of, and then made a determination that, yes, SOFTCOCK is the funniest, then power to you….But u couldnt possibly have done this becuase there are literally hundreds of names.
if such humor continues to persist, i think i might have to just change my last name to Penis…then maybe the joke will end becuase its just too damn obvious. and if u do make fun of the name, ur not original, uve just joined one of the many people to have the idea float in there brain that cock does mean penia and ur poetic mind manifested a penis variation of somethin and then laughed like a fifth grader when the teacher said penis as a scientific term.
But if u are to make fun of it, be original or something. If it helps, the origion on of my last name makes it mean “chicken farmer.” If penis jokes continue to persist then ur not tryin hard enough (o get it, like dicks can be hard too). truely new ones will actually make me kinda happy becuase itll give me somethin to do, in coming up with comebacks or just being angry.
And if when i was saying “coming” made u giggle in correlation with me saying things about the phallus then u did get it.
and to post 132: that was pretty ironic and ill give it to u
Posted from: 76.30.71.86
October 21st, 2007 19:34
good job andrew. the return of the local hero.
Posted from: 98.197.93.55
October 21st, 2007 20:02
thats right cock
tell them who’s the big boss
=]
Posted from: 68.209.198.15
October 21st, 2007 20:03
“He did not ask in cross ex for the status of the counterplan. It is a conditional counterplan. I am kicking it and the turns are gone.”
Greatest strategy ever.
Posted from: 166.90.246.146
October 21st, 2007 20:05
Congrats to Catherine on the qual.
Posted from: 69.151.222.38
October 21st, 2007 20:21
you’re a good man andrew cockroft.
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
October 21st, 2007 20:23
to post 134- I actually came up with 672 variations on your last name, and “huge tool” is the funniest. Because cock can be called a tool, and roft means huge in ebonics, soo it’s HILARIOUS because, like your name means huge tool, and you…well you get the implication homie.
Posted from: 67.66.212.121
October 21st, 2007 20:31
672 variations…nice.
never knew that “roft” meant huge in ebonics. good job creative, original. u get a gold star in class today
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
October 21st, 2007 20:37
What class am I enrolled in Mr. Hugetool? Can I please have a copy of the syllabus and the recommended reading? When is the mid-term due? Is class a necessary requirement?
SARCASM EXISTS OUTSIDE OF HOUSTON!?!?! OH NOOOOOO000!!
Posted from: 63.246.171.93
October 21st, 2007 20:38
…
I can’t tell if Cockroft is bitter about all the collective years of ridicule about his name, or if he really loves talking about because its a sure-fire funny conversation starter that he knows alot about.
I wonder what Pappa Cock’s high school experience was like in terms of his name…
Posted from: 146.151.54.129
October 21st, 2007 20:39
god chris theis rules. i want to marry him.
Posted from: 67.66.212.121
October 21st, 2007 20:41
To answer devin, my father’s name is randall so we can just extrapolate from there
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
October 21st, 2007 20:46
144-no natti? right?
145-….on that note, I’m going to bed
Posted from: 69.118.235.253
October 21st, 2007 20:52
hahaha wade it was the best strategy of all time.
Posted from: 69.118.235.253
October 21st, 2007 21:15
COUNT IT
Posted from: 75.31.99.226
October 21st, 2007 22:21
hahahaha randall cockroft
like grand ‘ol cock…
cockroft loses.
sean wynn wynns.
Posted from: 75.73.214.91
October 21st, 2007 23:06
Uhh ‘roft’ means ‘huge’ in ebonics?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=roft
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
October 21st, 2007 23:11
yea grimstad, since urban dictionary is definitely a credible source when it comes to ebony phonics, If even you, Grimstad, could edit an entry on urbandictionary that pretty much moots it as a source on black culture.
Love you grin*** no donatti.
Posted from: 70.112.179.91
October 21st, 2007 23:39
“What class am I enrolled in Mr. Hugetool? Can I please have a copy of the syllabus and the recommended reading? When is the mid-term due? Is class a necessary requirement?”
this wasn’t funny.
Posted from: 68.48.79.240
October 21st, 2007 23:56
I already said this once, but way to go Chris.
Posted from: 69.111.36.107
October 21st, 2007 23:59
Andy C’roft: Cock Raider.
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
October 22nd, 2007 05:16
John Lews, It was SOO EFFIN FUNNY TO ME!!!……but on that note, who are YOU?
Posted from: 66.108.94.165
October 22nd, 2007 08:15
Congratulations to Chris and David on making it to finals! A special shoutout as well to Andrew Cockroft on a serious breakout performance.
I’d also like to congratulate Bronx Science’s Andrew Markoff and Regan Bozman on making it to finals in the St. Mark’s Hoedown; Andrew and Regan were the top seed, and the top two speakers, and will debate the round with Bishop Guertin Monday afternoon at the Glenbrooks. (Thank you to Tim Mahoney and Aaron Kall for being so accommodating, as both Bronx Science and Bishop Guertin had flights to catch.)
Posted from: 149.68.58.124
October 22nd, 2007 11:28
call me naïve and old-fashioned, but i prefer the now-weathered “crockpot.”
seriously, congratulations to andrew.
Posted from: 65.125.82.250
October 22nd, 2007 12:34
in response to 147,
Yeah matt, it was definitely unexpected. I’ve seen NC’s kicked before, but a counterplan….absolutely shocking.
Posted from: 207.80.127.240
October 22nd, 2007 13:26
Todd Liipfert is welcome to suck my sack.
Posted from: 69.118.235.253
October 22nd, 2007 13:26
haha dude we were joking about the way i worded it…chill.
Posted from: 75.73.208.213
October 22nd, 2007 13:55
get out of here greenfield, chris theis is MINE
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
October 22nd, 2007 14:11
There’s so many things going on in this thread I couldn’t possibly hate on all of you. However, Re:159 and 161=no natti right?
Posted from: 76.186.234.115
October 22nd, 2007 16:01
I know man, I’m just messing with you. Remember, we still love each other despite any in round animosity we might have displayed.
And yeah, i’m not going to lie it was funny shit when you said it.
Posted from: 75.73.214.91
October 22nd, 2007 18:20
Damn it Sean shut up about ‘no natti’ it’s not funny/cool/cute.
Posted from: 98.197.211.14
October 22nd, 2007 18:45
sean, what is ‘no natti?’
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
October 22nd, 2007 19:26
1. grimstad…choose your battles…
2. David-it is a joke “no naughty” but since you have done some naughty things(see:quarters of ghill) we shortened it to no natti.
Posted from: 71.170.156.49
October 22nd, 2007 19:44
While good natured can the lewd and inappropriate jokes/comments please be bantered about in a more private forum?
I am no prude but come on now…
Posted from: 68.11.77.114
October 22nd, 2007 20:06
The problem with this website is that, for the most part, the people who let their record do their talking speak little, but those who “no wynnie” much can’t shut it for three minutes. I cannot believe that you cannot figure out how idiotic, unintelligent, and uncaring you sound. Grow up, man.
Posted from: 75.73.49.180
October 22nd, 2007 20:14
I’d argue that the high point of this weekend was the bird-man of Daniel Garber during Cross-x in round 6.
Posted from: 12.216.111.70
October 22nd, 2007 20:29
‘tired of your shit’ has the same ip as ‘travis smith’.
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
October 22nd, 2007 20:30
If you have a problem with me….why use a different name man? Or at least humor me with like a different IP Travis.
Posted from: 12.216.111.70
October 22nd, 2007 20:31
I think that might have been snitchin but the ip is on the page so idk
Posted from: 66.233.57.238
October 22nd, 2007 20:36
I WON THE BELT. HAVE I EARNED THE RIGHT TO TALK?
you’re an asshole. plain and simple. i hate to resort to ad hominems, but A. its true and B. you probably won’t understand a reasoned complaint against your conduct. anyway, here it is:
this is exactly the sort of behavior that i feel VBD and the activity should try to fight. debate is a social activity, and we should encourage everyone to speak and share their viewpoint, even if it is just a silly joke on a message board. there is a reason this activity is declining in participation, and if it takes message boards to solve it, so be it. does that mean that every kid who wished their friend or teammate good luck doesn’t count either unless they’ve won something too? sean wynn is funny, and if you don’t think so, you’re welcome to that opinion, but you don’t have to be an asshole about it.
people who are good at the activity don’t speak, and i think that’s a good point.but i don’t think its a good thing. perhaps we are all too mired in the cult of personality to realize that debate is about more than just winning, its about a social community and academic experience that treats every high schooler with a dream and determination as an equal. everyone should speak. i wish we were all as vocal as sean wynn. he’s a great friend, a great influence on the activity, and god forbid someone actually develop personality or panache in debate. that would be like, the worst thing ever. almost as bad as if we let minorities in, right?
Posted from: 76.167.133.248
October 22nd, 2007 22:10
Before this thread gets even less constructive, I’d ask people to check their online behavior.
These boards are read by parents and school administrators. Many of these comments reflect very poorly on all of us.
Please stop.
Posted from: 75.73.214.91
October 22nd, 2007 22:39
I miss the days of the 350+ post thread that resulted from Michael Mangus’s victory at Glenbrooks two years ago.
Posted from: 69.151.107.192
October 22nd, 2007 23:10
there’s a difference between panache and being a jerk. not saying sean wynn is being a jerk, but calling people tools and underhandedly calling people bad at the activity is distinctly different from either a. banter or b. constructive criticism. the people with their names at the top of this thread did really well this past weekend and deserve to have their accomplishments applauded, not marred by those who like to name-call, or bash in general. i think that’s a fair claim.
Posted from: 76.30.71.86
October 22nd, 2007 23:30
from someone who did a lot of what sean wynn and crew are doing now back in the day of lddebate.org, my advice would be to stop the dumb comments. i mean, at least put them on “the ld boards” in one of the forums no one but the ones interested in bad jokes will read. most of the people who came to read the results of st. marks don’t care about your juvenile jokes or those defending the jokes with crap about “everyone needs a voice” and “lets show love to dumb, insulting, and pointless comments”
Posted from: 71.139.7.39
October 23rd, 2007 07:45
Maybe it will get changed if I ask…
I do not go to Colleyville Heritage. I go to Los Altos.
Posted from: 66.108.94.165
October 23rd, 2007 08:50
I am only now reading through all of the comments on this thread, as Josh Anderson dropped me a line alerting to me what was going on here.
This page is actually not accessible through one of the office computers at Bronx Science because the language on this thread was filtered. Lovely.
Josh and AT are right, particularly about how poorly some of the humor — a term I use loosely here — reflects upon the posters and the activity. Parents read these threads.
Sorry about the typo, Daniel.
Posted from: 207.235.225.1
October 23rd, 2007 11:23
Please stop. While I am not a regular visitor to this site, I do have a vested interest that it remain professional. The reason I have a vested interest is that I have very active parents who not only know about Victory Briefs Daily, but regularly read it. I was prompted to post by an email that I just got from one of my debate mom’s that asked if this site was filtered from our school district because of the language. Come on folks - please. We are supposed to be experts and language use. There is a time and a place for raw humor, but not on a public forum such as this.
Posted from: 66.233.57.238
October 23rd, 2007 13:20
i don’t support inappropriate comments in public places that would reflect badly on us.
Posted from: 164.58.68.3
October 23rd, 2007 13:42
This is redic
Posted from: 169.133.140.6
October 23rd, 2007 13:58
I want to congratulate members of the Massey, Rai, and Diehl lab who performed well at Marx. Two in quarters is pretty incredible - way to go Mershey and DFK. I’d also like to give big ups to Nick Bratton for his dubs showing who continues to impress even at an early age.
Keep it up!
michelinmassey.
Posted from: 206.77.0.156
October 23rd, 2007 15:21
Congrats Chris!!! You’re such an awesome debater! Also, a huge amount of admiration goes out to David, Andrew (that was the funniest semis round ever), Becca, Catherine, Ben, Ryan, Isaac, Paul (thanks for the explanation of that RFD, dude), Todd, Moerner (although your web taste is a bit odd!), Wade, Maeshal, all the awesome Hockadaisies: Lindsay, Shivani, and Joan (you guys are my favorite people in the world!!! plus Ms.Thomas, too!!! and Tom!), Arti, and Rahim. And everyone else, too! : ) I love you guys!!!
Posted from: 71.139.7.39
October 23rd, 2007 16:36
I think Wade deserves a bit of credit too.
Posted from: 128.101.49.63
October 23rd, 2007 17:46
and exclamation points!!!
Posted from: 128.62.178.250
October 23rd, 2007 21:12
there were so many swt args in semis it was insane. more importantly, congrats to everyone who cleared, everyone was incredibly talented
Posted from: 171.64.138.15
October 23rd, 2007 22:20
YAH WOO DEBATE YEAH
never saw this crockroft guy but props for running nietzsche. ld has some serious philosophical issues to deal with. i mean we could “maintain the integrity” of the activity by ignoring them but i think moral skepticism is a good thing to know how to respond to - with something other than the BUT GENOCIDE IS IMMORAL response. or theory. theory is being used to exclude all sorts of good arguments. i dont mean to say that i think multiple short a prioris are good for debate (because i dont) but the idea that the neg has to defend a normative statement (in this case that we ought to use the death penalty) is a pretty arbitrary burden to hand out. the idea that it is morally reprehensible to use the death penalty is also an assumption in the resolution. so when people are like OH DEAR attacking assumptions is bad - nietzsche is illegit - i think that its important to notice that the other option - to say that the death penalty is moral - is also just attacking an assumption in the statement. attacking multiple assumptions may be bad for theoretical reasons but JUST attacking the assumption that morality has some objective content does not seem unfair at all - just unconventional perhaps.
Posted from: 206.77.0.156
October 24th, 2007 11:15
Okay, you’re right Moerner. Wade, your taste is odd.
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
October 24th, 2007 11:59
Can someone describe how the Nietzsche position was run that S Hess refers to?
Also, what were the positions in semis? It seems like if we are to the point in LD where we are kicking counterplans in the NR that ae turned and running lots of K’s etc, perhaps its to talk more about the specifics of arguments in these big debates. Anyone game?
Just my thoughts.
Timmons
Posted from: 70.241.91.37
October 24th, 2007 13:47
The case basically stated that the truth of the resolution cannot be evaluated because theres no ability to create conceptual truth, mostly centered around the inability to describe the true essence of things, which would be considered real truth…(in a nutshell)
Posted from: 71.82.3.64
October 24th, 2007 13:55
On the kicked counterplan - I believe what happened is that the NC reserved the right to clarify the status of the counterplan but the aff did not ask about it in CX. Had the aff asked, it is likely that the counterplan would have been clarified as being dispositional. The NR decided the counterplan was conditional so it was able to get out of turns by kicking the counterplan.
Posted from: 130.58.194.189
October 25th, 2007 10:53
which is really funny.
since my last post for some reason or another didnt appear:
congrats wade for rolling through prelims, chris for winning, moerner for speaking pretty, dfk on repping berroweeks, and cockroft for repping the Nietzsche. Sorry for seeming accusatory at the tourn, and congrats on the breakout(altho i think it’s funny that finals of one of the year’s hardest semis bids isnt considered breaking out).
btw, if you dont wanta have to debate the Nietzsche K, then dont make assumptions that make your ac link. it’s not that hard. i promise. (note that the unjust=deficient in justice is not a very good way to do this)
Posted from: 130.58.194.189
October 25th, 2007 10:58
also, travis smith (as far as i know) is from new orleans jesuit, which has a hell of a lot of kids in it. Just because some kid posts something asinine from the N.O. jesuit ip doesnt give you liscense to hate on a good guy. btw the “oh snap i gotcha! i got your ip harharhar” thing makes you look like a huge tool.
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