Jake Nebel is Greenhill Champion
David McNeil and Jake Nebel
ADDISON, Tex. — The Greenhill Fall Classic concluded with an epic clash between Trinity Preparatory School’s Jake Nebel and Edina High School’s David McNeil. The face-off took place in a room that was described at the outset as a place in which many epic debates had occured in the past. A panel of Chris Castillo, Anjan Choudhury, Wesley Craven, Jon Cruz, and Cherian Koshy adjudicated. The members of the panel voted unanimously and awarded this year’s Greenhill title to Jake. Congratulations to both debaters! (Full results and coaching credits are also available.)
Jake is coached by Petey Gil-Montllor and Darcy Butrimas. David is coached by Jessica Bailey and Jake Gelfand.
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(33) St. Louis Park CT (Catherine Tarsney)
DOUBLES
(1) Hockaday JG def. (32) Carnegie Vanguard RV (Rachel Vogel)
3-0 (Stephen Babb, Liz Scoggin, Kristen Ray)
(2) Trinity Prep JN def. (31) Bellaire MA (Muthu Alagappan)
2-1 (Wesley Craven, *Andy Werner, Nathan Abell)
(3) Westwood BC def. (30) James Logan SS (Shahbaz Shaikh)
3-0 (Josh Anderson, Ryan Cooper, Kris Wright)
(4) Oak Mountain WH def. (29) New Trier BM (Brian McDonald)
2-1 (Anjan Choudhury, Chris Castillo, *Johanna Tyler)
(5) Westlake DR def. (28) Colleyville Heritage RS (Rahim Sayani)
3-0 (Neil Conrad, David Wolfish, Jo Russell)
(6) Hockaday LD def. (27) Walt Whitman EN (Ellen Noble)
2-1 (Josh Anderson, *Ryan Cooper, Kris Wright)
(26) Strake Jesuit PT def. (7) Scarsdale NL (Nikita Lalwani)
3-0 (Tom Evnen, Mack Coleman, Tommy Clancy)
(25) Edina BH def. (8) Sacred Heart SZ (Shadman Zaman)
3-0 (Anjan Choudhury, Chris Castillo, Johanna Tyler)
(24) Hockaday SV def. (9) Valley MA (Maeshal Abid)
2-1 (Eric Melin, *Dan Meyers, Shane O’Neal)
(10) Strake Jesuit DD def. (23) Torrey Pines VF (Vivian Feig)
3-0 (Ernie Rose, Petey Gil-Montllor, Sarah Smith)
(22) Apple Valley CT def. (11) Hockaday KF (Kathleen French)
3-0 (Eric Melin, Dan Meyers, Shane O’Neal)
(21) James Logan BM def. (12) Colleyville Heritage AB (Arti Bhatia)
2-1 (Neil Conrad, David Wolfish, *Jo Russell)
(20) Mountain View DG def. (13) Trinity Prep RS (Ravi Sankar)
2-1 (Wesley Craven, *Andy Werner, Nathan Abell)
(14) Marcus VH def. (19) Southlake Carroll RB (Ryan Bennett)
2-1 (*Stephen Babb, Liz Scoggin, Kristen Ray)
(18) Kinkaid BT def. (15) Lexington JZ (Jason Zhou)
3-0 (Tom Evnen, Mack Coleman, Tommy Clancy)
(17) Edina DM def. (16) Strake Jesuit TL (Todd Liipfert)
2-1 (Ernie Rose, *Petey Gil-Montllor, Sarah Smith)
OCTAS
(17) Edina DM def. (1) Hockaday JG (Joan Gass)
2-1 (*Anjan Choudhury, Kris Wright, Jon Cruz)
(2) Trinity Prep JN def. (18) Kinkaid BT (Becca Traber)
3-0 (Eric Melin, Liz Scoggin, Cherian Koshy)
(3) Westwood BC def. (14) Marcus VH (Vivian Ho)
2-1 (Ryan Cooper, *Stacy Thomas, Chad Henson)
(4) Oak Mountain WH def. (20) Mountain View DG (Daniel Garber)
2-1 (Tom Evnen, Petey Gil-Montllor, *Tim Hogan)
(21) James Logan BM de. (5) Westlake DR (Devin Race)
2-1 (*Andy Werner, Geoff Caffo, David Wolfish)
(22) Apple Valley CT def. (6) Hockaday LD (Lindsay Dolan)
2-1 (Neil Conrad, Dan Meyers, *Jake Gelfand)
(10) Strake Jesuit DD over (26) Strake Jesuit PT (Paul Tyger)
(24) Hockaday SV def. (25) Edina BH (Ben Holguin)
2-1 (*Wesley Craven, Stephen Hess, Ernie Rose)
QUARTERS
(17) Edina DM def. (24) Hockaday SV (Shivani Vohra)
2-1 (Kris Wright, Anjan Choudhury, *Stephen Hess)
(2) Trinity Prep JN def. (10) Strake Jesuit DD (David Donatti)
2-1 (Tom Evnen, *Geoff Caffo, Jake Gelfand)
(3) Westwood BC def. (22) Apple Valley CT (Chris Theis)
3-0 (Andy Werner, Ryan Cooper, David Wolfish)
(24) James Logan BM def. (4) Oak Mountain WH (Wade Houston)
3-0 (Petey Gil-Montllor, Cherian Koshy, Tim Hogan)
SEMIS
(17) Edina DM def. (24) James Logan BM (Bilal Malik)
3-2 (Petey Gil-Montllor, Chad Henson, Anjan Choudhury, *Andy Werner, *Tim Hogan)
(2) Trinity Prep JN def. (3) Westwood BC (Ben Clancy)
5-0 (Stacy Thomas, Jon Cruz, Wesley Craven, Tom Evnen, Cherian Koshy)
FINALS
(2) Trinity Prep JN def. (17) Edina DM (David McNeil)
5-0 (Chris Castillo, Anjan Choudhury, Jon Cruz, Wesley Craven, Cherian Koshy)
CHAMPION
(2) Trinity Prep JN (Jake Nebel)
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TOP SPEAKERS
1. Joan Gass — The Hockaday School (TX)
2. Devin Race — Westlake High School (TX)
3. Jake Nebel — Trinity Preparatory School (FL)
4. Lindsay Dolan — The Hockaday School (TX)
5. Todd Liipfert — Strake Jesuit College Preparatory School (TX)
6. Shadman Zaman — Sacred Heart High School (MA)
7. Becca Traber — The Kinkaid School (TX)
8. Nikita Lalwani — Scarsdale High School (NY)
9. David McNeil — Edina High School (MN)
10. Ryan Bennett — Southlake Carroll High School (TX)
11. Maeshal Abid — Valley High School (IA)
12. Ben Clancy – Westwood High School (TX)
13. Kathleen French — The Hockaday School (TX)
14. Daniel Garber — Mountain View High School (CA)
15. Bilal Malik — James Logan High School (CA)
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PRELIMS
LD Round 1
LD Round 2
LD Round 3
LD Round 4
LD Round 5
LD Round 6
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test
Posted from: 205.134.251.132
September 15th, 2007 11:23
[...] Greenhill Fall Classic: Rounds 1 and 2 have been posted. [...]
Posted from: 71.246.54.179
September 15th, 2007 15:08
can you post the cx pairings, please.
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 15th, 2007 18:46
some 4-0s
wade houston
ben clancy
todd liipfert
devin race
jake nebel
maeshal abid
scarsdale nl i think? (he’s hitting nebel so either he’s 4-0 or a pullup)
there are so many 3-1s its ridiculous
Posted from: 69.118.235.253
September 15th, 2007 18:51
Nikita is up 4
Posted from: 146.115.112.5
September 15th, 2007 19:14
it’s worth pointing out (RE: quinn), that scarsdale NL (nikita lalwani) happens to be a girl
Posted from: 146.115.112.5
September 15th, 2007 19:17
also, the “ld round 5″ link is to a .jpg of CX rd. 2
Posted from: 98.198.236.21
September 15th, 2007 19:41
note: round 5 link is for CX. also how is traber doing
Posted from: 199.227.189.162
September 15th, 2007 19:53
ross brown is 5-0… in my heart.
Posted from: 69.118.235.253
September 15th, 2007 20:03
I think Marcus beat Ross round 2
Posted from: 205.188.116.76
September 15th, 2007 20:48
Ah, Rd 5 document doesn’t look right….can we get the right one up?
Posted from: 67.153.23.106
September 15th, 2007 21:31
whoops (about nikita)
carnegie vanguard rv is 4-1
Posted from: 24.161.65.27
September 16th, 2007 09:05
congrats ravi and nikita
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 16th, 2007 09:24
wade houston and brian macdonald are about to debate in doubles. daniel garber and trinity prep RS. Sacred heart SZ & Edina BH. Logan BM & Colleyville AB. Strake and Hockaday cleared a bunch as well.
Posted from: 69.114.56.113
September 16th, 2007 09:30
Those panels are incredible… good luck to everyone. Craven/Clancy 07
Posted from: 70.241.85.237
September 16th, 2007 09:30
major props to muthu for clearing
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 16th, 2007 09:36
kristen ray is being subbed by tristan vick in the rachel v. joan round and the vivian v. ryan round
Posted from: 70.241.188.255
September 16th, 2007 09:40
If god made a panel, it’d probably look like this.
(Neil Conrad, David Wolfish, Jo Russell)
Posted from: 128.220.149.20
September 16th, 2007 09:49
wtg garber :)
Posted from: 128.220.149.20
September 16th, 2007 09:50
oh, maeshals cool too, i guess.
Posted from: 24.161.65.27
September 16th, 2007 10:07
lexington *J* Z, maybe?
Posted from: 24.12.175.184
September 16th, 2007 10:21
omg, congratulations brian!! way to rep NT
also, go vivian!
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 16th, 2007 10:26
wade def brian on a 2-1
Posted from: 69.118.230.217
September 16th, 2007 10:45
congrats Nikita and Shadman
Posted from: 75.80.137.244
September 16th, 2007 10:50
YAAAY VIVIAN.
I knew you could do it.
Posted from: 24.44.61.121
September 16th, 2007 10:51
Congratulations Raquel mi amor.
Posted from: 129.72.154.193
September 16th, 2007 11:14
strake has at least 2 golden tickets
Posted from: 70.231.155.230
September 16th, 2007 11:16
BILAL = STILL A BALLER
SHAHBAZ = SHAIKHIN’ IT UP
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 16th, 2007 11:36
Edina DM and Edina BH won their double octos rounds.
Posted from: 75.161.228.235
September 16th, 2007 11:36
woot woot, go David (edina DM) and ben (edina BH) !!!!
edina represent.
damn you guys be like jed and john.
Posted from: 140.247.103.53
September 16th, 2007 11:52
Mountain View DG def. Trinity RS
Congrats on bid #1 Garber
Posted from: 146.115.112.5
September 16th, 2007 11:56
who’s mack coleman affiliated with? also, are CX outrounds out yet?
GO JZ, Townzen/Zendeh, Shen/Logan
lex killz
Posted from: 75.80.137.244
September 16th, 2007 12:10
Great showing at Greenhill, Vivian. :)
Posted from: 141.156.166.155
September 16th, 2007 12:14
Congrats Ellen!!!
Posted from: 98.199.6.12
September 16th, 2007 12:15
Gratz Ben Clancy on the bid.
Posted from: 146.151.53.157
September 16th, 2007 12:15
congrats chris on the bid.
Posted from: 70.59.108.142
September 16th, 2007 12:27
WAY TO GO ELLEN!!
You are sooooo amazing!
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 16th, 2007 12:43
yay rachel, clearing and bid round in one fell swoop.
congrats to strake, sucks you have to pull one up over the other, congrats to colleyville, and becca.
but most importantly
CONGRATS TO MUTHU
2-1 and a bid round, man, you are badass
Posted from: 69.118.235.253
September 16th, 2007 12:45
special congrats to Garber on the 1st of many bids, and congrats to Nikita and Shadman for clearing
Posted from: 75.134.133.65
September 16th, 2007 12:52
congrats to chris on the bid
Posted from: 98.199.179.122
September 16th, 2007 12:56
GOOOO WADEE AND GARBERRRR
congrats muthu, maeshal, ryan, todd, and ellen on breaking
Posted from: 147.9.45.38
September 16th, 2007 13:01
Ben and David, you are awesome.
Chris, you are equally amazing. Oh, and congrats on the RR.
Way to represent the land of the cold air.
Posted from: 70.251.245.4
September 16th, 2007 13:05
arti, rahim, and shaggy are my FAVORITE!
way to go guys, yall are awesome!
Posted from: 70.241.81.16
September 16th, 2007 13:07
Congrats to david and becca on their quals and congrats to mr. tyger on his bid. Continue the houston heg.
And congrats to ben on his bid.
Yall are all badasses
Posted from: 147.9.45.38
September 16th, 2007 13:15
Oh, and Ellen, very very well done. See you at WACFL.
Posted from: 64.12.116.76
September 16th, 2007 13:19
Congrats to Ellen and Vivian on some sweet bid round appearances!
Posted from: 24.172.9.62
September 16th, 2007 13:44
GARBEY!!!
yeah toast!
Posted from: 68.196.117.93
September 16th, 2007 13:45
Congratulations to Dave McNeil!
Posted from: 74.70.112.133
September 16th, 2007 13:47
Wade is straight baller
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 16th, 2007 13:48
Octas Results, I’m not sure about the squirrels
Hockaday SV def. Edina BH (2-1)
(Wesley Craven*, Stephen Hess, Ernie Rose)
Edina DM def. Hockaday JG (2-1)
(Anjan Choudhury*, Kris Wright, Jon Cruz)
Apple Valley CT def. Hockaday LD (2-1)
(Neil Conrad, Dan Meyers, Jake Gelfand*)
Oak Mountain WH def. Mountain View DG (2-1)
(Tom Evnen, Petey Gil-Montllor, Tim Hogan*)
Strake Jesuit DD over Strake Jesuit PT
Trinity Prep JN vs. Kinkaid BT (3-0)
(Eric Melin, Liz Scoggin, Cherian Koshy)
James Logan BM def. Westlake DR (2-1)
(Andy Werner*, Geoff Caffo, David Wolfish)
Westwood BC def. Marcus VH
(Ryan Cooper, Stacy Thomas*, Chad Henson)
Posted from: 98.199.179.122
September 16th, 2007 13:54
bilal, chris, and wadeee! :)
Posted from: 24.46.207.84
September 16th, 2007 13:58
Congrats to Nikita, and Ravi
Posted from: 74.70.112.133
September 16th, 2007 14:23
WOOOT go wade
Posted from: 66.27.96.17
September 16th, 2007 15:02
Nice job vivian!
Posted from: 69.180.27.21
September 16th, 2007 15:15
Some limited CX information (doubles) is at http://www.cross-x.com/vb/showthread.php?t=977112
Posted from: 70.241.81.16
September 16th, 2007 15:21
Mr. Clancy, you r a major badass
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
September 16th, 2007 15:24
Oak Mountain WH def. James Logan BM (Bilal Malik)
correction:James Logan BM def. Oak Mountain WH *****
Posted from: 130.64.132.163
September 16th, 2007 15:28
Clancy FTW
Posted from: 98.199.6.12
September 16th, 2007 15:43
i 2nd brian agler’s motion.
Posted from: 69.181.218.2
September 16th, 2007 16:12
Grats Curly
Posted from: 69.181.218.2
September 16th, 2007 16:12
and shahbaz
Posted from: 64.91.160.27
September 16th, 2007 16:15
Go Clancy! And congrats to all the Texas debaters who broke and to everyone who got bids.
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 16th, 2007 16:36
The outrounds continue in LD, but I just wanted to take a quick moment to congratulate to Andrew and Regan for reppin’ Bronx Science in outrounds in policy. Great job, guys! (Not too shabby for two second-year debaters!)
Posted from: 129.72.154.22
September 16th, 2007 16:39
i’m going for jake
Posted from: 134.173.92.11
September 16th, 2007 16:58
im just gonna throw it out there that 7 of the 8 quarterfinalists are vbi alums :-)
Posted from: 71.135.46.225
September 16th, 2007 17:06
congrats on the first bid garbey
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 16th, 2007 17:11
@vbi pwnz: Flamewars are fun, aren’t they?
Posted from: 98.199.179.122
September 16th, 2007 17:44
BILAL.
that is all.
Posted from: 208.120.31.99
September 16th, 2007 17:57
respeck regan + andrew
Posted from: 65.88.9.138
September 16th, 2007 18:08
Edina David McNeil versus Trinity Prep’s Jake Nebel in finals
Posted from: 71.139.16.231
September 16th, 2007 18:09
A lot of this is a matter of region. If you look at Berkeley quarters you will see a similar domination but by NSD.
It’s good to know Daniel Garber has succeeded where Eric Palmer and Stephen Hess have not.
Moerner (This is your penalty for losing in doubles, M)
Posted from: 68.34.22.122
September 16th, 2007 18:22
Way to go David! I’m so happy.
Posted from: 141.156.235.136
September 16th, 2007 18:23
congrats Ellen!!!
Posted from: 24.215.130.4
September 16th, 2007 18:23
interesting how many juniors did well
Posted from: 24.172.9.62
September 16th, 2007 18:24
MN debate is going to own this year. Lakeville is rooting for you.
Posted from: 98.196.236.178
September 16th, 2007 18:28
ben clancy, you can touch my beard anytime now. way to tear it up.
Posted from: 12.5.250.229
September 16th, 2007 18:35
I was on the bottom of the 3-2 in semis, not Chad.
Posted from: 24.172.9.62
September 16th, 2007 18:49
I agree with Tyler… it’s gonna be really fun to hit all the circuity people at Minnesota locals. =)
Also, TAKE IT HOME MCNEIL.
that is all.
Posted from: 65.69.155.2
September 16th, 2007 19:27
CONGRATS with a well deserved VIVIAN!!!, Devin, BEN!, Arti, Rahim, David, Paul, & Becca (finishing the qual!).
:D
Posted from: 65.69.155.2
September 16th, 2007 19:28
btw, sleep ben.
Posted from: 71.139.16.231
September 16th, 2007 19:48
Congrats, Jake!
Posted from: 192.246.232.226
September 16th, 2007 20:03
407 rekordz
Posted from: 76.186.229.215
September 16th, 2007 20:21
Congrats jake
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
September 16th, 2007 21:30
Congrats Ben, David, Bilal, Jake, Becca, Jason, and Joan.
Posted from: 12.5.250.229
September 16th, 2007 21:40
congrats to jake on the win. confederate hege.
and congrats to garber on bid #1. there are many more to come.
Posted from: 63.246.171.93
September 16th, 2007 21:45
Hey!
Former VBI-ers were all of semis.
And an all-juniors finals round!
Big congrats to the Nebelator, and David McNeil (David McNeil, David McNeil)
Huzzah to Ben Clancy, (aka awesome man.)
Also, nice job to the Hockaday debaters and coaches, who cleared all four of their debaters.
Posted from: 67.154.9.221
September 16th, 2007 21:53
Congratulations are due to Jake Nebel and David. Good work you guys.
Posted from: 69.121.165.164
September 16th, 2007 22:38
Congratulations to Paul and Kathleen!
Posted from: 68.164.242.124
September 16th, 2007 23:15
congrats david
vbi lab pride
Posted from: 75.62.2.50
September 17th, 2007 00:11
Good work Shahbaz. Oh, by the way, Chad did not vote for me in sems, Tim did.
Posted from: 24.23.137.171
September 17th, 2007 06:24
congrats to garbie on the first bid! i hella called this last year.
Posted from: 65.112.165.162
September 17th, 2007 07:54
Congrats to Vanderbabb Lab standouts: Nebel, Mcneil, Clancy, and Theis… (and another 5 of you broke!)
UNT labbies included another 5 breaks, I think. Great work, everyone!
b
Posted from: 149.142.112.2
September 17th, 2007 09:30
A HUGE congrats to Bilal, Ben, David, and Jake. Also to Chris for the RR showing, and the many other worthy performers.
Posted from: 75.73.208.213
September 17th, 2007 09:41
Congrats Jake, and everyone else who got bids
Posted from: 12.5.250.229
September 17th, 2007 11:53
I want to take this opportunity to more publicly congratulate Jake and David on an absolutely incredible final round.
I really wish that we had taped the round for all at home to watch. So often the rounds online are technical exercises; this round — certainly the best I have judged in recent memory — featured arguments that were incredibly substantive, thought-provoking, engaging, strategic, and, in the truest sense of the word, persuasive. It is rare that I am still thinking about what was said in a round the morning after a tournament. I know I will be thinking about it for some time to come.
Thanks, guys.
I also want to take this opportunity to thank Aaron Timmons and Jonathan Paul for being such great hosts this weekend. AT had a thousand things going on in the week before the tournament but took the time to personally assist me in resolving a small issue we had with our hotel reservations. That is just awesome. I have not been able to make it to Greenhill the past two years and this weekend reminded me why I had missed it so much. I am already looking forward to the next edition of the tournament.
Posted from: 66.166.207.148
September 17th, 2007 12:04
Congrats to David and Jake for finals, and garber for his definitely well-deserved first bid!
Posted from: 98.199.114.107
September 17th, 2007 13:36
st louis park CT was 33rd seed
Posted from: 128.62.183.150
September 17th, 2007 13:52
Congrats to Paul and David on their golden tickets.
Posted from: 24.45.15.243
September 17th, 2007 13:53
Huge congrats to Jake and David. Absolutely awesome. When was the last time that two juniors did that at Greenhill? (I’m assuming Jon can answer that question.)
Also congrats to Bilal, Paul, Shivani, David Donatti, Joan, and Jason. VBI ’07 represent.
Posted from: 38.118.12.10
September 17th, 2007 13:56
I want to very much agree with what Jon said. This was an amazing tournament, and the entire Greenhill program deserves much thanks for really extraordinary effort and care.
Also, I want to really point out and thank Jake and the Trinity Prep crowd for writing what I believe was a really inspired affirmative case. I thought David did a really great job as well, and it produced an excellent final round. So often, the final round is often an afterthought at tournament. For me, this one was the highlight; I really felt like I learned something and saw really high quality debate.
And of course, major congratulations to Vivian (of Torrey Pines, though Vivian Ho gets mad props too!) on her first bid round of the year, and to Ellen on her first bid round of her career. I know there will be many to come for both of you. I’m really fortunate to work with such amazing and hard-working debaters.
Posted from: 72.189.15.196
September 17th, 2007 14:38
Great job Jake!
Posted from: 75.6.209.141
September 17th, 2007 17:11
Thanks to Timmons and company for a great tournament.
Jake and David were amazing in finals.
Good work guys.
Posted from: 75.6.209.141
September 17th, 2007 17:20
congratulations to Petey and Jake Gelfand as well.
Posted from: 75.73.208.213
September 17th, 2007 17:41
Congrats is due to Mr. Castillo on a finely executed one-liner to begin his final round RFD! :)
Posted from: 24.115.128.87
September 17th, 2007 17:55
Congratualtions to Ellen Noble and Lindsay Dolan!
Posted from: 70.247.11.28
September 17th, 2007 18:21
will thr be policy results up???
Posted from: 75.134.132.252
September 17th, 2007 18:23
Great job Jake and David. Way to Represent Anderson, Babb and more importantly Hell’z Bitchez.
Posted from: 75.73.214.91
September 17th, 2007 19:31
http://www.joyoftournaments.com/tx/greenhill/info.asp?p=5
Policy and LD results packets ^
Posted from: 69.142.68.134
September 17th, 2007 20:30
congrats to fellow PDI’ers Ellen Noble and Lindsay Dolan!
Posted from: 72.93.211.189
September 17th, 2007 23:03
Congrats, Ben, Devin, Becca, Joan, Chris,Bilal, and Maeshal. Tough luck on 33rd seed Catherine = /
Posted from: 75.36.128.219
September 18th, 2007 16:26
congrats to wade, chris, maeshal, ravi, and jz. and especially to jake on winning. this doesn’t mean you win the war, though.
Posted from: 24.90.122.43
September 18th, 2007 19:47
BIG congrats to jake and david. also congrats to ellen, paul, shivani, jason, and david
Posted from: 76.187.124.229
September 18th, 2007 20:42
Congrats all who broke and bid! Yay for Joan for getting 1st speaker! :)
(35) Grapevine WH (William Hix)
Posted from: 24.255.123.208
January 27th, 2008 01:17
I *really* want to see Jake’s aff case. Is this possible?