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J.W. Patterson Releases List of Tournament Qualifying Levels

posted by Jon Cruz on July 20th, 2007

EDITOR’S NOTE: This article was originally posted on July 20, 2007 but has been bumped up to continue the conversation.

LEXINGTON, Ky. - J.W. Patterson has released the bid standings for the 2007-2008 season. You can read a copy of his e-mail here.


THE ROAD TO THE THIRTY-SEVENTH KENTUCKY TOC

DATES: SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY

MAY 3, 4, AND 5, 2008

IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS FOR TOC 2008

1. Schools that do not comply with deadlines will be assessed a nuisance fee of $50 and will not have the option of participating in judge preferences or strikes! The deadline for both fully qualified entries and “at-large” applications in both divisions is March 15, 2008. The deadline for the payment of all fees is April 1, 2008. “At-large” applicants will not be notified and fully qualified teams will not be entered into the tournament until all fees are paid.

2. The TOC Tournament Director has NO hired judges available. SCHOOLS MUST SUPPLY THEIR OWN JUDGES. If the person supplied is not a full time teacher of a school, the applicant may be required to submit the qualifications of the designated judge to the Tournament Director. The TOC Director will refer people who wish to judge to those who desire to hire judges. All such arrangements will be between the designated school and the person wishing to be hired.

3. In both policy and LD, tournaments designated as a quarter-final or octa-final qualifier must have at least six preliminary rounds; otherwise, the bid drops to the semi-finals level.

4. If a school has not submitted judging philosophies for all of its judges by 7 days before the TOC, that school will not be offered a preference and strike sheet for the TOC and will be assessed a nuisance fee of $50.

6. A team or an LD debater must win at least one elimination round to be eligible for a “ghost bid.” For example, if a tournament breaks at the double-octos level and is a TOC qualifier at the octos level, if two people or teams from the same school meet in the octos round, a ghost bid would be awarded. If a tournament breaks at the octos level and is a TOC qualifier at the quarters level, and two people or teams from the same school meet in the quarters, a ghost bid would be awarded. On the other hand, if a tournament breaks to the octafinals and people from the same school meet in the octos, a ghost bid would not be awarded. In this case, since there was no double octos, the people meeting would not have won an out round and would not eligible for a ghost bid.

7. In policy debate, a team must have two qualifiers as a team to qualify for the TOC. If a team does not have two quals AS A TEAM, then they may submit for an at-large bid. Debaters from the same school who have two or more bids but have not debated together may also submit for an “at-large” bid.

8. Tournament Directors must submit complete result sheets no more than thirty days after the tournament is held. For tournaments held after March 1st, the results must be certified by March 10th. This includes the debaters full names, their schools, and state

THE FOLLOWING L-D TOURNAMENTS ARE DESIGNATED AS OCTAFINAL QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-2008:

Apple Valley (MN)
Barkley Forum at Emory University (GA)
The Glenbrooks (IL)
Greenhill School (TX)
Harvard University (MA)
St. Mark’s School (TX)
Stanford University Spring National (CA)
University of California at Berkeley

THE FOLLOWING L-D TOURNAMENT ARE DESIGNATED AS QUARTERFINAL QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-2008:

Archer’s School for Girls (CA)
Blake School (MN)
Crestian Classic (FL)
Hendrick Hudson (NY)
Lexington (MA)
Manchester-by-the-Sea (MA)
Mid-America Cup at Valley (IA)
Silver and Black Invitational at Alta HS (UT)
Wake Forest University (NC)
Yale University (CT)

THE FOLLOWING L-D TOURNAMENTS ARE DESIGNATED AS SEMIFINAL QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-2008:

Bronx School of Science (NY) (pending)
Dowling (IA)
Florida Blue Key (FL)
Grapevine (TX)
Harker (CA)
Iowa Caucuses
Monticello (NY)
Ohio Valley Invitational (KY)
Princeton University (NJ) (pending)
University of Texas at Austin
Whitman College (WA)

THE FOLLOWING L-D TOURNAMENTS ARE DESIGNATED AS FINAL ROUND QUALIFIERS 2006-2007:

Auburn Senior High (WA)
College Prep. (CA)
Colleyville-Heritage (TX)
Columbia University (NY)
Federal Way (WA)
Isidore Newman (LA)
Meadows (NV)
Memorial-Houston (TX)
Nova Titan (FL)
Omaha-Westside (NE)
Project PRIDE/Newark City Invit. (NJ)
St. James (AL)
Vestavia Hills (AL)
Winston Churchill (TX)

The following tournaments/awards are INELIGIBLE as qualifiers:

* Any round-robin, summer institute, NFL, CFL, or state championship tournaments (even if conducted or hosted by schools/colleges/universities which host TOC-approved tournaments)
* Any speaker award at any tournament (even if earned at TOC-approved tournaments)
* Any tournament held outside the eligibility period (September 1, 2007 to March 5, 2008)
* Any tournament not on this approved tournament list unless added by the TOC Tournament Director. Please check the official TOC web site and if you still have questions, contact Dr. J.W. Patterson if you have any questions about the approval status of tournaments.

THE FOLLOWING POLICY DEBATE TOURNAMENTS ARE OCTAFINAL QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-2008:

Barkley Forum at Emory University (GA)
The Glenbrooks (IL)
Greenhill School (TX)
Harvard University (MA)
Montgomery Bell Academy (TN)
St. Marks School (TX)
University of California at Berkeley

THE FOLLOWING POLICY DEBATE TOURNAMENTS ARE QUARTERFINAL QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-2008:

Blake (MN)
Georgetown Day (DC)
Lexington (MA)
New Trier (IL)
Ohio Valley Invitational (KY)
University of Michigan at Ann Arbor
University of Redlands (CA)
University of Southern California
University of Texas at Austin
Wake Forest University (NC)

THE FOLLOWING POLICY DEBATE TOURNAMENTS ARE SEMIFINAL QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-2008:

Colleyville-Heritage (TX)
Dowling (IA)
Golden Desert (NV)
Grapevine (TX)
Iowa Caucus at Cedar Rapids (IA)
Kansas City, Kansas, Community College (KS)
Lakeland (NY)
Maine East (IL)
Memorial-Houston (TX)
Mid-America Cup at Valley (IA)
Silver and Black Invitational at Alta HS (UT)
Stanford University Spring National (CA)
University of Georgia
Vestavia Hills (AL)

THE FOLLOWING POLICY DEBATE TOURNAMENTS ARE FINAL ROUND QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-2008:

Auburn Senior High School (WA)
The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
Carrollton (GA)
East Grand Rapids (IA)
Florida Blue Key
Gonzaga (WA)
La Costa Canyon (CA)
Long Beach (CA)
Marquette (WI)
Meadows (NV)
Omaha-Westside (NE)
Samford University (AL)
Westminster (GA)
Whitman College (WA)

The following tournaments/awards are INELIGIBLE as qualifiers:

* Any round-robin, summer institute, NFL, CFL, or state championship tournaments (even if conducted or hosted by schools/colleges/universities which host TOC-approved tournaments)
* Any speaker award at any tournament (even if earned at TOC-approved tournaments)
* Any tournament held outside the eligibility period (September 1, 2007 to March 5, 2008)
* Any tournament not on this approved tournament list unless added by the TOC Tournament Director. Please check the official TOC website and if you still have questions, contact Dr. J.W. Patterson if you have any questions about the approval status of tournaments.

TOC APPROVED TOURNAMENTS FOR STUDENT CONGRESS FOR 2007-08

1) Debaters who broke at the 2007 TOC

2) Top Six at the 2007 NFL National Tournament

3) Top Six at the 2007 CFL National Tournament

THE FOLLOWING STUDENT CONGRESS DEBATE TOURNAMENTS ARE SEMIFINAL ROUND QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-08:

The Glenbrooks (IL)
Harvard
NFL 2007 National Tournament
CFL 2007 National Tournament

THE FOLLOWING STUDENT CONGRESS DEBATE TOURNAMENTS ARE FINAL ROUND QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-08:

Barkley Forum at Emory University (FL)
University of California at Berkeley
Crestian Classic (FL)
Grapevine (TX)
University of Texas
Villager (PA)
Yale (CT)
Wake Forest (NC)

TOP SIX
George Mason
James Logan (CA)
Nova Titan (FL)
Princeton University (NJ)
University of Pennsylvania
St. Marks
Winston Churchill (TX)

Top Six in the Super Congress at the February Illinois Congressional Debate Association Tournament

State Tournaments

Top Six if the state has a district qualifying tournament to advance or if it has more than 48 contestants in Congress open competition.

In addition to the above, any tournament that has five states and fifty entries can qualify the top six.

TOC APPROVED TOURNAMENTS IN PUBLIC FORUM FOR 2007-08:

1) Quarterfinals at the 2007 TOC

2) Quarterfinals at the 2007 NFL National Tournament

THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC FORUM DEBATE TOURNAMENTS ARE OCTAFINAL QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-08:

Barkley Forum at Emory University(GA)
The Glenbrooks (IL)
Harvard (MA)

Octafinals of the 2007 NFL National Tournament

THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC FORUM DEBATE TOURNAMENTS ARE QUARTERFINAL QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-08:

Arizona State (AZ)
Crestian (FL)
Manchester-by-the-Sea (MA)
Lexington (MA)
Ohio Valley Invitational (KY)
Stanford (CA)
Wake Forest University (NC)
Yale (CT)
Any tournament with 50 teams from 5 or more states

Catholic Forensic League

THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC FORUM DEBATE TOURNAMENTS ARE SEMIFINAL ROUND QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-08:

The Bronx High School of Science (NY)
Dowling Catholic (IA)
George Mason (VA)
Harker (CA)
Hendrick Hudson (NY)
Lincoln East (NE)
University of Pennsylvania
Villager (PA)

THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC FORUM DEBATE TOURNAMENTS ARE FINAL ROUND QUALIFIERS FOR 2007-08:

James Logan (CA)
Nova Titan (FL)
St. Marks (TX)

All NFL National Qualifiers count as 1 bid

Sincerely,

J.W. Patterson
TOC Director and Founder

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18 Responses to “J.W. Patterson Releases List of Tournament Qualifying Levels”

  1. Matt
    Posted from: 24.161.65.27

    July 20th, 2007 12:21
    1

    Hm…Interesting.

  2. Jose Medina
    Posted from: 68.212.152.37

    July 20th, 2007 14:48
    2

    Oh man…

    I wasn’t aware that Nova Titan had a bid.

    Anyway, this is interesting… can’t wait for the season to start.

  3. Moerner
    Posted from: 75.38.49.70

    July 20th, 2007 15:57
    3

    I believe that Nova Titan had bids in 2005 and before.

  4. little bunny foo foo
    Posted from: 76.88.112.160

    July 20th, 2007 18:01
    4

    Was Archer a semis bid last year? If so, congrats to VB for the quarters bid. If not, I guess my memory’s fading. I feel like it was semis pretty recently though.

  5. spirtos
    Posted from: 70.173.188.111

    July 20th, 2007 18:46
    5

    congrats vbt, and also props to meadows for finals bids in both ld and policy

  6. t
    Posted from: 69.134.22.44

    July 20th, 2007 18:56
    6

    Why is Blue Key no long a bid for Congress?

  7. i
    Posted from: 66.87.88.5

    July 20th, 2007 22:10
    7

    no logan bid :(

  8. anon
    Posted from: 24.151.31.232

    July 21st, 2007 07:41
    8

    i cant believe Manchester is still a quarters bid.

    and Meadows only had like 15 kids competing in LD last year- that certainly doesn’t qualify it as a finals bid

    Harker and Big Bronx should be quarters bids

  9. anon
    Posted from: 71.213.52.228

    July 21st, 2007 09:01
    9

    The toughest semis bid in the country is the University of Texas tournament. If any tournament should receive a quarters bid, it should be UT. What should happen is for the Alta Silver and Black to be bumped to a semis and UT to get a quarters. I have been to both and UT is much more competitive.

  10. Nick Bubb
    Posted from: 134.48.162.210

    July 21st, 2007 11:59
    10

    woo! Marquette gets a finals bid in policy!

  11. asmitty
    Posted from: 69.181.125.125

    July 22nd, 2007 11:00
    11

    UT can’t have a quarters bid b/c it has 5 rounds.

    i’m also really glad LCC got a policy bid, san diego has tons of untapped talent and a bid tournament may be just what it needs to lock into the circuit.

  12. fritzpielstick
    Posted from: 71.104.129.167

    July 22nd, 2007 14:00
    12

    LCC actually has decent competition in policy, but the judging pool leaves a lot to be desired. A team from my school (Claremont HS, in souther california) cleared to finals at that tourney this year and got second. The team that they “lost” to dropped two disads and a k but won anyway b/c they were “more persuasive”.

    Even so, the team from my school, although they are both chill people, are in no way TOC level debaters.

    Sure, there are some good policy debaters in san diego, bu most of them are from La Costa, and so they can’t compete there anyway.

    But, who knows? Maybe now that LCC has a bid, the competition and judging will improve enough.

  13. fritzpielstick
    Posted from: 71.104.129.167

    July 22nd, 2007 14:02
    13

    What has to happen before Long Beach gets an LD finals bid?

    As I recall, the two varsity finalists from last year both got bids at other tournaments.

  14. James Hoggatt
    Posted from: 24.117.140.20

    July 22nd, 2007 22:21
    14

    Good to see Newman still kicking.

  15. Josh Stephens
    Posted from: 86.138.1.84

    July 23rd, 2007 16:06
    15

    Long Beach used to have a finals bid, five or six years ago. I think Garvin won it back then. Those were heady times.

    It’s hard to say whether the quality went down or whether it got nudged out by other CA tourneys. It’s a big tournament for sure, with a broad talent pool.

  16. alex ackroyd
    Posted from: 157.242.215.79

    July 27th, 2007 20:57
    16

    are all the dates set? if so could they be added to the post jon

  17. quinn
    Posted from: 98.197.139.224

    August 3rd, 2007 14:14
    17

    why is big bronx pending?

    and who acquired the isidore newman bid (which was semis i believe) ?

  18. McGraw
    Posted from: 68.33.3.2

    August 9th, 2007 13:50
    18

    does anyone have J.W. Patterson’s email or phone number. this is James McGraw and i am the tournament director for Villiger next year. we used to have a quarters LD bid a couple years ago. we are trying to get that bid back, but we could not get in touch with him. also, there has been a lot of buzz on the east coast that villiger or pennsbury get some sort of policy toc bid. please chime in your thoughts. thanks.

    love,
    james

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