Patrick Diehl is TOC Champion
TOC finalists David McGough and Patrick Diehl
LEXINGTON, Ky. – After a compiling major successes across the national circuit throughout the season, and following success at this most difficult of tournaments, Lynbrook High School’s Patrick Diehl and Greenhill School’s David McGough for advanced to the final round of the Tournament of Champions! Congratulations to both!
On a 7-2 decision, Patrick — who had earlier won the Walter Alan Ulrich Award for placing as top speaker — claimed the TOC title. Josh Anderson, Jason Baldwin, Anjan Choudhury, Nick Coburn-Palo, Jon Cruz, Victor Jih, and Pam Cady Wycoff negated for Patrick. Wesley Craven and Beena Koshy dissented, affirming for David.
Patrick is coached by Dave McGinnis and Corbin Cass. David is coached by Aaron Timmons and Neil Conrad.
Images from the tournament, as well as archived commentary from the BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS, will be available soon.
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LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATE
RUN-OFF ROUND
(14) Hockaday JG def. (19) Trinity Prep RS (Ravi Sankar)
(Mike Bietz, Ernie Rose, Adwait Parker)
(15) Meadows MS def. (18) Highland Park [MN] JM (Joseph Miller)
(Stephen Babb, Paul Schiano, Michelin Massey)
(16) St. Louis Park NT def. (17) Glenbrook North MR (Michael Roytman)
(Neil Conrad, Eric Palmer, Ryan Lawrence)
OCTAS
(16) St. Louis Park NT def. (1) Lynbrook JK (Jon Kwan)
3-0 (Mike Bietz, Paul Schiano, Bryan Cory)
(2) Lynbrook PD def. (15) Meadows MS (Mike Spirtos)
3-0 (Adwait Parker, Chetan Hertzig, Petey Gil)
(3) Scarsdale MA def. (14) Hockaday JG (Joan Gass)
3-0 (Kris Wright, Pam Cady Wycoff, Jay Rye)
(4) Greenhill DM def. (13) Trinity Prep JN (Jake Nebel)
2-1 (*Stephen Babb, Dan Meyers, Michelin Massey)
(5) Millburn GH def. (12) Hockaday LD (Lindsay Dolan)
3-0 (Neil Conrad, Cherian Koshy, Jessica Bailey)
(6) Marcus NA def. (11) Sacred Heart SZ (Shadman Zaman)
2-1 (*Joe Vaughan, Josh Anderson, Steph Bell)
(7) Hollis-Brookline AH def. (10) Lake Highland JT (J.R. Thorsen)
2-1 (Stacy Thomas, Chris Castillo, *Eric Palmer)
(9) Jersey Village DC def. (8) Hockaday TV (Taarini Vohra)
3-0 (Anjan Choudhury, Thomas Brugato, Kendra Oyer)
QUARTERS
(9) Jersey Village DC def. (16) St. Louis Park NT (Nick Tourville)
2-1 (Stacy Thomas, Neil Conrad, *Ryan O’Hara)
(2) Lynbrook PD def. (7) Hollis-Brookline AH (Allison Huberlie)
3-0 (Josh Anderson, Paul Schiano, Stephen Babb)
(3) Scarsdale MA def. (6) Marcus NA (Nathan Abell)
3-0 (Anjan Choudhury, Cherian Koshy, Aaron Timmons)
(4) Greenhill DM def. (5) Millburn GH (Greg Hertz)
3-0 (Kris Wright, Petey Gil, Wesley Craven)
SEMIS
(4) Greenhill DM def. (9) Jersey Village DC (Daniel Cory)
3-2 (Josh Anderson, Stephen Babb, Anjan Choudhury, *Petey Gil, *Michelin Massey)
(2) Lynbrook PD def. (3) Scarsdale MA (Matt Aks)
3-2 (Neil Conrad, Bryan Cory, Wesley Craven, *Aaron Timmons, *Kris Wright)
FINALS
(2) Lynbrook PD def. (4) Greenhill DM (David McGough)
7-2 (Josh Anderson, Jason Baldwin, Anjan Choudhury, Nick Coburn-Palo, *Wesley Craven, Jon Cruz, Victor Jih, *Beena Koshy, Pam Cady Wycoff)
TOC CHAMPION
(2) Lynbrook PD (Patrick Diehl)
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TOP SPEAKERS
1. Patrick Diehl (Lynbrook High School, CA) [Walter Alan Ulrich Award]
2. Nathan Abell (Marcus High School, TX)
3. Jon Kwan (Lynbrook High School, CA)
4. Byron Ruby (Menlo-Atherton High School, CA)
5. Allison Huberlie (Hollis-Brookline High School, NH)
6. Taarini Vohra (The Hockaday School, TX)
7. Matt Aks (Scarsdale High School, NY)
8. Andrew Harris (Scarsdale High School, NY)
9. Daniel Cory (Jersey Village High School, TX)
10. Susan Morrow (Albquerque Academy, NM)
11. J.R. Thorsen (Lake Highland Preparatory School, FL)
12. David McGough (Greenhill School, TX)
13. Shadman Zaman (Sacred Heart High School,
14. Lindsay Dolan (The Hockaday School, TX)
15. Patrick Mahoney (Strake Jesuit College Preparatory School, TX)
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PRELIMS
Round I
Round II
Round III
Round IV
Round V
Round VI
Round VII
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Posted from: 199.76.153.217
May 5th, 2007 07:40
I will be going to the TOC Advisory Committee luncheon now, so pardon any brief delay. Be sure to post comments!
Posted from: 72.181.8.188
May 5th, 2007 07:43
any results thus far?
Posted from: 72.145.85.38
May 5th, 2007 07:53
can you post the policy pairings?
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
May 5th, 2007 08:03
I believe a name may have been left off my original list.
Berkeley Carroll IB is in the pairings and not on the list.
Thanks for pairings!
Posted from: 128.62.106.161
May 5th, 2007 08:13
Justin Bexley has the easiest presets i have ever seen
[yeah, that was sarcasm]
Posted from: 199.76.185.253
May 5th, 2007 08:16
Results from Round One:
Scarsdale MA def. Walt Whitman XZ
Lynbrook JK def. Hockaday JG
Monticello KR def. Scarsdale KH
Marcus RG def. Scarsdale NB
Lake Highland JT def. Scarsdale JT
Scarsdale KT def. Oak Mountain WH
Millburn GH def. Scarsdale NL
Hollis-Brookline AH def. Los Altos DM
Strake Jesuit PM def. Marcus NA
Highland Park JM def. Kinkaid BT
Albuquerque SM def. Hopkins VH
Valley EL def. MBA CM
Hockaday LD def. Lexington JZ
Sacred Heart SZ def. Strake Jesuit DD
Lynbrook PD def. Winston Churchill JB
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
May 5th, 2007 08:34
Byron ftw
Posted from: 208.120.31.99
May 5th, 2007 08:37
I recognize Melanie’s fingernails :D
Posted from: 199.76.185.120
May 5th, 2007 08:45
Palo Alto RR def. Apple Valley TG (Tarsney)
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
May 5th, 2007 08:51
Rahul is amazing
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
May 5th, 2007 08:52
Rahul=awesome.
Posted from: 216.51.179.190
May 5th, 2007 08:54
Way to go EL!!! Keep going for Iowa!
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
May 5th, 2007 08:57
Keep it up Moerner, Brubes, Elyse, Maeshal, Pam, and Ali
Posted from: 64.233.239.242
May 5th, 2007 09:06
alright, tatz! represent NDF/mill ‘06.
Posted from: 24.215.215.98
May 5th, 2007 09:28
NICE RAHUL! GO Melanie Rahul and Dylan!
Posted from: 199.76.185.120
May 5th, 2007 09:33
Round 2 — Palo Alto RR def. Ridge ST. All rounds from here on out are power-matched.
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 5th, 2007 09:59
woah moerner got a hella unlucky draw.
Posted from: 12.216.111.70
May 5th, 2007 10:03
Elyse/Maeshal/D-Rock ftw
Posted from: 24.161.65.27
May 5th, 2007 10:12
Go Kaitie!!
Posted from: 72.93.80.164
May 5th, 2007 10:12
GO Teams Lexington
sonia and micki and jz and PB&J and Team Scorpion!!!
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
May 5th, 2007 10:20
any results on Michael O’Connell…Bishop Kelley MO?
Posted from: 128.135.121.121
May 5th, 2007 10:32
good luck to the valley war machine. except maeshal.
Posted from: 68.218.41.57
May 5th, 2007 10:42
policy, eh?
Posted from: 69.120.236.168
May 5th, 2007 10:44
HAHAHAHAHA… policy :)
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 5th, 2007 10:49
go wade!
Posted from: 12.37.85.2
May 5th, 2007 11:08
Aha! Isaac was not in the program booklet. Thanks!
Results:
I know Melanie Plaza is 2-0 going into round 3; we’re finishing up at the Advisory Committee Luncheon so I don’t yet have access to the pairings. I am hoping to get them from Joe Vaughan so I can put them up here.
Posted from: 12.37.85.2
May 5th, 2007 11:09
Hi Jeffrey — as soon as I am back on the campus proper, I will get policy pairings. Sorry about the temporary delay!
Posted from: 71.139.161.188
May 5th, 2007 11:13
GO RAHUL!!!!
Posted from: 24.44.61.121
May 5th, 2007 11:29
GO MELANIE! ONE WEEK TO PREP AND YOU’RE STILL 2-0!
Posted from: 69.120.236.168
May 5th, 2007 11:33
nice job, melanie!
Posted from: 66.174.79.233
May 5th, 2007 11:34
YEAH MELANIE!!!!!!!!! keep it up!!!
Posted from: 70.250.146.220
May 5th, 2007 12:03
any news on the lake highland kids??
Posted from: 64.12.122.198
May 5th, 2007 12:10
policy results? plz
Posted from: 76.197.56.54
May 5th, 2007 12:30
It’s been a while since the round two pairings went up. Does anyone know the results from that round?
Posted from: 69.113.62.164
May 5th, 2007 12:31
go sporkinnnn!!!
Posted from: 64.12.122.198
May 5th, 2007 12:36
scratch my last post.
But good job melanie keep up the good work
Posted from: 24.161.65.27
May 5th, 2007 13:04
Go Team Monticello! And by that of course I mean Kaitie.
Posted from: 72.193.201.189
May 5th, 2007 13:14
hey guys is there a site where I can get all the policy pairings?
Posted from: 162.83.131.162
May 5th, 2007 13:16
GOOD LUCK MELANIE!!!!!! CONGRATS on 2-0 so far.
Posted from: 72.193.201.189
May 5th, 2007 13:18
I need policy results…all of them
Posted from: 71.135.54.161
May 5th, 2007 13:40
i’ve heard (from a pretty reliable source, or so i think) that rahul, diehl, n jkwan are all up 3.
keep reppin the bay
Posted from: 70.244.183.215
May 5th, 2007 13:47
GOOD LUCK ARTI & SHAGGY
:0)
!!
Posted from: 12.216.111.70
May 5th, 2007 13:48
yes. diehl and kwan are up 3.
maeshal is 2-1. idk about elyse.
I heard valley Gobberdiel/hogan def. lexington moroz/mizerak in policy! woot
Posted from: 128.12.50.69
May 5th, 2007 13:49
why are Ryan and Liz “free strikes”?
Posted from: 65.66.216.114
May 5th, 2007 13:52
maybe because they’re first year outs
Posted from: 72.144.229.130
May 5th, 2007 14:08
(this is by no means an exhaustive list)
good luck to ardevan, wade, diehl, hideki, oconn, jbex, roytman, and maeshal.
Posted from: 71.250.164.203
May 5th, 2007 14:23
how does one “get lucky” with draws at the toc?
Posted from: 70.137.134.112
May 5th, 2007 14:25
does anyone know how byron ruby is doing?
Posted from: 169.229.77.223
May 5th, 2007 14:36
zoe,
byron went 0-3, apparently. Tough luck, bro…
panda,
if you believe that some people at the TOC are better than others, hitting a few of the latter as opposed to the former would be “getting lucky,” yeah?
Posted from: 69.107.67.193
May 5th, 2007 14:40
how ironic that ankur references luck at the top of his post and then denounces it at the end =)
Posted from: 24.186.42.113
May 5th, 2007 14:48
any more updates/results?
Posted from: 204.180.72.93
May 5th, 2007 14:58
It would certainly be bad luck to debate Jon Kwan, then David McGough (however his name is spelled), then Nick Tourville in the first three rounds (no offense to anyone else and not to say those are the best three debaters there, but I think winning an octo bid tournament qualifies you as a tough draw).
Do you know Valley GH’s overall record?
Posted from: 24.243.26.60
May 5th, 2007 15:02
Newton GNT is 2-1 with a loss to Tourville
Posted from: 76.102.128.144
May 5th, 2007 15:04
deepa ramakrishnan is 2-2. cali love!
Posted from: 68.117.70.252
May 5th, 2007 15:05
Does any one know how Tim Greenfield is doing?
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 5th, 2007 15:15
when will schems fo round 3 and 4 be posted
Posted from: 65.240.174.3
May 5th, 2007 15:16
Palo Alto RR def. Lexington MC in the 3rd
Posted from: 71.195.53.115
May 5th, 2007 15:17
I heard Tim was down one and the second round from a reliable source. Don’t know how he did in round three yet…
Posted from: 71.195.53.115
May 5th, 2007 15:18
Sorry, realized my last comment made no sense. He was down one after* the second round.
Posted from: 12.216.111.70
May 5th, 2007 15:23
scott, valley gh are 1-2 with that pick up agaisnt lexington. not sure about the 4th round.
Posted from: 12.216.160.171
May 5th, 2007 15:38
how are elyse and maeshal doing?
Posted from: 12.216.111.70
May 5th, 2007 15:39
last I heard maeshal is 2-1 and elyse is 1-2.
Posted from: 209.98.146.179
May 5th, 2007 15:58
Is round 4 in progress??
Does anyone know records for St Louis Park?
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 5th, 2007 16:01
Dude byrons out thats so not expected
Posted from: 65.240.174.3
May 5th, 2007 16:03
Round 4 is well over.
Posted from: 12.216.160.171
May 5th, 2007 16:06
ouch are there 6 or 7 prelims?
Posted from: 69.249.94.148
May 5th, 2007 16:10
any word on hertz or usha?
Posted from: 24.243.26.60
May 5th, 2007 16:10
there are 7 prelims
Newton GNT is 3-1 after beating J.R. Thorsen rd 4
Posted from: 65.240.174.3
May 5th, 2007 16:10
Seven. There were 4 today (3,4 power-matched) and there are 3 Sunday (all power-matched.)
Posted from: 72.255.53.171
May 5th, 2007 16:14
I am 2-2
M grassmeyers is 1-3
Culver is 2-2
Vanessa is 1-3
Switi is 2-2
Kever is 2-2
Moerner is 1-3
Greenfield is 2-2
Posted from: 209.98.146.179
May 5th, 2007 16:17
I heard that Nick Tourville was 4-0, and Catherine 2-2.
Posted from: 72.129.179.182
May 5th, 2007 16:22
Umm…
The link to the Rd. 3 schem is for public forum.
Posted from: 12.216.111.70
May 5th, 2007 16:26
good luck to elyse maeshal and laura
Posted from: 24.243.26.60
May 5th, 2007 16:32
round 3 links to a copy of public forum pairings
Posted from: 72.255.55.44
May 5th, 2007 16:34
SLP:
NT: 4-0
JS: 2-2
CT: 2-2
MG: 1-3
Posted from: 24.151.113.0
May 5th, 2007 16:43
Yeah Gavin! Keep up the good work.
Posted from: 72.181.4.32
May 5th, 2007 16:45
how is daniel cory doing? anyone know? what about joe clifton or david donatti?
Posted from: 72.181.4.32
May 5th, 2007 16:46
does anyone know howdaniel cory or david donatti are doing?
Posted from: 69.134.16.205
May 5th, 2007 16:59
Go Rahul! Win it all for the brown folk!
Posted from: 68.191.49.72
May 5th, 2007 17:03
1. Someone from Newtown quals to TOC- complete
2. Someone from Newtown breaks at TOC- 2 rounds and counting
Posted from: 69.134.16.205
May 5th, 2007 17:03
question? where can i get results from other events like COngress?
Posted from: 75.134.132.253
May 5th, 2007 17:24
Juice I sent you timmy’s record about a half hour before you posted. Get in the game.
Posted from: 151.204.151.107
May 5th, 2007 17:26
I’m having a problem opening rounds 3 and 4, but 1 and 2 are fine. Is something different with them?
Posted from: 209.98.146.179
May 5th, 2007 17:33
Ditto on the schems for rounds 3 and 4.
What times are tomorrow’s rounds scheduled for?
Posted from: 205.173.47.254
May 5th, 2007 17:34
So whos out so far?
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 5th, 2007 17:47
the good people
Posted from: 75.72.48.125
May 5th, 2007 17:49
Dug up the files from the uploads
Round 3:
http://victorybriefsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/DSC00266.JPG
Round 4:
http://victorybriefsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/DSC00267.JPG
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 5th, 2007 17:58
from lynbrook
pdiehl and jkwan are both up 4
rahul is 3-1 losing to daniel cory who is then up 4 aswell
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
May 5th, 2007 17:58
how’s Bishop Kelley MO(Michael O’Connell) doing?
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 5th, 2007 17:59
could you clarify, salman?
what are records so far?
also, schems dont work.
also, i really want to see some old videos….fajflajglkaggas
Posted from: 24.44.63.14
May 5th, 2007 18:00
Coulod someone post the policy results please
Posted from: 151.204.151.107
May 5th, 2007 18:11
Who else is 4-0? And how is Scarsdale doing?
Posted from: 65.163.63.155
May 5th, 2007 18:29
michael o’connell is 2-2. diehl, jkwan, and daniel cory are all up. i think roytman is 3-1.
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 5th, 2007 18:41
and wade?
Posted from: 66.69.140.206
May 5th, 2007 18:41
how are the houstonian’s doing?
patrick mahoney
joe clifton
Becca traber
david donatti
daniel cory (up 4)
Posted from: 65.163.63.155
May 5th, 2007 18:45
videos – im 3-1. ive heard becca and joseph clifton are down 3 though dont quote me on that one.
Posted from: 68.191.49.72
May 5th, 2007 18:52
Some results from Gavin
MillburnGH- 4-0
MillburnUS- 2-2
ScarsdaleMA -4-0
ScarsdaleKT- 2-2
ScarsdaleAY- 1-3
WaltWhitman XZ- 1-3
Lexington SS- 3-1
LexingtonMC- 3-1
Lexington JZ- 2-2
Trinity JN- 3-1
Kinkaid BT- 1-3
Lake Highland JT- 3-1
Ridge ST- 1-3 or 0-4
Posted from: 69.118.230.217
May 5th, 2007 19:04
Rest of Scarsdale:
Ken: 2-2
Harris: 2-2
Marcus:1-3
Nikita: 1-3
Neil: 1-3
Congrats guys, and good luck tomorrow
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 5th, 2007 19:11
how did br go 0-3? the dude’s good.
doing well at the toc seems to be more of a crapshoot than some would like to think
Posted from: 72.255.42.133
May 5th, 2007 19:30
Melanie Plaza is 2-2 going into day 2. (She picked up over Usha Sahay and Dan Jennis and dropped to Jake Nebel and Nathan Abell.)
Posted from: 64.12.122.198
May 5th, 2007 19:45
any policy? i sound like a broken record
Posted from: 208.54.15.129
May 5th, 2007 19:48
In Round 4, I judged one of the best rounds I’ve seen with Becca Traber affirming against Susan Morrow. Sadly, both debaters were 2-down going into the round.
Susan picked up. Regardless WOW, that was an amazing round (thank you to both debaters for awesome performances).
Only at the TOC could that ever be a 2-down matchup in round 4.
Posted from: 72.255.42.133
May 5th, 2007 19:50
Francisco — unfortunately, I couldn’t go back to the campus after the Advisory Committee meeting, but I will get all caught up on policy early in the morning.
Posted from: 75.73.219.162
May 5th, 2007 19:53
Anyone know Edina TB’s rec?
Posted from: 68.191.49.72
May 5th, 2007 20:03
to add one more result to my previous post
Strake Jesuit PM- 2-2
Posted from: 75.73.219.162
May 5th, 2007 20:07
nvm i got it; Edina TB 2-2
Posted from: 72.255.16.231
May 5th, 2007 20:36
“I am ready for tomorrow” – O’Connell in 07
“I am going to win tomorrow.” – O’Connell in 07
“I am not going to &&#$*# lose tomorrow, I believe…” – O’Connell in 07
“Brubes got screwed.” – O’Connell in 07
“TOC is whack, but I will…win it.” – O’Connell in 07
“Today’s question is “What the dick happened to this tournament?”" – O’Connell in 07
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 5th, 2007 20:45
perchance, is anyone recording prelims videos? with the number of really good debaters who probably wont make it to elims, that would be really cool.
Posted from: 69.37.89.96
May 5th, 2007 20:51
Congrats Gavin on going 3-1 so far! =]
Posted from: 69.117.77.212
May 5th, 2007 21:43
Good luck Isaac!
good luck wishes to David Donatti, Dan Jennis, Usha, and Emelie, Maryellen/Jenny in pf.
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 5th, 2007 22:30
COngrats to GNT!!
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 5th, 2007 22:31
is it just me, or are more NE debaters performing significantly better then in years past?
Wade, win this shit
Posted from: 72.193.201.189
May 5th, 2007 23:24
http://www.cross-x.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1450636#post1450636
for all you policy debaters here are the results of the first four rounds at the TOC. Enjoy.
Posted from: 72.255.19.237
May 6th, 2007 03:47
The Northeast cleared four people two years ago (and had a few other 4-3s, I believe).
Posted from: 65.240.174.3
May 6th, 2007 04:22
Hi Juli. Today looks like:
7:30 schems go up
8:30 Rd 5
11:30 Rd 6
2:30 assembly
3:00 – -Round 7
6-8 Announcement of run-offs (if necessary)
Posted from: 199.76.155.237
May 6th, 2007 04:29
:)
Posted from: 208.120.31.99
May 6th, 2007 05:10
Morning Cruz.
Posted from: 199.76.160.39
May 6th, 2007 05:32
roytman is 3-1. in policy gbn fs is 4-0 and gbn vz is 3-1
Posted from: 70.179.64.74
May 6th, 2007 06:06
Is anyone else having trouble viewing the schems? Mine just show a URL to what should be the schem.
Posted from: 24.151.113.144
May 6th, 2007 06:19
keep it up gavin!
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
May 6th, 2007 06:25
The schems are working for me, even w/my ancient browser.
(However, both sets of schems are labeled LD, but the second is PF.)
Thanks, Jennie, for posting the schedule!
Posted from: 205.196.218.26
May 6th, 2007 06:50
[...] May 6, 2007TOC Prelim Pairings Victory Briefs Daily is posting the Public Forum Debate preliminary round pairings. [...]
Posted from: 68.220.216.246
May 6th, 2007 06:58
Good job on posting of pairings for LD and PF, but what about Policy?
Posted from: 24.161.65.27
May 6th, 2007 07:05
GO KAITIE
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 6th, 2007 07:58
does anyone know who won the wade-roytman round?
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 6th, 2007 08:00
along with that:
jkwan-tville
pdiehl-hertz?
Posted from: 71.250.164.203
May 6th, 2007 08:07
im just gonna give a shout out to my fav pf kids, aaron and chris as well as garth w00tz. win dat shiat
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 6th, 2007 08:38
jkwan beat tourville and is now 5-0.
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
May 6th, 2007 08:44
diehl?
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
May 6th, 2007 08:44
Pam Brown and Ali Boyle will close out the tournament.
Posted from: 64.233.239.242
May 6th, 2007 08:47
if vb can get a hold of the results packet at the end of this bad boy, they should scan it up and post it.
Posted from: 204.180.72.93
May 6th, 2007 08:53
What happened in the (down two) round between Michael O’Connell and Elyse Lyons?
Posted from: 12.215.44.140
May 6th, 2007 08:56
anyone know the full results of round 5 yet?
Posted from: 12.215.44.140
May 6th, 2007 08:58
o connell picked up, elyse and maeshal are both out
Posted from: 160.39.208.37
May 6th, 2007 09:02
Lexington:
Jason: 2-3
Micki: 3-2
Sonia: 3-2
Posted from: 12.215.44.140
May 6th, 2007 09:13
anyone know ali huberlie’s record?
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 09:20
yeah posting a results packet on vbd would be awesome. if you could do that for the last toc too that would be great as well
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 09:22
how is lexington kg doing in pofo?
Posted from: 67.87.135.47
May 6th, 2007 09:24
“anyone know ali huberlie’s record?”
She was 3-1 going into her round with Gavin… I don’t know who won…
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 09:37
WHY WONT ROUND 6 SCHEMS WORK
Posted from: 69.115.223.185
May 6th, 2007 09:51
sonia: SO OWNED.
GREG HERTZ FTW. WIN IT. WIN IT. WIN IT.
Posted from: 69.115.223.185
May 6th, 2007 09:58
from greg:
greg is 5-1 (just beat jake nebel)
diehl hit mcgough in the 5-0 round
tourville was 5-0 going into the last round
usha is 4-2
Posted from: 71.135.54.161
May 6th, 2007 10:03
hold up someone posted jkwan beat tourville in the 4-0 round… who won that round?
Posted from: 12.216.111.70
May 6th, 2007 10:04
how is tourville 5-0 if he dropped in the round to jkwan?
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 10:19
wait, are jkwan and pdiehl 6-0 and tville and Ghertz 5-1?
how are wade and mahoney doing?
Posted from: 68.191.49.72
May 6th, 2007 10:31
NewtownGN- 4-2
Some more Results
Marcus NA- 5-1
Scarsdale MA- 5-1 or 4-2
MillburnGH- 5-1
SLP NT- 5-1 (this is confirmed)
Trinity JN- 4-2
Hollis Brookline AH- 4-2 or 3-3
Strake Jesuit PM- 4-2 or 3-3
Lynbrook JK- 6-0
Lynbrook PD- 6-0
Greenhill DM- 5-1
Posted from: 24.6.65.253
May 6th, 2007 10:37
jkwan and diehl, you guys just gotta win 4 more rounds now and you’ll be in finals.
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 10:49
so far, there are only 2 6-0s, whose gunna be hittin em?
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 10:56
shadman was hittin Tville, which means Shadman is 4-2 right?
Posted from: 161.6.207.185
May 6th, 2007 11:00
Shadman is 6-1 :) good job!
Posted from: 198.140.202.1
May 6th, 2007 11:01
YAY SHADMAN!!!
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 6th, 2007 11:04
Mahoney and Jbex are out
Tville is 4-2
jkwan is 6-0
ive been told that pdiehl is 5-1 which is contrary to what is posted so i dunno..
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 6th, 2007 11:16
Does anyone know the results of the Chernick Spiritos round?
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 6th, 2007 11:20
it’s confirmed by jkwan:
jkwan 6-0
mcgough 6-0
pdiehl 5-1
shadman 5-1
tville 4-2
roytman 5-1
Posted from: 130.132.143.49
May 6th, 2007 11:25
that means ghertz is 6-0
Posted from: 75.40.243.26
May 6th, 2007 11:36
Where are the policy round 6 pairings. any updates on who is undefeated and the 4-1 teams.
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 11:38
varun- i think there were pull ups that ppl didnt factor in
Posted from: 67.66.198.155
May 6th, 2007 11:39
no that means he’s 5-1 becuase he hit diehl in round five and diehl went into round six against mcgough. Mcgough is now 6-0 which means that diehl’s only loss is against him. That means he beat ghertz
Posted from: 69.122.39.73
May 6th, 2007 11:47
anyone know how sporkin is doing
Posted from: 76.197.56.54
May 6th, 2007 11:56
so who is confirmed out? names and records please.
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 6th, 2007 11:57
round 7
jkwan v. roytman (pam cady wycoff)
diehl v. shadman (Jay Rye)
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
May 6th, 2007 11:58
St Louis Park:
NT 4-2
CT 4-2
JS 2-4
MG 1-5
Posted from: 199.76.160.14
May 6th, 2007 12:05
I can confirm that Michael O’Connell is currently 4-2; he defeat Patrick Mahoney in Rd. 6 in front of AT). He will be debating Joan Gass of Hockaday in front of Chetan Hertzig.
Posted from: 24.46.207.84
May 6th, 2007 12:05
anyone know about sporkin?
Posted from: 24.161.65.27
May 6th, 2007 12:06
Go Kaitie!
Posted from: 130.132.143.49
May 6th, 2007 12:24
oops sorry i meant that means pdiehl was 6-0 when i said ghertz was 6-0
Posted from: 75.40.243.26
May 6th, 2007 12:26
Any policy updates. please post some results.
Posted from: 68.38.86.185
May 6th, 2007 12:27
good luck to hertz and usha. they’re sick. bring home some hardware
Posted from: 68.164.242.171
May 6th, 2007 12:35
what happened to spiritos?
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 12:38
yeah seriously what happened to spirtos
Posted from: 67.188.127.55
May 6th, 2007 12:40
hows spirtos. hope he’s not out.
Posted from: 199.76.154.7
May 6th, 2007 12:43
David McGough was pulled up to hit Patrick Diehl. As Mr. McGough won the round, he and Patrick are both 5-1.
Eric Sporkin is down three. I believe he lost round 6 to Pam Brown, but my memory could be faulty.
Posted from: 76.102.6.251
May 6th, 2007 12:44
um if jkwan and mcgough are both 6-0 why are they not debating in round 7? i sense that shenanigans are afoot.
Posted from: 68.191.49.72
May 6th, 2007 12:44
From what I’ve heard Spiritos is 4-2
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
May 6th, 2007 12:51
How’s Wade Houston doing?
Posted from: 72.129.179.182
May 6th, 2007 12:57
Go Lincoln Southwest PF!!
Posted from: 66.41.128.87
May 6th, 2007 13:02
Any news on the Pine Crest girls?
Posted from: 199.76.172.5
May 6th, 2007 13:08
No one will talk to me in policy. :o( I will try, however, to get some results from Sarah Heaton and Todd Fine.
Posted from: 24.18.148.106
May 6th, 2007 13:16
i just got off the phone with ghertz:
hertz def abell rd 7
hertz 6-1
abell 5-2
Posted from: 169.229.77.223
May 6th, 2007 13:16
jon,
the link that someone posted above is updating, so just refer ppl to it or steal results from there.
Posted from: 199.76.172.140
May 6th, 2007 13:17
i ended up 4-3
pam is hitting spririt in the 4-2 with spirit negating.
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 13:19
how are the sophs and juniors doing? rahul, moerner, etc.?
Posted from: 76.102.6.251
May 6th, 2007 13:24
From cross-x:
Round 7 Pairings – Teams with 2 losses or Less – There will be no run off rounds – there is a clear break to the Top 16.
Centerville CJ (4-2) v. Caddo Magnet GG (4-2) – Ed Lee
Hooch IS (4-2) v. College Prep KP (4-2) – David Heidt
Dallas Jesuit OS (4-2) v. Pace Academy CF (4-2) – Rachel Schy
Edgemont NW (4-2) v. Pine Crest BM (4-2) – Blake Johnson
GBS LP (5-1) v. GBN FS (6-0) – Brent Culpepper
Greenhill AH (4-2) v. Hooch LP (4-2) – Michael Antonucci
Groves KW (5-1) v. GBN VZ (5-1) – Hays Watson
Gulliver Prep BM (5-1) v. Westminster SW (5-1) – Alex Iftmie
Colleyville Heritage DH (4-2) v. Rowland Hall St Marks (4-2) – Luke Hill
Lexington BL (4-2) v. Kinkaid LS (4-2) – Aimi Hamrie
MBA BD (4-2) v. Woodward MR (4-2) – Aaron Timmons
Woodlands LM (5-1) v. St Marks BS (5-1) – Mike Jones
Posted from: 128.36.68.27
May 6th, 2007 13:33
i want to congratulate my boy greg hertz for being the first from nj to clear at the toc in a very, very long time
Posted from: 146.115.112.72
May 6th, 2007 13:48
team scorpion doesn’t take your shit
team scorpion will f*CK you up
team scorpion is always right behind you, even if you turn around
Posted from: 71.135.54.161
May 6th, 2007 13:52
jkwan 7-0
its all you baby
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 6th, 2007 13:52
Jkwan beat Roytman and is now 7-0.
bring it home baby.
Posted from: 69.249.79.130
May 6th, 2007 14:01
GREG HERTZ!!! you are a god, congrats on breaking at TOC’s, usha idk your record but hope you are doing well too!!!
Posted from: 68.164.242.171
May 6th, 2007 14:02
an we nominate videos to be recorded in elims?
if so, any round with greg hertz would be awesome
Posted from: 24.6.65.253
May 6th, 2007 14:05
jkwannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Posted from: 199.76.169.89
May 6th, 2007 14:11
Team Scorpion ftw
Garth Goldwater is going to be PFD champion
Posted from: 128.135.121.210
May 6th, 2007 14:13
Props to Mahoney and Byron for being all around ballers. I’m sorry it went down this way, but the big dance always shuts out some championship quality debaters (e.g. Ari Parker last year). I feel your pain, but you guys had great careers. Congrats…
Posted from: 199.76.160.211
May 6th, 2007 14:14
go diehllll
Posted from: 70.146.98.44
May 6th, 2007 14:18
THE SUN RISES ON KENTUCKY
Posted from: 68.38.86.185
May 6th, 2007 14:18
usha is 4-3 she dropped in round 7. unlucky but u still rock for a junior
Posted from: 199.76.175.86
May 6th, 2007 14:25
4-3
good luck to those who break
Posted from: 68.252.238.219
May 6th, 2007 14:28
Big ups to all the GBN teams. 3 teams come, 3 teams break.
Posted from: 161.253.35.100
May 6th, 2007 14:35
congrats to jake and ravi on being 5-2
Posted from: 67.83.102.152
May 6th, 2007 14:37
GO BICKEL AND GIBSON!!!!
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 14:43
two questions:
1 could ppl start posting those who broke?
2 when do outround pairings come out?
Posted from: 216.51.179.190
May 6th, 2007 14:45
Wat to go Valley and Dowling! Nall and Allen should have a real chance.
Posted from: 70.111.76.88
May 6th, 2007 14:50
AARON BICKEL AND CHRIS GIBSON WILL WIN THE PF TOC
Posted from: 70.250.145.123
May 6th, 2007 14:54
shaggys freaking awesome, !
way to go arti your doing GREAT!!
CONGRATS TO BOTH!!! :)
Posted from: 24.215.215.98
May 6th, 2007 14:54
I don’t mean to question Eric Palmer’s integrity, but shouldn’t it be a conflict of interest for him to judge Huberlie seeing as NSD just hired her?
Posted from: 67.66.198.155
May 6th, 2007 14:59
Does anyone know what happened in the round between matt aks and dcore?
Posted from: 69.115.223.185
May 6th, 2007 15:02
usha, congrats on at least a 4-3 rec. that’s better than most people can say.
greg, if you don’t win this thing you are sooooo not invited to my birthday party lawl lawl
Posted from: 70.128.84.205
May 6th, 2007 15:03
clearly matt aks won…he is 6-1 as opposed to a measley 5-2
Posted from: 71.34.177.9
May 6th, 2007 15:04
i don’t think its dowling nall/allen…. its just nall and someone else since it is “dowling kn “
Posted from: 70.128.84.205
May 6th, 2007 15:04
the post was a response to andrew and the measley 5-2 record was for dcory
Posted from: 128.135.121.210
May 6th, 2007 15:05
In Policy, Hooch IS is breaking (5-2), and they beat CPS KP (4-3).
Posted from: 76.17.207.101
May 6th, 2007 15:05
Any news on how Edina TB or any other MN teams did?
Posted from: 171.64.142.251
May 6th, 2007 15:07
From a phone convo-
run-offs:
Joan Gass vs. Ravi Sankar
Joseph Miller vs. Mike Spirtos
Nick Tourville vs. Mike Roytman
Posted from: 69.249.94.148
May 6th, 2007 15:08
greg! awesome job, be the first to bring the toc victory to millburn(even if it’s not enough that you were the first to qualify and break at toc’s from our school)
usha, way to come out with a winning record, that’s definitely more than good enough for a junior. your still awesome
Posted from: 147.9.40.122
May 6th, 2007 15:13
Joseph, I’m glad you made missing prom worth it.
Posted from: 66.25.54.81
May 6th, 2007 15:13
Congrats to the large Texas contingent that will be breaking (D-Cor, Nathan, David, and Taarini), and good luck to Joan in the bubble round.
Posted from: 24.5.141.1
May 6th, 2007 15:15
Is anyone gonna tape run-off rounds? They should
Posted from: 199.76.168.206
May 6th, 2007 15:23
To Huh?
Just so you know, I was hired to work at NSD in November…and there are many NSD staffers in the pool, as well as VBI, NDF, etc. staffers. Judges, Eric included, are trusted to have enough respect for the activity to ignore summertime activities.
Posted from: 71.250.164.203
May 6th, 2007 15:25
DOLPH HEG IS ON THE OFFENSIVE
AND CONGRATS TO TEAM SCORPION FOR MAKING IT TO QUARTERS THUS FAR
Posted from: 71.250.164.203
May 6th, 2007 15:26
PS: I HOPE YOUR MATCHING EARINGS BRING YOU SUCCESS. GOD SPEED GOOD SIRS AND MADAMS.
Posted from: 75.73.219.162
May 6th, 2007 15:28
Go Joseph!!!!!!
Posted from: 199.76.156.186
May 6th, 2007 15:28
garber is taping the roytman-tourville runoff for nsd
Posted from: 65.12.227.240
May 6th, 2007 15:29
congrats to jake on a guaranteed octas presence and to ravi on at least being in the bubble…sick work guys
Posted from: 209.98.146.179
May 6th, 2007 15:41
Nick – congrats, and choose well in the bubble round!
Catherine, congrats to you as well on going 4-3 at TOC as a freshman – WOW!
Posted from: 67.35.116.6
May 6th, 2007 15:44
Good luck to Jake Nebel, David McGough, Matt Aks, and Mike Roytman … the elimination rounds will be hell.
Posted from: 24.242.235.253
May 6th, 2007 15:47
ravi and jake are my heros
Posted from: 75.73.214.91
May 6th, 2007 15:49
MAks: bring it home for NDF!
Miller: bring it home for MN!
Tourville: bring it home for the Twin Cities area suburbs!
Thorsen/Spirtos: bring it home for whatever you represent!
Posted from: 209.98.146.179
May 6th, 2007 15:50
Best of luck to Joseph Miller also – go Minnesota!
Posted from: 64.219.76.62
May 6th, 2007 15:57
I don’t know much about PF, but i do know Brentwood’s Matt Stern and Chris K. are really awesome dudes, GOOD JOB at breaking and make the tree-climbers union proud!
Posted from: 199.76.172.239
May 6th, 2007 16:02
THERE IS A SPECTRE THAT HAUNTS THE TOUNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS…THE SPECTRE OF EMP
props to my teammates, especially MAKs and Tatzee; the former for incorporating the dept. of logical interrogation into his rounds and the latter for making it all the way to a rough 4-2 bubble round
Posted from: 68.196.112.158
May 6th, 2007 16:03
GIBSON BICKEL WILL NOT BE STOPPED. RANDOLPH BG PWNS FACES. everything else that panda has said reiterated as well.
Posted from: 72.255.32.95
May 6th, 2007 16:06
dowling kn is the team of megan koester and the nall.
Posted from: 75.73.198.41
May 6th, 2007 16:17
these runoff rounds are ridiculous, its sad that so much talent won’t be in the field of 16
Posted from: 70.146.98.44
May 6th, 2007 16:25
Congratulations to ravi and jake on what can only be considered a phenomenal / massive break out. Good work gentlemen.
bring it home lynbrook
Posted from: 72.181.4.32
May 6th, 2007 16:36
daniel cory ftw
Posted from: 65.40.244.170
May 6th, 2007 16:38
Go Spirtos!
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 16:53
i really hope vbd tapes rounds.
perhaps, if you guys taped all the outrounds, you could sell a dvd of toc outrounds
Posted from: 69.120.236.168
May 6th, 2007 17:11
There definitely is a shortage in videos… we were trying to teach incoming 8th graders how to debate (so they are all ready for 9th grade), but the only video we could find was Diehl vs. Tourville. We decided that we actually wanted the eighth graders to stick around for next year, so we didn’t show them the world’s fastest theory debate.
Posted from: 160.39.208.37
May 6th, 2007 17:13
Selling a DVD of the TOC outrounds? How about putting them on google video…
Posted from: 209.98.146.179
May 6th, 2007 17:15
Nick Tourville won the bubble round – yay, Nick!
Posted from: 76.187.124.229
May 6th, 2007 17:16
WOW So many awesome people I know that broke!
Congrats to all with shoutouts to McGough, Nabell, Lindsay, HockaJG, Allison Huberlie, and Taarini!
Posted from: 208.251.244.162
May 6th, 2007 17:17
For whoever wanted Congress info, Forensics Online has the semis postings here: http://forensicsonline.net/msgboard/viewtopic.php?t=6819
Posted from: 76.199.98.159
May 6th, 2007 17:17
to fisch:
i know you can find videos from last year’s TOC on vbd, in addition to that i think you can buy videos of demonstration debates from VBD. I don’t know about the videos that VBD sells (i haven’t watched any), but there are quite a few TOC videos that are extremely educational
hope that helps
p.s-i hope there’s a cali closeout, cause that would be sweet.
Posted from: 68.108.21.165
May 6th, 2007 17:18
Who won the Joseph-Spirtos round?
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 6th, 2007 17:19
Go Foothill AF!
Go Spiritos!
Questions:
-When will runoff rounds for LD be held?
-Is VB taping outrounds, if so which ones?
-If VB is taping run-offs, which ones?
Also, when can I expect to see videos posted?
(remember guys no mic mishaps!?)
Posted from: 72.181.4.32
May 6th, 2007 17:20
i hear it’s nick, spirtos, and joan in octs
Posted from: 70.111.76.88
May 6th, 2007 17:22
For anyone interested in PF results (from pfdebate.com)
[...]
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 6th, 2007 17:22
To Fisch:
On google video there is a round between Deihl and P.Rai in addition to finals of the Rising Star pod from the last years voices round robin. The later is fast but no where near as fast as Deihl vs. Tourville.
If you want a quality slower debate, check the video on the VBD of David Weeks vs. P.Rai from last years TOC (semis round).
Posted from: 128.36.68.27
May 6th, 2007 17:23
I also want to congratulate Aaron Bickel and Chris Gibson for their PF success! I started you guys as LDers and I know you found it somewhat frustrating, but I’m glad to see your skills have translated to another style of debate. Bring home the championship fellas.
Posted from: 71.250.164.203
May 6th, 2007 17:34
levinson, for you, we will chase cup.
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
May 6th, 2007 17:38
Also in response to “huh?”
Rahul is attending NSD so there should be no conflict of interest anyways.
Posted from: 24.161.65.27
May 6th, 2007 17:43
Congrats Kaitie
Posted from: 69.120.236.168
May 6th, 2007 17:54
THANKS SO MUCH! Rai vs. Weeks is amazing to show the novices. You guys are awesome!
PS- Congrats to everyone just for making it to the tournament. Can’t wait to see the video!
Posted from: 64.12.117.11
May 6th, 2007 17:57
anyone know what the record is for the number of debaters one school clears at toc? Also, good luck to Greg and congratulations to Gavin on a strong end to a great year.
Posted from: 66.25.54.81
May 6th, 2007 18:07
If you’re looking for a slow video that is pretty easy to understand, I suggest the Jeffers v. Dudley from the bubble round from last year’s TOC. If you’re showing it to novices, it works well as there is no theory, no spreading, and the arugments are on the whole, pretty easy to follow.
Posted from: 72.255.43.47
May 6th, 2007 18:11
To Roytman and those watching the RFDs of SLP NT v. GBN MR:
Given that we have the reputation of liking grammatical positions, I wanted to set the record straight and acknowledge that mass nouns do exist and that they are not always collective nouns. I was wrong to conflate the two (though “standards” is not a mass noun). Great job, Michael, on a strong run at the TOC.
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 6th, 2007 18:16
I probably sound like a broken record, but when will videos be posted?
Posted from: 24.243.26.60
May 6th, 2007 18:19
traditionally, videos usually are uploaded two weeks after the tournament
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 18:22
if possible, i think it would be in vbd’s interest to post videos earlier and ride the interest in toc now
Posted from: 208.120.31.99
May 6th, 2007 18:24
The Wolfish/Leiter video round was excellent
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 18:33
nc – is that round still up to watch? are any of wolfish’s videos up?
Posted from: 68.164.242.171
May 6th, 2007 18:42
I think the only videos still up are the ones from last years TOC.
Posted from: 69.233.37.107
May 6th, 2007 18:44
only hess vs weeks in the final round is still functional. at least on my computer.
Posted from: 169.229.77.223
May 6th, 2007 18:47
videos,
awesome as it would be to get the videos right this moment, keep in mind that the people who would be uploading them are actually at the tournament right now. Making us wait a bit while they get back and get some much-needed rest really isn’t that terrible, is it?
Posted from: 69.120.236.168
May 6th, 2007 18:50
Why doesn’t Victory Briefs put their videos on Google Video? It would be easier to access…
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 6th, 2007 18:50
Right this moment would probably be bad…competitively I mean. Not that people shouldn’t prep multiple cases, but at any rate their potential opp’s would be able to block the videoed case word for word…which could potentially be bad.
Although, I don’t think the TOC is 2 weeks draining? I’m not complaining, just anxious.
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 6th, 2007 18:51
To Fisch: Seconded.
Posted from: 76.197.56.54
May 6th, 2007 18:54
who won the runoffs?
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 6th, 2007 18:59
According to an earlier post:
Hockaday JG def. Trinity Prep RS
St. Louis Park NT def. Glenbrook North MR
Meadows MS def. Highland Park [MN] JM (JM)
Posted from: 63.252.68.146
May 6th, 2007 19:06
I would like to congratulate Michael Roytman for a fantastic senior year. While he was consistently a top-notch performer, it always seemed as if the debate community overlooked him. Nevertheless, Michael improved tremendously between his junior and senior year.
Mischa, I look forward to many Chipotle lunches in Champaign over the next three years.
Ari Parker
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 6th, 2007 19:09
Remember that’s not confirmed, it was just what a previous poster had said. It could just be like what happened last year where a bunch of people said Dweeks def. Shess 4-3 and the reality said differently, but it might not. I just wanted to stress I have no idea if that’s true or not, it’s best to wait for word from Cruz or someone.
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 19:10
to ankur:
true. i don’t mean to seem rushy, or anything–im not saying you should put them up now. i’m just saying that two weeks seems rather long–and that if possible, it seems beneficial to all parties to get them up sooner, not necessarily this minute.
Posted from: 129.15.131.248
May 6th, 2007 19:12
are there videos from last years TOC on the site now? if so,where?
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 19:23
Roytman was a cool guy
Posted from: 24.6.65.253
May 6th, 2007 19:24
gluck tomorrow diehl and jkwan.
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 19:27
the videos i know of online:
various toc last year on vbd now
diehl/tourville on google video
diehl/rai on google video
a bunch of videos on snfild.org (cass, rai, adwait parker, levi, mangus, etc.)
any others?
Posted from: 12.181.253.226
May 6th, 2007 19:41
sohail,
there is life after debate
i am still alive man
haha
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 6th, 2007 19:50
to videos:
Finals of the Rising Star Pod from last years Voices RR is broken into 3 parts on google video.
There is also another vid of two mountain view kids on google video.
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 19:52
haha i just said “was” cuz i haven’t talked to you in forever
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 19:55
kwan could potentially hit gass tourville or spirtos, who is the most probable one?
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 6th, 2007 20:05
If Kwan hits Spiritos I’m unofficially obligating VB to film it. (ie please!)
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 20:21
if that happens, it will be like the 3rd time this year (CPS, Stanford being the previous 2)
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 6th, 2007 20:21
they didnt hit at stanford, it was berkeley.
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 6th, 2007 20:35
my bad, both balla tournaments, i meant berk
Posted from: 75.73.219.166
May 6th, 2007 20:39
Congrats Mr. Miller
Posted from: 70.128.84.205
May 6th, 2007 21:03
lets try to videotape good rounds…not the one mentioned above
Posted from: 169.232.243.196
May 6th, 2007 21:19
“duh”:
Jkwan is top seed at this years TOC. He deserves more respect than that.
…I don’t know about Spirtos.
Posted from: 150.108.232.25
May 6th, 2007 22:05
CONGRATS GREG, MATT AND ALLISON ON MAKING IT TO THE SWEET 16!!!
AWESOME JOB MELANIE ON REACHING YOUR GOAL!!!! I GUESS I OWE YOU YET ANOTHER ICE CREAM!!!
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 23:14
by the way, what is the status of the old toc videos (i.e. wolfish, etc.)?
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 6th, 2007 23:15
among those who broke to octas/bubbles, who are juniors?
Posted from: 76.102.6.251
May 6th, 2007 23:59
if im correct: both trinity, lindsay dolan, joan gass, shadman zaman
Posted from: 75.24.81.225
May 7th, 2007 00:04
congratulations to stacy thomas on yet another huge accomplishment…from record number of qualifiers to TFA state to highest number of debaters clearing to elimination rounds at the TOC. way to go.
Posted from: 161.253.35.100
May 7th, 2007 00:25
just to clarify about what asmitty said–ravi from trinity is a junior, jake is a sophomore
Posted from: 146.115.112.72
May 7th, 2007 03:04
team scorpion’s venom is swift and deadly
Posted from: 72.255.44.132
May 7th, 2007 05:23
now prai…im not that bad
:)
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
May 7th, 2007 06:10
Keep refreshing to find out the latest as it is announced.
It is harder to keep refreshing a thread that already has so many comments – it would be better to have the Breakfast of Champions commentary in a new thread … jmo
Ideally Jon will provide new threads for octos, quarters, etc, as he did last year – that makes it easier to see at a glance if there’s new info/breaking news on the page, other than comments.
Posted from: 72.255.50.192
May 7th, 2007 06:37
Hi Juli – Worry not, I will be doing that. I meant to refresh while I post immediate coverage of the Breakfast.
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
May 7th, 2007 06:40
Thanks!
Posted from: 65.10.236.117
May 7th, 2007 06:47
Congrats to Ravi and Jake … that is incredible (ps. ravi i did tell you this was going to happen)
Posted from: 72.255.31.143
May 7th, 2007 06:49
VIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOS
the bubble round that mr roytman lost was a 2-1, palmer conrad *lawrence. it was a pleasure to work w/ mike this weekend and i echo ari’s comments. there arent really any videos but i thought i needed a way to draw attention to this.
VIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOSVIDEOS
Posted from: 74.224.172.232
May 7th, 2007 07:39
One correction Jon…
4th Speaker in Policy is KATHY BOWEN from Gulliver. Just a minor misspelling.
BUT THANKS FOR THE COVERAGE!
Posted from: 207.235.225.1
May 7th, 2007 07:55
Congratulations for doing so well colleyville!!!
Posted from: 72.255.50.192
May 7th, 2007 08:04
Wes Craven has been recording prelim and elimination rounds for VBD throughout the weekend.
He will then be returning to taping A Nightmare on Elm Street XXII.
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
May 7th, 2007 08:05
Octos pairings were posted about an hour ago – are the rounds in progress?
Posted from: 205.134.251.132
May 7th, 2007 08:08
[...] LEXINGTON, Ky. – Live coverage of the Breakfast of Champions, and of the preliminary rounds, can be found on this article. Said article will also serve as the location for the final results of the tournament when the time comes. [...]
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 7th, 2007 08:14
Jon, do you know which rounds he taped?
Thank you.
Posted from: 205.173.47.254
May 7th, 2007 08:55
congrats on 1st speaker patrick. has any team ever gotten 1st and 2nd seed at the toc before?
Posted from: 76.102.6.251
May 7th, 2007 08:57
my attempt at a bracket:
1 lynbrook jk v. 16 slp nt
2 lynbrook pd v. 15 meadows ms
3 scarsdale ma v. 14. hockaday jg
4. greenhill dm v. 13 trinity jn
5. milburn gh v. 12. hockaday ld
6. marcus na v. 11. sacred heart sz
7. hollis-brookline ah v. 10. lake highland jt
8. hockaday tv. v. 9. jersey village dc
Posted from: 205.134.251.132
May 7th, 2007 10:34
[...] Congratulations to the eight quarterfinalists in Lincoln-Douglas debate! Archived coverage of the Breakfast of Champions, and of the preliminary rounds, can be found on this article. Said article will also serve as the location for the final results of the tournament when the time comes. [...]
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 7th, 2007 14:17
Congrats to both of you! I can’t wait to watch the video.
(this is the part of the thread where people start chanting names…enjoy it)
Posted from: 76.17.207.101
May 7th, 2007 14:18
GBN FS vs Centerville JC
Woodlands LM vs Greenhill AH
Westminster SW vs Gulliver BM
Pace CF vs Pine Crest MB
Posted from: 66.25.54.81
May 7th, 2007 14:22
McGough ftw
Posted from: 74.224.52.12
May 7th, 2007 14:23
the above quarters pairings are wrong.
but one semifinal rd in policy is:
Woodlands LM v Westminster SW
Posted from: 205.173.47.254
May 7th, 2007 14:23
i usually wouldnt care, but win it diehl so we can keep the title in cali
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 7th, 2007 14:24
WEST COAST BABY!
Posted from: 72.255.36.137
May 7th, 2007 14:29
The fianl round panel has undergone some changes. It consists of:
Jon Cruz
Wesley Craven
Nick Coburn-Palo
Victor Jih
Jason Baldwin
Anjan Choudhury
Beena Koshy
Josh Anderson
Pam Cady-Wycoff
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 7th, 2007 14:31
Who’s filming for VBD if both Jon and Wes are judging?
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 7th, 2007 14:38
Bietz prolly?
Posted from: 67.66.198.155
May 7th, 2007 14:48
its texas v. cali again, who would have thunk of it?
Posted from: 68.154.105.93
May 7th, 2007 14:51
Pace vs. Pine Crest or Greenhill anybody?
Posted from: 69.107.67.193
May 7th, 2007 14:51
good luck on adapting to that panel. it seems to have a wide range of philosophies. congrats to both debaters for getting so far and by putting great ends to great careers
Posted from: 76.171.7.147
May 7th, 2007 14:52
I echo ari’s comments hold heartedly. Too often very smart, strategic debaters don’t get all the respect that their skill merits. Usually these are people who either become amazing teachers, or kick ass in college doing more important (and fruitful) endeavors.
I know I definitely saw Roytman’s quantum leap in improvement during senior year.
AB
Posted from: 76.102.6.251
May 7th, 2007 14:58
pace v pine crest wasnt a round. rounds were:
gbn def. centerville
westminister def. gulliver prep
woodlands def. pine crest
greenhill v. pace (still up in the air)
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 7th, 2007 15:00
Greenhill def. Pace
Posted from: 66.69.159.154
May 7th, 2007 15:04
Congrats to David and Patrick for making it to finals. I love the way these two debate rounds.
Also, congrats to all of the kids from Texas who cleared. You all represent the state well.
Posted from: 76.186.227.63
May 7th, 2007 15:08
what a fantastic final round match-up…i can’t wait to see the video!
you guys have both had amazing years. good luck
Posted from: 76.197.56.54
May 7th, 2007 15:20
Congrats Patrick, bring the title to Cali for yet another year.
Posted from: 69.12.136.2
May 7th, 2007 15:29
ball it up diehl. (not like he needs me or anyone else to tell him that)
Posted from: 75.73.189.204
May 7th, 2007 15:32
Diehl wins, 7-2
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 7th, 2007 15:33
Diehl wins finals of TOC on a 7-2 decision.
Posted from: 72.129.179.182
May 7th, 2007 15:35
Wow. Which judges dissented?
Posted from: 24.6.65.253
May 7th, 2007 15:35
thanks for fulfilling my wishes man. AMAZING run. lynbrook now has a toc title!!!!
Posted from: 75.73.189.204
May 7th, 2007 15:35
I’m told Beena and Wes dissented
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 7th, 2007 15:36
Wes Craven and Beena Koshy sat out.
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 7th, 2007 15:37
oh damn, my bad john
guess im getting my info a little too late.
Posted from: 75.73.189.204
May 7th, 2007 15:37
Wow so congratulations to Diehl and Lynbrook.
Posted from: 71.135.54.161
May 7th, 2007 15:37
diehl diehl diehl diehl diehl diehl
congrats man
Posted from: 72.129.179.182
May 7th, 2007 15:38
Top Speaker and Champion. Hardcore.
Posted from: 169.229.77.223
May 7th, 2007 15:40
Congrats to Diehl for a well-deserved win, and for finally getting Lynbrook the TOC title you guys deserve.
So, which CFL kid wins it next year? :P
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 7th, 2007 15:42
Congrats Diehl
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 7th, 2007 15:42
…let’s get those vids up!
Posted from: 72.255.42.36
May 7th, 2007 15:51
Congrats to Patrick and his coaches Dave and Corbin! A fine win.
Also a big congrats to David and his coaches AT and Neil… two finalists in three years. Good work.
I\’ll also say that these two were definitely amongst the top two on the circuit all year. It is great that the final round could be such a nice wrap-up to the circuit season.
Posted from: 71.34.187.106
May 7th, 2007 15:51
Congrats Diehl- on both top speaker and champ.
Posted from: 69.12.136.2
May 7th, 2007 15:52
congrats to diehl and all of lynbrook’s TOC crew. wow…
Posted from: 207.158.66.162
May 7th, 2007 15:52
Congratulations David and Patrick!
Good job, David!
Posted from: 166.109.0.155
May 7th, 2007 15:54
Nice job, Diehl.
Posted from: 69.208.172.146
May 7th, 2007 15:57
Way to go Diehl!
Posted from: 192.223.163.6
May 7th, 2007 15:59
Congrats to both Patrick and David. I’m glad I had a chance to judge this round several months ago at St. Marks.
Posted from: 24.243.26.60
May 7th, 2007 16:05
Congrats to David on short but very successful LD career, i always looekd forward to judging you.
Additionally, I don’t know who to thank but its pretty cool that unlike previous years, the site never went down due to the heavy amounts of traffic that it always undergoes during coverage of this tournament.
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
May 7th, 2007 16:10
Narayan and Rohit will follow in Diel and Jkwan’s footsteps in the upcoming year.
Posted from: 24.6.65.253
May 7th, 2007 16:11
i would also like to give a shoutout to khalessi for beating the toc champ. a feat none of us may never accomplish.
Posted from: 68.108.21.165
May 7th, 2007 16:16
Congrats, Diehl!
Posted from: 24.7.83.13
May 7th, 2007 16:27
Congrats to Patrick for keeping the title in the Bay Area!
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 7th, 2007 16:32
yeah dfk beat diehl. i think that proves who is the REAL best debater in the nation.
Posted from: 71.60.200.227
May 7th, 2007 16:34
Any idea on when the videos will be posted from the TOC LD rounds? Thanks for the great coverage!
Posted from: 65.1.172.110
May 7th, 2007 16:39
congrats herschel patel for placing 2nd in congress and po’ing ! awesome job
Posted from: 67.101.69.203
May 7th, 2007 16:40
congrats, patrick. excellent debater. I’m glad I was able to judge you this year.
Posted from: 72.255.50.192
May 7th, 2007 16:42
I wasn’t expecting to only have two minutes or so to speak, so my comments weren’t quite as “eloquent” or organized as I would have liked. But I would like to reiterate (more clearly, I hope), what I wanted to impart to both debaters after the round: thank you for an excellent season and for a really top-rate final round. Congratulations to you, and to your coaches, Dave, Corbin, Aaron, and Neil on an awesome conclusion to what has been an awesome season for both of you.
Importantly, I’m excited that the round will be shared with everyone online, because I think it was really accessible and demonstrative of serious debate skills.
Great job, and again, congratulations!
Posted from: 72.181.4.32
May 7th, 2007 16:45
congrats to patrick and mcgough, and to dcor for making it all the way to semis.
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 7th, 2007 16:46
For those who were there for the taping, are the rfd’s included in the video?
Posted from: 75.55.212.176
May 7th, 2007 16:55
Congratulations Patrick :)
Posted from: 69.231.17.70
May 7th, 2007 16:56
“yeah dfk beat diehl. i think that proves who is the REAL best debater in the nation.”
Diehl is, apparently. What, is everyone who ever beat Diehl supposed to be recognized as the “REAL best debater?”
Posted from: 169.232.219.100
May 7th, 2007 17:00
patrick is a baller.
and jon is awesome.
and lynbrook is as always, my favorite.
Posted from: 24.242.235.253
May 7th, 2007 17:01
wow, he really is the real diehl
Posted from: 71.141.240.134
May 7th, 2007 17:09
Which sems round was taped?
And grats to diehl for keeping the title in the bay.
Posted from: 65.40.244.170
May 7th, 2007 17:10
Congrats Diehl!!!!!
Posted from: 71.198.207.233
May 7th, 2007 17:12
congrats patrick. You still have my stats book though and now i can’t study for the ap stats test. not to guilt you and put a damper on your day of course. congrats!
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 7th, 2007 17:17
to chiang:
first, sir, i think that the fact that DFK beat a negating Diehl shows that DFK is better. Diehl’s lost, like, two neg rounds. The rounds DFK has lost against other debaters were obviously illegit.
second, the post was jovial in nature. nice job construing it as totally serious.
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 7th, 2007 17:19
Jon:
What are all the debates that ended up getting taped? When are they getting put up?
I really appreciate this. The videos service really helps those who didn’t get to go to a lot of tourneys.
Posted from: 216.196.165.48
May 7th, 2007 17:36
lots of congratulations and thanks to come in a later post, but just for the sake of information, my semis round with diehl was:
3-2: Conrad, Cory, Craven, Wright*, Timmons*
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 7th, 2007 17:42
Congrats to PDiehl
and to Matt Aks for reppin the NE, youz a balla
Posted from: 68.194.242.222
May 7th, 2007 17:42
Congrats all!
Posted from: 68.107.238.89
May 7th, 2007 17:55
does matt aks debate like matt shields did
Posted from: 70.247.24.219
May 7th, 2007 18:08
if u fucking keep on commenting abt the videos then they’ll never get up…stop bothering the man
Posted from: 204.180.72.93
May 7th, 2007 18:18
That final-round panel is interesting, was the final round like finals of Emory?
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 7th, 2007 18:30
jkwan and pdiehl,
both your performances will be hard to top next year,but then again, it is possible.
Lynbrook closeout anyone? =]
But seriously, congrats to both of you guys who have been mine and narayan’s role models since day one, we greatly appreciate everything you’ve done for us.
thanks for bringing Lynbrook its first TOC title
lynbrook hege 07.
Posted from: 24.6.65.253
May 7th, 2007 18:36
I second rohit on the inspirational roles you guys have played for us this year. You guys have been absolutely phenomenal teammates that I think anyone would die to have. I think rohit would agree with me that our successes would have never come about without either of you guys.
Posted from: 76.17.154.147
May 7th, 2007 18:37
congrats to all who broke!
and those late in outrounds, what a tough tournament(as always)!
Posted from: 150.108.232.25
May 7th, 2007 18:41
CONGRATS TO ALI, GREG AND MATT FOR CLEARING, AND PATRICK FOR WINNING!!!
AND YAY JON CRUZ FOR NOT SQUIRRELLING!!!
:)
Posted from: 66.118.242.5
May 7th, 2007 18:44
congrats to a few people individually:
first, huge congrats to the lynbrook squad. jkwan for being top seed and being a part of a sweet duo with patrick. congrats to patrick for winning and being an all around great person… also huge congrats to mr. mcginnis and my good friend corbin.
secondly- congrats to jake nebel. i don’t really know him but do know that he was the former NDF NOVICE DEMO ROUND CHAMPION!!! Breaking at TOC as Sophomore is pretty intense so congrats on that.
third- congrats to nathan and the marcus squad. I really think that the marcus program is a great example of hard work and dedication. good job kris and i have your ten bucks from dinner the other night.
fourth- good job justin. hope you learned some life lessons from debate and made some good friends.
and finally- thanks to jon cruz for providing outstanding coverage to people like me who couldn’t make it out to lexington this year. you provide a great service and do it week in and week out. thanks for providing great coverage…
Posted from: 71.250.164.203
May 7th, 2007 18:57
to persdon,
NO.
ups to spirtos for being spirtos. and kamil for being a b34st
Posted from: 128.164.102.152
May 7th, 2007 18:58
Haven’t checked this site for a while but CONGRATULATIONS to all the debaters who did well.
This is meant as a serious question and not meant in any way to take away from Patrick (who I have had the chance to judge a few times and have always been impressed) BUT:
Does it say anything about the current state of LD debate that a debater who goes from a mediocre policy career (through his 1st two years at least) to a win at TOC only 2 years later, the biggest tournament of the year?
Posted from: 72.255.10.139
May 7th, 2007 18:59
we would like to add that diehl’s toc victory means nothing in the face of jkwan’s great second semester and overall debate skill. His writing skill and superiority in argumentation turns us on and sometimes even makes us hard.
love,
your greatest fans,
all the nonwhite kids at lynbrook
WE LOVE YOU JKAWN
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 7th, 2007 19:05
to landon:
uh…not sure what your point is. it might prove that policy and ld are very different.
seriously, this isn’t the forum. it’s not even a particularly worthwhile topic of discussion.
Posted from: 68.107.238.89
May 7th, 2007 19:12
Panda care to elaborate?
Posted from: 68.56.134.158
May 7th, 2007 19:25
Listen I know I’m the first one here to ask this question, but when are the videos…
seriously though, this is addressed to Mr. Cruz, who I don’t know when he might possibly see this, but if you could give a timetable of some sort and list who you taped for us to at least salivate at the pavlovian concept of toc videos, I think that would mitigate all the constant requests and be really nice overall. just whenever you get the time. I personally look forward to these videos ever since Jeffers-Dudley from last year, so any videos would be awesome. Thank you for posting videos Mr. Cruz, this I cannot say enough.
Also congrats to everyone who qualified, and broke, and won the tournament.
Posted from: 71.250.164.203
May 7th, 2007 19:30
STFU ABOUT THE MOTHER FUCKING VIDEOS. WHEN THEY’RE HERE, YOU’LL FUCKING KNOW.
a/t persdon: aks goes faster and usually puts out more arguments, some of which, are procedural in nature
Posted from: 72.255.41.107
May 7th, 2007 19:39
Congratulations to everyone who cleared, and specifically to Nick, Nathan, JKwan, and Patrick on great tournament performances and debate careers in general.
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
May 7th, 2007 19:49
Congratulations to Patrick and Jon from Lynbrook! What an accomplishment for a team to have two such highly talented debaters – yay, Dave!
Congrats to Nick for bringing home to St Louis Park our first TOC trophy … we are so proud of you!
Finally, congrats to all our debaters from SLP who worked so hard to come to TOC this year, as well as to Christian – you’re all talented and accomplished, and I hope you were able to enjoy the TOC experience.
Posted from: 130.132.143.49
May 7th, 2007 20:20
Seriously, props tp panda, STOP whining about the videos. If you work on wallstreet and come home at midnight and your kids want to go play tennis, you would be pretty pissed and tired. Many of the people at ToC have been judging and running tab, as well as taking care of many other things.
Unless Cruz has amnesia, HE IS NOT GOING TO FORGET TO PUT UP THE VIDEO, and they will be up soon. If you are too impatient to wait for them, then i wonder how you wait for schems for new rounds
Posted from: 70.137.136.157
May 7th, 2007 20:32
Congratulations, Patrick, on bringing home the trophy, Jon Kwan for your stellar performance this whole year, and Dave and Corbin for your commitment to debate! Like last year, Patrick and Jon have demonstrated the power of team work. You are all an inspiration!
Posted from: 66.167.205.199
May 7th, 2007 21:11
wow we have some weird novii…
Posted from: 69.115.223.185
May 7th, 2007 21:23
greg hertz never got the chance to debate in a dress. now heartbroken, i shall return to base camp, a sad and lonely man.
idiocy aside, major congrats to everyone who cleared, everyone who even was competing this weekend (a feat in itself), with big shoutouts to graaaag, shadman, ali, and nathan
Posted from: 70.234.142.252
May 7th, 2007 21:28
daniel garber filmed several rounds this weekend for a documentary he’s making about debate. i’m not sure about all of the rounds he filmed, but i know that he filmed rd 3 between ali boyle affirming and myself negating, with bryan cory as judge, and the he filmed the octas rd between patrick diehl and mike spirtos, with a panel of petey gil, adwait parker, and chetan hertzig. i’m not sure that garber got the rfd in the round between ali and i, but i’m almost certain that he did for patrick and mike.
Posted from: 70.234.142.252
May 7th, 2007 21:29
cam’ron, who are you? thanks, by the way.
Posted from: 208.54.95.1
May 7th, 2007 21:31
After a long weekend of very excellent rounds (I ended up judging every elim round — by the way, in Sems, Gil and Massey were on bottom), I want to second Jon Cruz in saying I only wish I could have been more eloquent in my RFD in the final round. Soo….
I just wanted to congratulate both Patrick and David for being some of the smartest and most thoughtful debaters I have ever had the privilege to judge. Similarly, congratulations to both of their coaching squads — no one at the TOC could possibly have missed the effort that Dave, Corbin, Michelin, etc. and Aaron and Neil put into assisting their students throughout this weekend. The final round was excellent on several levels, and the matchup was a reflection of what happens when substance, intelligence, and dedication meet.
And, of oourse, the number of people I could congratulate even beyond these individuals are endless. Just to single out a few whom – in the middle of the elims craziness I did not get to recognize: Daniel Cory, I said this to someone at dinner tonight: “In my opinion, there was no other debater at this tournament whom I would have been more interested to see hit an innovative strategy like the VIC, than Daniel Cory – he is flat out brilliant.” Matt Aks, you are the kind of student and leader who keeps people coaching – the spirit you showed this weekend will take you far. The Hockadaisies, who indisputably demonstrate what it means to be a team. And Becca and Susan, because your round on day 1 could have easily been one of the best elim rounds at the TOC that was simply placed on the wrong day.
Finally, a congrats to my own student Xiaoqi. It is no easy task to step out on the national circuit as a Senior, and to have a winning record at the TOC is a real accomplishment.
Best Line of the Weekend:
Wesley Craven, on observing a menu:
“Buffalo Chicken Fingers, hmmm, two animals and a piece of anatomy . . . I’ll have that.”
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 7th, 2007 21:44
what is the VIC that anjan references?
Posted from: 129.116.10.9
May 7th, 2007 21:46
I am obviously biased, but I think Gavin Newton-Tanzer deserves a massive congratulations. For someone who’s only done debate for 2 years (or anyone really), having a winning record at the TOC, especially when 5 of the people you hit cleared, is incredible.
Also, congrats to Daniel, David, Nathan, Joan, Lindsay, and Taarini. You finished off a great year for Texas.
And finally, congrats to Patrick, for obvious reasons.
Posted from: 71.135.54.161
May 7th, 2007 22:28
clearly, cuz diehl won, the bay area cant get any other love with both the sharks and the warriors losing… damn you diehl! haha jk man
and yeah who is “lynbrook novii”… i dont think ( i hope) no one at lynbrook is that ignorant…
Posted from: 66.233.57.238
May 7th, 2007 22:35
big ups to wesley craven for making the rest of us look bad by squirrelling.
Posted from: 12.37.85.2
May 7th, 2007 22:50
by “the rest of us” do you mean you?
Posted from: 72.255.25.249
May 7th, 2007 22:51
Congrats to everyone who did well, especially Lynbrook for having the first seed, first speaker, and champion and a very good shot at a close-out. The win was especially impressive given that Dave spent the entire weekend under the agonizing mental pressure of not yet having seen Spiderman 3.
Also, I want to personally congratulate Nick on what ended up being a great tournament despite the ups and downs along the way. You always want to know how things would have turned out if you had won that last round, but you gave it your best shot and did some pretty impressive stuff along the way and have a ton to be proud of. Now just go win NFLs…
Posted from: 76.199.98.159
May 8th, 2007 02:21
btwn taking APs and sleping I found out about this, a HUGE congratulations to lynbrook on the title. and sweeeet. That’s another title for the bay (4th maybe?), as well as the third consecutive bay area v dallas area showdown :D
Also-Congratulations to everyone who made the trip to kentucky, whether or not y’all were debating on monday
Posted from: 69.131.97.194
May 8th, 2007 05:00
Of course, enormous congratulations to Patrick and David, two great friends who are also incredible debaters. I’m really glad I got to debate each of you this weekend and I’m especially glad that my last round of debate was a really incredible round with Patrick.
Also, I wanted to recognize Susan, Elyse, and Roytman, three awesome debaters that I know I at least wanted to see take home ponies this weekend.
But more than anything, I just wanted to say thanks to the class of 2007–anyone who has seen the members of our class knows that, by and large, we’re all really close to one another. I think that was exemplified when, this weekend, losses weren’t met with anger and disappointment but instead hugs and congratulatory remarks. The rapport among our class is something I’ve really enjoyed this year and I just wanted to thank everyone for that.
Posted from: 205.158.148.67
May 8th, 2007 05:23
Congrats to Ravi and Jake for going 5-2, great job!
And of course, congrats to Patrick, for winning :D
Posted from: 72.255.94.181
May 8th, 2007 06:02
Thank you for the kind words about the coverage.
Wes Craven and Mike Bietz coordinated this year’s video coverage; they can better answer a question about a timetable, as I am admittedly not sure when they will be posted. I know that Wes (our camera operator) went the extra mile and taped a good number of prelim rounds as well, which is something we haven’t done in the past.
I agree that these videos are great teaching tools and I look forward to having them available for my own debaters as well.
While I am not a member of the class of 2007, I do want to echo Miss Huberlie’s very true comments about the sense of comraderie that was quite evident throughout the tournament.
Posted from: 209.98.146.245
May 8th, 2007 06:41
Is the TOC results packet available online?
Posted from: 12.37.85.2
May 8th, 2007 06:51
I’d like to echo the congratulations to all the competitors who cleared, as well as those who didn’t; I had to judge two very close 4-2 rounds on Sunday, and I certainly felt that all four debaters deserved to be in elimination rounds.
I’d also like to recognize and thank Liz Mullins and Matthew Shields, two former students of mine, for their invaluable help before and during the tournament.
Finally, thanks to Greg Malis and Dr. Patterson for running another terrific TOC.
Posted from: 169.232.243.171
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Posted from: 169.232.243.171
May 8th, 2007 11:02
second comment: that final round panel gives me hope for legitimate final round decisions in the future.
Posted from: 129.116.60.132
May 8th, 2007 11:26
congrats to lynbrook on the solid finish, hockaday for clearing three people, Dcor on well-deserved semis finish, Byron on the speaker award in spite of the struggle, Spirtos on the clearing, and Corbin for being able to eat cheesy bread faster than his debaters can speak.
Also, props to Wade on the 4-3 finish as a junior. The South will rise again.
Posted from: 70.0.116.223
May 8th, 2007 11:57
Congrats to Patrick and what a great way for David McGinnis to go out – this Lynbrook era was pretty special.
Posted from: 169.229.32.138
May 8th, 2007 12:25
congratulations to patrick for a great finish.
with response to landon’s post (381), i think that it’s unfair to assume that diehl was just a mediocre policy debater who couldn’t hack it. as i’m sure you know, policy is a research-intensive activity that requires a good partner, a good policy coaching staff, and a sizeable research budget to do well–none of which patrick really had access to. even those schools who were not stereotypical “big programs” (st. augustine last year, woodlands this year, etc.) had two very skilled debaters and access to some solid coaching. one of the virtues of LD is its accessibility and ability of brilliant and hard-working debaters to pop out of the woodwork and become extremely successful (anyone old enough to remember menlo-atherton or howland in 2004?), and apparently patrick follows in a long tradition of debaters who took advantage of that virtue.
Posted from: 216.170.86.184
May 8th, 2007 12:29
congrats to diehl for champing this shit. it was well deserved.
Posted from: 68.252.255.63
May 8th, 2007 13:14
i want to congratulate everyone who cleared
but specifically:
diehl for doing what he said he would at camp
jkwan for being pretty phenomenal at debate
ali for always underestimating herself
nick for beating both myself and jkwan in very impressive rounds on his part
and mcgough for being the most consistent debate this year
i also want to thank my mean, overly pessimistic, borderline evil but phenomenal coaching staff of paul and mangus for teaching me the importance of being good, and the differance between being good and winning
Posted from: 69.249.88.35
May 8th, 2007 13:15
Congratulations to everyone who cleared, and to Diehl and David- it always sucks to lose rounds, but dropping to you two wasn’t that bad. Yesterday I had my last LD debate round ever, but good luck to everyone competing at NFLs.
It was difficult not having a coach at TOCs, and I wanted to thank Thomas Brugato and Ryan Lawrence for helping me prep before my quarters round, Dan Meyers for answering all of my spontaneous questions and making fun of the Northeast, Peter Petraro for teaching me so much about debate, everyone who provided unconditional encouragement since I was a sophomore- Jon Cruz comes to mind, and to the enthusiastic Millburn debaters on my team, especially Jake and Usha (going 4-3 as a junior is impressive). Debate has meant a lot to me over the last four years, so thanks for that.
Finally, last year there was a “case-posting” thread on Westman/LDdebate.org, and I’m not sure if enough people check theldboards.org yet to make this worthwhile posting there. I think its really valuable to read other people’s cases, even if just for fun. My cases certainly have enough flaws, but if there are any debaters following tocs or people at toc or people who won toc who would like to read my cases, email me at greghertz AT gmail.com.
Posted from: 69.107.67.193
May 8th, 2007 13:28
great job, diehl
you deserve it
Posted from: 69.118.141.9
May 8th, 2007 13:34
huge congrats to Matt Aks, who after only 3 years of debate made it to semifinals, losing to the eventual champion on a 3-2 decision. awesome job man.
Posted from: 169.232.243.171
May 8th, 2007 13:37
3rd comment – wade houston is my favorite to win in 08.
Posted from: 75.18.201.60
May 8th, 2007 13:38
i admittedly got a little tired of reading all the posts so i skipped the majority of them, but i see that many people are interested in videos. i know that wes craven filmed a bunch of rounds for vbd, and i went as well and filmed a bunch of rounds, in part for nsd. i taped the following rounds:
Rd. 1: Diehl vs. Bexley
Rd. 2: Kwan vs. Tyler
Rd. 3: Boyle vs. O’Connell
Rd. 4: Nebel vs. Tourville
Rd. 5: Kwan vs. Tourville
Rd. 6: Diehl vs. McGough
Rd. 7A: Kwan vs. Roytman
Rd. 7B: Brown vs. Spirtos
Runoff: Roytman vs. Tourville
Octafinals: Diehl vs. Spirtos
Quarterfinals: Cory vs. Tourville
Semifinals: Cory vs. McGough
Finals: McGough vs. Diehl (+Post-round discussion)
Posted from: 66.108.92.36
May 8th, 2007 14:13
Daniel – in the past, you mentioned that you were thinking about working on a debate documentary. Are you using these rounds for said project?
Posted from: 70.234.142.252
May 8th, 2007 15:12
will we be seeing these any time soon, dg?
Posted from: 24.151.113.0
May 8th, 2007 15:12
I echo John Lewis’s words with pride. Gavin Newton-Tanzer definitely deserves a bunch of credit for his performance at the TOC. It truly takes talent for someone to pick up debate in the middle of junior year and excell at it as Gavin did. From the amount of work he did to actually start a debate team here at Newtown High to his overall character as an individual, Gavin has proven to be a brilliant person. He has not only been institutional to my growth as a debater but also to my growth as a person. Thanks a lot Gavin.
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 8th, 2007 15:13
Daniel – I would love you forever if you posted those on google video!!!
Posted from: 70.129.158.153
May 8th, 2007 15:39
the final decision would’ve been a clear 8-1 for patrick but we know how beena always votes…
Posted from: 75.18.201.60
May 8th, 2007 15:53
jon:
i might be using them, but i think the majority of the documentary will trace the 07-08 season from start to finish.
others:
i do not know when i will get the videos up. it probably will not be in the next week because of AP testing, but i hope to do it ASAP after that.
any requests as to which i should edit/post first?
Posted from: 74.70.149.223
May 8th, 2007 16:07
Dgarber, if you can post one of these videos up first:
Rd. 5: Kwan vs. Tourville
or
Rd. 7A: Kwan vs. Roytman
or
Runoff: Roytman vs. Tourville
Posted from: 69.120.236.168
May 8th, 2007 16:08
Diehl vs. McGough and Diehl vs. McGough
Posted from: 67.66.198.155
May 8th, 2007 16:45
Dcor v. Mcgough
Posted from: 71.34.187.106
May 8th, 2007 17:15
Diehl vs. McGough + RFD/Duscussion
Posted from: 71.218.235.104
May 8th, 2007 17:21
I also want to add my congratulations directed toward Patrick and David. What an impressive culmination to your careers! I also want to congratulate one of my mentors, Aaron Timmons, and Neil Conrad on getting back to the TOC final.
Many other praises have been heaped here and there. However, I do want to say WORD UP to Jon Kwan, Michael Roytman, and Mike Spirtos. You three have had awesome senior campaigns, filled with significant improvement. More than anything else, I get the feeling that y’all have FUN, which is so imperative to just enjoying this activity.
Finally, I’m so happy for Dave McGinnis. I hope that you’ll enjoy this victory with your family!
Posted from: 71.60.200.227
May 8th, 2007 17:38
Any idea where the videos are going to be posted?
Thanks for video taping!
Posted from: 152.163.100.206
May 8th, 2007 17:50
Good job Matt Akks. It’s been a pleasure hanging out with you guys this year. Your performance wasn’t a surprise for those of us who have seen you grow since your sophmore year.
Good job Daniel. It’s good to see someone be successful running stuff that’s interesting and not easy to understand (even though a lot of people hated you for it). It’s been a pleasure hanging out with the Cory’s these past several years.
Posted from: 69.118.227.104
May 8th, 2007 19:02
Matt Aks—seriously, what a great way to end an amazing run. Your semis round was easily one of the best rounds i’ve seen this year. Awesome, awesome job– its been swt being on a team with you.
Posted from: 71.141.240.134
May 8th, 2007 19:39
so what was the unique stuff daniel cory was running?
Posted from: 69.118.237.25
May 8th, 2007 20:47
Re: Mediocre Policy Debater
While I’ll leave the question of Diehl’s policy success unanswered, I don’t think anyone can doubt his LD abilities after this weekend. However, I just thought it was worth noting that both finalists were former policy debaters, and even the lexington team that won PFD was composed of a former LDer and a former Policy/LDer (yeah Garth).
Posted from: 128.164.100.51
May 8th, 2007 21:55
To Alex and Ardevan: Cool, I agree. I just found it interesting more than anything. Patrick is definitely great and I meant no disrespect. Congratulations to everyone who participated and major props to everyone who broke/won the tournament!
Posted from: 69.91.40.233
May 8th, 2007 23:36
also congrats also for those people for qualling, which isn’t an easy task.
I really look forward to those videos.
Posted from: 168.7.253.228
May 9th, 2007 08:33
congrats to lynbrook and greenhill and everyone else
Posted from: 205.188.116.206
May 9th, 2007 10:44
first off, let me echo allison and say that i have so much respect and fondness for all the seniors of ‘07. it’s been a fun year.
congrats to patrick, david, and their coaches on much-deserved endings to excellent seasons.
special thank yous to my incredible teammates, all of whom were so supportive throughout the entire season, and toc was no exception. you’re all awesome. i’d also like to thank the surrogate scarsdalians- josh anderson, chris castillo and liz viera- for being so dedicated to our team’s performance this past weekend.
finally, for people who are wondering about videos, i was taped four times: rd 2 aff vs. spirtos, rd 6 neg vs. ravi, quarters aff vs. abell, semis aff vs. diehl.
Posted from: 205.173.47.254
May 9th, 2007 11:09
Thanks to everyone who has congratulated me or the team. I want to thank Corbin Cass, who is both frighteningly intelligent and a very thoughtful coach. Lynbrook has been endlessly lucky to have his help this year. (Making flights, however, is not his strongest suit. :)
Huge thanks to Michelin Massey, surrogate coach and Official Good Luck Charm. Michelin has taught me a lot about debate over the years and to have a chance to travel and work with him has been a real treat.
Thanks to Eric Palmer and the MVLA/Pine Crest crew who helped out in the stretch. EPalm is clearly one of the great debate minds of recent years.
Thanks to Aaron Timmons, David McGough and everyone from Greenhill. Consistently the ‘Hill sets the standard for both competitive excellence and integrity in LD debate.
This year was my 8th TOC, with some good and some less-good performances over the years. But every year it is the most challenging and fun event of the season. Huge thanks to Dr. Patterson and all the TOC staff and committee members who make this event the stellar season-topper that it is.
Finally, it can’t happen often that a coach has the opportunity to work with two kids like Diehl and JKwan in one year. It is the most fun I’ve ever had (at least in debate). Those kids are brilliant, hard-working, and great leaders. (I imagine this is how Pam and Cherian felt during the Chris/Tim years, or how Mike felt during the Nick/Jon/Jed years.) Good job, guys. Thanks for an unbelievable season.
Posted from: 75.37.17.145
May 9th, 2007 17:23
was the final round close?
Posted from: 24.22.208.198
May 9th, 2007 18:26
not even
Posted from: 64.12.117.11
May 9th, 2007 18:41
I would like to send a shout out to Dave and Patrick, two of the strongest and nicest debaters that I had the oppurtunity to compete with this year. Both of you deserved to do as well as you did.
I would like to thank Beena, Chetan, Matt Shields, and my life coach/former team mate Liz Mullins for all their help. I really would not have been able to get anywhere without your help so thanks a lot!
TOC was a really gratifying experience and I’m looking forward to next year! Great job to all.
Posted from: 68.196.112.19
May 9th, 2007 18:53
no greg, i would like to thank you.
and plz, everyone just stfu about the videos.
Posted from: 75.2.128.164
May 10th, 2007 06:20
I would like to say thank you to everyone who has posted nice things on these boards. I really do appreciate your sincerity. I agree with Ali and Matt that what makes our year great is that we all got along so well and were able to coexist as competitors and friends. TOC was my hardest tournament yet, and with the change of one or two judges’ minds I would have been eliminated early. The competition was fantastic and I had some very close rounds. I’d also like to thank Dave, Corbin, and Michelin who spent their entire weekend judging, scouting, prepping, and generally encouraging Jon and I. Without their help I can easily say we would not have done as well as we did.
Posted from: 24.6.159.5
May 10th, 2007 08:23
I’d like to thank Diehl and Jkwan, especially for serving as role models for younger Bay Area debaters. Both of you have had a positive impact on my excelling as a debater and I am extremely grateful to have known both of you. Best of luck in college and in the future.
Sincerely,
Daniel Khalessi
Posted from: 66.240.48.106
May 10th, 2007 12:41
does anyone have a copy of the results packet that they could post somewhere? i’d be greatly obliged. thanks.
Posted from: 134.173.89.181
May 10th, 2007 14:30
Major congrats are in order to Patrick Diehl. I judged Patrick’s first bid round (at his first varsity tournament in LD!) vs. Grant Brown, and it was evident then that he had incredible talent and promise. As is more than apparent, he lived up to the hype in every possible way. He truly is the Real Diehl.
Congrats also to lab veterans John Robert, Spirit, Trillville and Hideki for clearing, to Roytman for having the heart of a lion, to Allison Huberlie, and to Matt Aks (you have now supplanted Mike Mencher as my favorite Scarsdale debater of all time).
Finally, I’d like to congratulate Dave McGinnis and Corbin Cass on a great tournament and a fantastic year. Corbin is a brilliant guy, and Dave is, in my view, the best new guard lifer in the business. Enjoy your first ring!
Posted from: 69.231.17.70
May 10th, 2007 16:28
Nice pun, epalm.
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 10th, 2007 18:25
What happened to the Finals video posted earlier this morning?
Posted from: 71.160.56.34
May 10th, 2007 18:34
Some people had issues viewing it, so i\’ve been working on re-encoding.
Posted from: 24.176.242.93
May 10th, 2007 18:35
That works, thanks Mike.
Posted from: 74.36.138.220
May 10th, 2007 18:42
Where is the video posted, or is it still being re-encoded? Rob Parker’s last post made me wonder if it was actually up or not.=)
Posted from: 71.160.56.34
May 10th, 2007 18:54
It will be on vbd when it is done.
Posted from: 67.189.52.108
May 10th, 2007 22:42
[from an undisclosed location deep underground]
Wow. What a tournament. From the train ride and blathering travel updates (I haven’t reread them, I’m going to repress that I posted them) to sitting at the waffle house with Bietz and my boy schiffy, to perpetrating the biggest squirreling of my career as a critic, this was one hell of a tournament.
There will be plenty of time for discussion, defensiveness and explanation about my finals decision later (if you were me, would you watch the video?!), but now is the time for props:
Congratulations Patrick. You have made me reflect on my role as a critic more than any other debater the last few years; from the Stanford round against Leiter to the last round of your career, I’ve put some intense thought into LD that wouldn’t have happened without you pushing me to think and rethink what it means to judge this activity. Now that I think about it, you suck. My life would be a lot easier without you challenging me to imagine that LD could be so much better then it is. In all seriousness, you’ve given me faith that our activity can embrace new conventions and styles without settling for mediocrity. You are a credit to this activity and I couldn’t think of a more deserving debater to receive this honor (both of them, damn dude, champ and top speaker-that is outstanding). So congrats, and I can’t wait to be on a panel with you (dude, if I squirrel you will give me MAD shit).
Congrats to David, who represented Greenhill with excellence and prestige. It was pretty crazy remembering when we met at TOC last year, in very different circumstances. It has been an honor to judge you and frankly, your rounds have been some of the most sophisticated but clean and substantive debates I’ve ever judged. You earned the honor of debating in the final round of the TOC and it was awesome to see such a classy and talented debater do so well at this tournament. You have so much to offer the debate community, I can only hope that debaters are lucky enough to learn from you how to debate the way you did; clear, substantive and strategic. We’ll make a deal; if you can teach debaters to do that, I’ll pick them up (probably-no promises, I’m now notoriously unpredictable because of you:) Congrats man.
Matt Aks, I already gave you the sentimental stuff when I dropped you in semi’s (I didn’t say much, but hopefully you saw how tough it was on me). All the shit I told the fools above applies to you. One extra note for any TOC hopeful who is reading this: Matt emailed me before the tournament, asking about a round I’d judged him in that he’d been unable to discuss because he’d had to catch a plane. Then he asked me a couple questions about my paradigm-I’ve never had a debater do that before a tournament; but Matt was taking this seriously and it was that attitude and work ethic that took him to the semifinals of the nation’s most competitive and prestigious tournament. I hope we get the chance to work together in the future, Matt, because you are one of those debaters who make me proud to participate in this activity. Congrats on getting the first thirty I gave out at a circuit tournament in, well, I don’t even know…and GET OUT OF MY HEAD, MAN.
God all the sentiment! I’m a cheeser, deal with it.
There are so many other debaters and coaches who made me proud or happy or amused this weekend, the three above are just the tip of the iceberg, but props to all those not mentioned, judges who were forced to keep some of the best debaters in the country from breaking, amazing debaters and coaches who worked their asses off, labbies who kicked ass, friends who made me laugh, it exemplified the one part of my travel log that I will remember, my description of the TOC:
“Oh the blood! The stench, the ulcers, the ink, the headaches, the mutilated egos, the chain-smoking coaches, the judge with her hands holding the sides of her head as she decides, the look all us judges get when we finally make the decision; an imperceptible surrender, the bonds and friendship and sympathy and celebration and oh yeah, the debate.”
-when I wrote that I didn’t realize I’d get one of the mutilated egos :)
It was the war to end all wars and it happens every year. Thanks to everyone who made it possible for me to come: Victor and Bietz for bringing me out at the last minute, Jon for cajoling me into writing the travel logs, Jeremy for hanging with me and just being there, Liz for being such a great friend, Josh and Babb for supporting me, freaking everybody. ..Except whoever apparently won the money in the pool on who would squirrel in the final round. I want a cut of that you unbeliever, if you didn’t have faith in me the least you could do is share the winnings with a poor starving squirrel…just send it to my underground bunker’s undisclosed address.
Oh, and as far as the videos go, just sit tight. Anyone begging for the videos can shut up and be patient; Victory Briefs didn’t have to pay money and put up with me all weekend just to offer free videos to the community…be grateful they made the investment (and sacrifice) and just pray that I remembered to take the lens cap off.
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May 11th, 2007 11:09
haha i own you all
Posted from: 204.8.196.66
May 11th, 2007 11:11
I would just like to point out that the previous person who said “i own you all” IS NOT ME. I think this is evident, seeing as how the idiot cannot spell my first name
Posted from: 204.8.196.66
May 11th, 2007 11:11
it was me actually. haha losers
Posted from: 204.8.196.66
May 11th, 2007 11:12
They have the same IP because these posts are from school computers. Anyway, people that know me know that i am not nearly as much of an idiot as imposter Varun Jayaraman is
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The bet in finals was over whether Beena would squirrel or not.
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– I was NOT a participant, I am merely reporting what I was told. :)
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