Comments on: Southern Lehigh Wins the Barkley Forum in Public Forum

By: Graeme

Graeme — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:26:35 +0000

Okay so here are the results of PFD for Emory’s Barkley Forum…i decided to follow up…..:

TOP 32 TEAMS after the 8 prelim rounds:
1. Trinity Prep FS (Friedman & Sinanan-Singh)
2. Myers Park NQ (Norton & Quach)
3. Valley JI (Johnson & Iragavarapu)
4. Stoneman Douglas NG (Nadle & Goldstein)
5. Jupiter KG (Kaiser-Cross & Gerardi)
6. Laurel MR (Moore & Rahkit)
7. Southern Lehigh DU (DeCray & Urban)
8. Holy Ghost Prep WM (Walsh & Mahoney)
9. Regis WH (Wyllie & Howe)
10. Seminole Ridge Community School EM (Edwards & MacInnes)
11. Ransom Everglades RB (Routt & Blumberg)
12. Stoneman Douglas FG (Fistel & Gold)
13. Nova Sr. NB (Nardello & Barrierre)
14. Pope WJ (Waye & Jampol)
15. Pittsburgh Central Catholic CC (Casetti & Cuttruzella)
16. Southside HS-Ctr for Intl Studies MT (Majumdar & Tran)
17. North Mecklenburg DM (Dawson & Mazanec)
18. Manchester Essex MK (Marsh & Kwasie)
19. Brentwood SK (Stern & Kaczmarek)
20. East Chapel Hill BK (Boehm & Kim)
21. East Chapel Hill TR (Toth & Rogoff)
22. Mauldin TT (Thompson & Traxler)
23. Dreyfoos School of the Arts NF (Natale & Friedland)
24. Niceville PW (Penner & Williams)
25. Dreyfoos School of the Arts LB (Lee & Bahls-Marile)
26. Princeton BE (Bonnell & Echt)
27. Holy Ghost Prep HH (Hunter & Hober)
28. James Logan CA (Curson & Asir)
29. Academic Magnet CM (Crews & Mataosky)
30. Vestavia Hills High MM (Mawn & McAleer)
31. Princeton WR (Wadekar & Riddle)
32. St. Pius X Catholic WR (Whelchel & Robbins)

Double Octos in somewhat of a bracketed form… (*** denotes a debate where I’m not completely sure of the winner)
32. St. Pius X Catholic WR over 1. Trinity Prep FS***
17. North Mecklenburg DM over 16. Southside HS-Ctr for Intl Studies MT
8. Holy Ghost Prep WM over 25. Dreyfoos School of the Arts LB
9. Regis WH over 24. Niceville PW
4. Stoneman Douglas NG over 29. Academic Magnet CM
20. East Chapel Hill BK over 13. Nova Sr. NB
5. Jupiter KG over 28. James Logan CA
21. East Chapel Hill TR over 12. Stoneman Douglas FG
2. Myers Park NQ over 31. Princeton WR
18. Manchester Essex MK over 15. Pittsburgh Central Catholic CC
7. Southern Lehigh DU over 26. Princeton BE
10. Seminole Ridge Community EM over 23. Dreyfoos School of Arts NF ***
3. Valley JI over 30. Vestavia Hills High MM
19. Brentwood SK over 14. Pope WJ
27. Holy Ghost Prep HH over 6. Laurel MR
22. Mauldin TT over 11. Ransom Everglades RB

Octos (*** denotes a competitor I’m not sure competed)
17. North Mecklenburg DM over 32. St. Pius X Catholic WR ***
9. Regis WH over 8. Holy Ghost Prep WM
20. East Chapel Hill BK over 4. Stoneman Douglas NG
5. Jupiter KG over 21. East Chapel Hill TR
18. Manchester Essex MK over 2. Myers Park NQ
7. Southern Lehigh DU over 10. Seminole Ridge Community School EM***
19. Brentwood SK over 3. Valley JI
22. Mauldin TT over 27. Holy Ghost Prep HH

Quarters
9. Regis WH over 17. North Mecklenburg DM
5. Jupiter KG over 20. East Chapel Hill BK
7. Southern Lehigh DU over 18. Manchester Essex MK
19. Brentwood SK over 22. Mauldin TT

Semis
9. Regis WH over 5. Jupiter KG
7. Southern Lehigh DU over 19. Brentwood SK

Finals
7. Southern Lehigh DU over 9. Regis WH
Southern Lehigh Wins!

By: bobby

bobby — Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:51:42 +0000

Yeah, that’s pretty funny that the results never arrived…

By: Graeme

Graeme — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:48:43 +0000

the results never came. haha

By: Hayley

Hayley — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:09:04 +0000

Good job Rachel and Donnie! Did amazing in finals, like always. Also to Sarah and Kellie too, watched you guys in octos and you were amazing.

By: Eddie seminole ridge

Eddie seminole ridge — Fri, 02 Feb 2007 04:52:27 +0000

HEY!! Congrats to Rachel and Donnie, you two are amazing, also conradulations to all my gangsta ass schools Jupiter (kels sars) Trinity (Jon Jcant even spell it if I tried) and there were far too many stoneman teams to name .lol. hope to see you all very soon. NFL Quals perhaps? Good job to all those that broke.

By: moneyman

moneyman — Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:40:02 +0000

its too bad that the north broward team that won yale are no longer together…they could have done well at emory with this topic, especially because i saw them at blue key, as well as a local down here…they were quite amazing, i must say

congrats to everyone

By: Nikolas

Nikolas — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:26:01 +0000

Sweet :)

By: nc

nc — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:56:22 +0000

cruzinatorrrr

donde esta the results packet.

By: Jon trinity prep

Jon trinity prep — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:08:31 +0000

congrats to Rachel and Donnie, Kels and Sara, the stones, and all for breaking at emory

By: jon stoneman douglas

jon stoneman douglas — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:28:32 +0000

yo rachel and d$… congrats buds. 3-2 is rediculous for that round though. i dont see how it wasn’t unanimous. anyway, it was nice knowing you guys since i’ll probably never see you “cut[ies]” again- jon

By: Rosenblum

Rosenblum — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:33:27 +0000

First I would like to throw some congrats to Rachel and Donnie, I love you both very much and so proud that you won. January is certainly your month. You deserve this aooooo much kids.

Also congrats to Kelliphant and SKC from Jupiter. Way to rep SoFla.

By: brandon sherman

brandon sherman — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:12:44 +0000

does anyone know if southern lehigh is located in the lehigh valley?

By: Jason

Jason — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:07:29 +0000

Both Southern Lehigh and Regis were incredibly good. PFD id about style AND evidence. I felt both teams balanced these well.

Emory treats PFD like crap. There is no doubt about it. The judges were PFD judges (lay judging is ENCOURAGED in PFD), so I can’t complain about that. But you just get the feeling that nobody really cares how PFD goes.

Overall, however, I would say the competition was EXCELLENT this year!!

By: Shohn

Shohn — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 04:01:37 +0000

Graeme (I totally recognize your name from the PF group on facebook…), I completely disagree. I am of the opinion that eloquence and rhetoric is a good part of Public Forum.
What I hate is that a lot of people forget why PF was originally intended for: Lay Judges. I’ve seen complaints everywhere about “Oh, the judge didn’t flow our points, so we lost,” or “We had evidence, so we should have won.” It’s complaints like these that undermine the intent of the event.

All that aside, much congrats to Rachel and Donny for winning, Rob and Dennis for second, all four for what I’m sure was another intense Emory Final PF Round, Sarah and Kellie for semis, and my CDE homies Jen and David for clearing to wherever they cleared to. Much congrats to you as well, Graeme, for clearing.

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By: Graeme

Graeme — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:03:53 +0000

YAY!!!!! I didn’t see Southern Lehigh compete, but I did see Regis compete in 2 outrounds after my partner and I were eliminated by Jen and David of Stoneman in double-octas. Regis relied on eloquence and rhetoric without having any hard evidence. Thank God Southern Lehigh won. Had Regis won, I would have literally no faith in public forum as academic debate with evidence and analysis. Still, a 3-2 decision is close…

Congrats to everyone who cleared, but my major critique of Barkley Forum was the reliance on hired, lay judges. I felt that in the outrounds I say oftentimes lay judges, whose first tournament was the Barkley Forum, would be the deciding factor. For examples, Jupiter KG killed Regis in the semis, but I think lay judges decided in favor of eloquence rather than substance.

Still a really fun tournament. I met awesome people (and debated some awesome people) and had a great time. Can’t wait until next year.

By: Shohn

Shohn — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:01:48 +0000

Ha, that’s kinda funny (ironic).
Cause last year, the final round Regis HW over Southern LeHigh DU…