The Road to the NCFL
NEW YORK, NY – The NCFL generally qualifies students to Grands through smaller “grands”: qualifying tournaments sponsored by the local league organized by diocese or archidiocese. (Some dioceses also have a multiple-tournament procedure, or award qualifying spots through other means.) Since it seems a tad more difficult to gather news leading up to the NCFL than it does to gather similar news leading up to Nationals, I’ve decided to two questions here on VBD to make use of our comments feature. When is your qualifying tournament? Who is your school sending? (A third question: who has your school qualified?)
Results will be posted on Qualifier Watch. Current results are available here.
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ARCHDIOCESE OF BOSTON
Congratulations to Lexington High School’s Sonia Sujanani, Chrissy Kugel, and Micki Chernick, as well as Needham High School’s Mike Lintz and Sacred Heart High School’s Shadman Zaman and Augusta Moore for qualifying to the NCFL from the Boston Archdiocese!
Sonia, Chrissy, and Micki are coached by Lynne Coyne and Matt Scarola. Mike is coached by P.J. Wexler. Shadman and Augusta are coached by Beena Koshy and Chetan Hertzig.
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DIOCESE OF ALBANY
Congratulations to the Albany High School’s Brad Cramer and Shea Strausman for qualifying to the NCFL from the Albany Diocese.
Brad and Shea are coached by Jeffrey Weltz and Cheryl Bentley.
The first alternate is (the appropriately named) Alanna Wellspeak.
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DIOCESE OF BROOKLYN-QUEENS
Congratulations to the Berkeley Carroll School’s Peter Damrosch and Poly Prep Country Day School’s Oliver O’Connell for qualifying to the NCFL from the Brooklyn-Queen Diocese. (Additional qualifiers to be determined in the coming weeks.)
Peter is coached by Jim Shapiro. Oliver is coached by Jackie Kornblum.
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DIOCESE OF LAFAYETTE
Congratulations to A.M. Barbe High School’s Luke Miles, Breaux Bridge High School’s Justin Cantu, Teurlings Catholic High’s Kathryn Barry and Toni Menard, Lafayette High School’s Megan Hebert, and the Louisiana School for Math, Science, and the Arts’s Sarath Ganji for qualifying to the NCFL from the Lafayette Diocese.
Luke is coached by Angie Bonvillain. Justin is coached by Amy Broussard. Kathryn and Toni are coached by Josette Surratt. Megan is coached by Shane Cyprien Guilbeau. Sarath is coached by Mary E. Self.
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Posted from: 68.175.99.147
March 11th, 2006 17:48
The Archdiocese of New York has its qualifier this weekend. Bronx Science is sending Sarah Hom, Hannah Rothman, and Ting Ting Tam. Joel Rothman, Theresa Hom, and I will be judging.
I believe the qualifier for Rockville Centre (Long Island) was this weekend. Who competed? Who qualified?
Posted from: 67.8.227.203
March 11th, 2006 18:02
Orlando (Central Florida diocese? – not sure) just had it’s qualifier this weekend:
The following qualified to NCFLs:
Trinity: Miles Brundage, Ravi Sankar
Lake Highland: Steven Campisi, Sophie Grace
Celebration: Kelsey Averill
Posted from: 24.47.222.112
March 11th, 2006 18:02
Qualifiers from the Rockville Center Diocese:
Matt Sharp, Tom DeFranco, Matt Smith, Joe Gambino
(chaminade high school)
Adhar Srivastava
(syosset high school)
Posted from: 24.195.0.108
March 11th, 2006 18:39
the only reason brad cramer and strausman got in is cuz nisky didnt go to the ncfl qualifiers, we usually beat all three of them all the time
Posted from: 24.195.1.253
March 11th, 2006 20:34
Disregard the last comment.
Congrats to Brad and Shea, gonna be sitting on the NCFL title? :)
Posted from: 24.194.225.75
March 11th, 2006 22:47
Word. Sohail, it sounds like some of your team is rather bitter about Scotts fine?
Posted from: 24.194.225.75
March 11th, 2006 22:52
P.S. Nisky Kid, Who are you? Why don’t you actually come out of your annonymity so we can see who you are?
Is it Alex Williams? With your amazing 12-13 circuit record? Or perhaps Neil, with your equally impressive 14-12. I don’t think Boyang(18-6) would stoop to that level, and I don’t think it’s Sohail or Aditya (6-18,1-5 respectively.) So forgive me if I don’t tremble before the amazing legitness of Nisky. (Except Boyang Zhou, who I have immense respect for.
Dude. Stop being bitter and win a round for once.
-Shea
Posted from: 69.236.156.52
March 11th, 2006 23:59
Also, a Diocese in Norcal (I don\’t know the precise name/geographic area…but it was held in Sacramento, CA) held qualifiers a few weeks ago. Sid Satish and Alisha Tolani from Harker qualified. Congrats to them!
Posted from: 68.215.59.119
March 12th, 2006 06:11
From Palm Beach
1. Spanish River- Alex Weintraub
2. Spanish River- Heather Nagle
3. Jupiter- Matt Rosenblum
4. Martin County- Tulsi Patel
5. Central- Chris Herron
and spanish river is also sending austin siegel who won the qualifying tourney for the 2nd year in a row.
Posted from: 69.112.174.134
March 12th, 2006 07:36
Berkeley Carroll will be sending:
myself
Peter Damrosch
Emily Cunningham
Aarian Marshall
From Poly Prep there will be:
Oliver O’Connel
Janissa (don’t know her last name)
On a side note, how have other qualifier touraments been? The grand qualifier for us that was held yesterday had a total of five varsity debaters from two schools. This meant it was held as round robin, where each debater debated everyone else, including their own teammates.
Posted from: 69.112.174.134
March 12th, 2006 09:54
Peter bidded at a different quailifying tournament a few weekends ago that I wasn’t at, so unfortunately we didn’t get to debate yesterday.
Posted from: 69.112.174.134
March 12th, 2006 11:22
*bid
Posted from: 24.195.1.253
March 12th, 2006 11:26
Agreed with Shea till he started mentioning records. Even though i think “nisky kid” is an idiot, to keep things fair, Mr. Strausman has the amazing record of 3-3, ranking at somewhere south of 1000. There is a 400 rank gap between Strausman and Alex Williams and an even greater one between the other debater (neal). (this assuming that rankings matter, which i guess they do to Mr. Strausman since he brought it up)
My point, stop playing debates equivalent of “mine’s is bigger than yours”
Posted from: 24.195.7.88
March 12th, 2006 12:13
Nisky kid is none of the niskayuna varsity debaters…….Shea even novices have started to appreciate your asinine demeanor and equally crappy debate skills. With that said good luck at Ncfls , after allyou had the amazing road of debating TWO of your team mates at the EVER so difficult qualifier where u had that the glorifying record of 2-1( beating alana well speak , whom has been beaten by Niskayuna first years) And remind me Shea , oh thats right you have been beaten by niskayuna first years also. With that being said , its ridiclious for you to post the circuit records of niskayuna varsity debaters especially since you have a year more expereience on the national circuit than they do , not to mention that both alex and neal went from novice to varsity and can still skin your hide faster than you can blink.
peace out
Posted from: 24.195.0.174
March 12th, 2006 12:30
burn
Posted from: 72.226.24.61
March 12th, 2006 12:40
you guys really need to chill, and by that i mean albany needs to. maybe if you had some decent debaters and a less asinine attutude, shea, you would garner somme respect. you can ask any legit debater on the national circuit about niskayuna including, but not limited to, bz and they will support them. the point is that albany=terrible but they think theyre good and niskauyna=decent and respected, and thus albany should stop trying to pick fights with nisky. they are the only school that has done so, which is saying something. by they way (this goes out to brad), sliming (going new in the 2 in case you don’t like jargon) is a low thing to do, though it is in fact the only element of your debate skillz that can win you rounds.
peace out
Posted from: 69.167.124.106
March 12th, 2006 13:27
boyang! and alex williams are good.
Posted from: 65.2.140.110
March 12th, 2006 13:41
uh yeah from south florida (not sure our district name) we’ve got
zach aberman – stoneman douglas
eric alexander – krop
brian wood – taravella
matt rogaroff- western
rishad allie – coral springs
louis paine- stoneman douglas
im the first alternate
roxette miranda from miami is the second.
congrats to those who qualled, especially to zach, brian, erica, and alex mofo weintraub.
Posted from: 70.109.122.245
March 12th, 2006 14:31
Hey, it’s brad cramer. Nisky anonymous, i really don’t appreciate your comment. I don’t think this site is a place for argument. I qualified for catholics, i am passing on my bid if you care to know. If anonymous would like to challenge me to a debate at some point in the future i would glady accept. Please keep the slander to a minimum. In response to your statement, neil is the only nisky debater to defeat me. I have respect for him along with other nisky kids i have faced, alex williams, abbie alger, etc. By the way, my record on the last resolution was 15-1. This anonymous “debater” is probably a novice, considering that most other members of the team (sohail, boyang, neil, aditya) are too mature to stoop to this low a level. See you guys later.
P.S. please stop arguing, debate isn’t everything. Throwing words around is pointless.
Posted from: 24.195.7.88
March 12th, 2006 14:48
i agree with methuslah. This forum shouldnt be about arguing/slandering Im glad brad is much more mature than Shea.
Posted from: 68.215.59.119
March 12th, 2006 14:56
id just like to say that ali boyle is the BEST FIRST ALTERNATE in the nation… word up B
erica alexander= yay!
Posted from: 24.90.9.11
March 12th, 2006 14:59
nick, you’d know the outcome of that round if it ever happened though right?
and huge congratulations to isaac bloch, aarian marshall, and emily cunningham for qualing to cats nats and making bc sophmores 4/4 to chicago
Posted from: 64.12.116.197
March 12th, 2006 17:17
Good luck to Sarah, Hannah, and Ting Ting at the New York qualifier!
Congratulations to the Berkeley Carroll sophmores!
Posted from: 69.165.219.190
March 12th, 2006 17:43
is eric perelman going from spanish river or did he not qualify?
Posted from: 71.70.233.13
March 12th, 2006 18:26
No Justin???
That being said congrats to Erica, Brian, Zach and Tulsi
Posted from: 24.194.225.75
March 12th, 2006 18:49
I’ll list the members of the Nisky team that I have respect for:
Boyang Zhou because he’s a phenominal debater.
Sohail Sayeed, because he’s generally a nice guy.
Aditya, because he’s been a class act every time I talked to him.
The rest of you are cocky, arrogant assholes, and need to step off. You make some sort of comment about first year debaters beating me, but if you’ll remember correctly, both the first year debater in question, and the other person in the room said I won that round. As for your team ‘beating me’ all the time, there is not a single one of you with a winning record against me locally. That’s right, even Boyang is 2-5 against me. So cut the crap, and the call outs, because they’re stupid. Locals don’t matter, and I know I’m not a great debater compared to many nationally, but I do know that I could take any of your varsity debaters excluding boyang who would be difficult appart without breaking a sweat.
What I take exception to is when your team comes on this site and starts bitching about how they beat us all the time and acting like cocky assholes, just because you’ve got sour grapes.
By the way, that was a clever strategy posting three times and agreeing with yourself, too bad it can be seen through by a four your old, because your rhetoric is exactly the same each post. I’ve got an idea ‘nisky kid’ and ’stop the arguing’ why don’t you IM me, My screen name is thesheamuffin, and we can work this out privately.
Feel free to post after this, get in the last word, I won’t respond, because I’m done with this stupid bullshit.
Posted from: 24.195.14.250
March 12th, 2006 21:21
Shea, and all the other Albany debaters that happen to be wandering this thread, on behalf of my team, I’d like to apologize.
Niskayuna debaters, stop it, this is immature and completely inappropriate for this or any other public forum.
Sorry for diverting attention away from the CFL qualifiers, congrats to everyone who did well.
Posted from: 68.163.208.55
March 12th, 2006 22:24
Congrats to Mr. Damrosch and thanks for lending me your caterpillar Joe for my science fiar project.
Posted from: 24.194.225.75
March 12th, 2006 22:32
Thank you Boyang. Apology accepted. From talking to Sohail and Neil, it seems that it was some random novice who said that stuff. I’m sorry I let it get to me like that, and calling out your team by records was totally uncalled for on my part.
Posted from: 24.195.7.88
March 12th, 2006 22:35
Shea , ” nisky kid” was neither alex Williams nor I , it seems you have more enemies than you had thought, but also all of the three ” stop arguing” posts were made by different indviduals.
i second boyangs apology on behalf of the team especially to brad and alanna whom have done nothing to merit bashing on a public forum . I caution our debaters not to not post diatribe on a public forum under labels identified with niskayuna such as ” nisky kid” becuase it makes the whole team look bad. If you wish to take it with Shea privately, his sn is Thesheamuffin.
That being said , congratulations to all debaters who did well at the qualifiers and good luck at the tournament.
Posted from: 136.242.122.127
March 12th, 2006 22:49
Congratulations to Alex W. & Heather N! Also to the Bronx Science kids, and the Berkeley Carroll kids. And Tulsi Patel and Erica Alexander. Florida is a fine state. New York too.
Posted from: 24.194.225.75
March 12th, 2006 23:15
“Shea , ” nisky kid” was neither alex Williams nor I , it seems you have more enemies than you had thought, but also all of the three ” stop arguing” posts were made by different indviduals.”
I think it’s already been well established that it was none of you guys who did this, although I have not talked to Alex, and I don’t think I have any enemies outside of your team, and there is no doubt that all the ’stop arguing posts’ were made by your team, but I have already apologized for singling you guys out like that. It was wrong of me. Lets move forward and forgive each other. You and I just had a good IM conversation, and sohail and I are happily talking about foucalt, so lets all just drop this now.
Posted from: 71.124.232.224
March 13th, 2006 12:24
Congrats Shadman and Augusta! You guys are growing all up!!
(Not that you weren’t already older than me but w/e) CONGRATS!!!
Posted from: 24.149.62.208
March 13th, 2006 12:50
word.
Niskykid should be ashamed of themselves, whoever it was. Albany and Nisky used to be chill, then they put up some crazy post that sparked tension between both teams. Either way, it doesn’t matter who is “good” or who is “better.” What happens is you go into round, you debate, and one person wins. Previous records don’t matter, nor does somebody’s “skill level.” In the end, records and skillz would not have come up had niskykid not made a dumb post to begin with.
Thus, niskykid should be ashamed of themselves and everybody should be chill with each other again.
Posted from: 24.195.0.174
March 13th, 2006 13:47
Let the c hilling ensue
Posted from: 207.82.33.11
March 14th, 2006 14:42
The topic according to http://www.ncfl.org/2006topics.htm is:
The NCFL Lincoln-Douglas Debate Topic for Nationals 2006.
“Resolved: When in conflict, an individual’s freedom of speech should be valued above a community’s moral standards.”
Posted from: 24.194.225.75
March 14th, 2006 18:05
Better than that rediculous impart knowledge topic.
Posted from: 68.175.99.147
March 14th, 2006 18:26
I actually really liked that topic, though I was frustrated with how many people tried to define “primary” as something related to order as opposed to centrality.
Posted from: 24.194.225.75
March 14th, 2006 20:55
Eh…I found it terrible. I mean, I didn’t get anywhere outside of a few practice rounds with my team, but it just seemed…stupid. *shrug* Sorry.
-Shea
P.S. Did you get my responded email?
Posted from: 24.194.225.75
March 14th, 2006 20:56
P.P.S.
Please excuse my grammar.
Posted from: 72.226.35.136
March 15th, 2006 18:12
shea, your probably not checking the thread now but i swear it wasnt me kid
good luck at ncfls
Posted from: 24.194.225.75
March 18th, 2006 22:08
You could have IMed me to say that Alex, but thanks anyway. I hope we all can put this behind us.
Posted from: 68.193.74.20
March 19th, 2006 16:07
Newark Diocese LD:
Ridge Stephanie Caravias, Kamaldeep Kaur, Andrew Carbone, Sameer Thanawala
Montville Mike Brenner, David Stern