Alta (Temporarily) Concludes After Quarters
SANDY, UT - A computer meltdown in the tab room caused the Alta Silver & Black Invitational to become severely delayed, resulting in the temporary conclusion of the tournament after the quarterfinal round. The semifinals and finals of Alta will take place in February at the College Prep School on the night before the Berkeley National Invitational. (Lexy Green deserves a special congratulations for managing to get the tournament up and running again after this unforeseeable technical problem.)
DOUBLES
Blackfoot DB def. Hillcrest [ID] JW (Jen Williams)
(J.J. Rodriguez, J. Johnson, Feig)
Reno MA def. El Cerrito JY (John Young)
(J.J. Rodriguez, J. Johnson, Feig)
Hillcrest [ID] NH def. Montgomery JH (Jessica Heckel)
(A. Knight, Wimmer, Reeder)
Hillcrest [UT] JG def. Archer MS (Melissa Schall)
(A. Knight, Wimmer, Reeder)
Salpointe Catholic AH def. Rowland Hall-St. Mark’s MP (Melissa Patel
(R. Harris, Thompson, Wesley Craven)
CPS NY def. Highlands Ranch AJ (Andrew Jarrett)
(R. Harris, Thompson, Wesley Craven)
Salt Lake City West AF def. Davis GD (Gregory W. Dursteler)
(Tundermann, Hatch, Holdaway)
South Eugene JS def. Torrey Pines VF (Vivian Feng)
(Tundermann, Hatch, Holdaway)
Blackfoot RE def. CPS AG (Amitha Ganthi)
(Michelin Massey, Baca, Yeager)
San Marino SL def. Clearfield JP (Justin Parnell)
(Michelin Massey, Baca, Yeager)
Salt Lake City West RE def. Capital CK (?)
(John Lynch, G. William, Bowman)
Salpointe Catholic CO def. South Eugene SRD (Sam Reis-Dennis)
(John Lynch, G. William, Bowman)
Ft. Collins TH def. Eagle LO (Lily Olsen)
(Jeff Gans, Jamarillo, J. Savage)
CPS KR def. Idaho Falls LR (Liz Rush)
(Jeff Gans, Jamarillo, J. Savage)
San Marino TL def. Bingham ST (Seth Terashima)
2-1 (Lexy Green, Mike Bietz, *Nick Coburn-Palo)
OCTAS
Bellevue JP def. Blackfoot DB (Devin Bean)
South Eugene JS def. Blackfoot RE (Rachel Esplin)
Hillcrest [UT] JG def. Ft. Collins TH (Tara Hobbes)
Reno MA def. San Marino TL (Tiffany Ti)
Salpointe Catholic CO over Salpointe Catholic AH (Angie Hermes)
Salt Lake City West AF def. San Marino SL (Stacey Liou)
Hillcrest [ID] NH def. CPS KR (Kunal Raygor)
QUARTERS (TOC Bid)
South Eugene JS def. Bellevue JP (Justin Perry)
Salt Lake City West AF def. Reno MA (Max Alderman)
CPS NY def. Hillcrest [ID] NH (Nina Hall)
Salpointe Catholic CO def. Hillcrest [UT] JG (Jareth Greeff)
SEMIS (to be held in February)
Salpointe Catholic CO v. South Eugene JS
CPS NY v. Salt Lake City West AF
FINALS (to be held in February)
CHAMPION (to be determined in February)
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TOP SPEAKERS
1. Andrew Jarrett (Highlands Ranch High School, CO)
2. Andrew Fang (Salt Lake City West High School, UT)
3. Jeremy Schifberg (South Eugene High School, OR)
4. Devin Bean (Blackfoot High School, ID)
5. Stacey Liou (San Marino High School, CA)
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Posted from: 66.108.85.206
December 9th, 2005 15:09
Who is competing for Harvard-Westlake? (No initials are listed.)
Good luck to all!
Posted from: 68.231.143.205
December 9th, 2005 15:19
Good luck Carlos and Angie! I know you’ll make Tucson proud!
Posted from: 68.231.143.205
December 9th, 2005 15:32
I hope they’re not expecting me to pick up those ballots…
Posted from: 67.162.153.109
December 9th, 2005 15:34
Good luck Coloradoans.
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 9th, 2005 15:39
ADAM, Are you NOT at Alta?
Posted from: 68.231.143.205
December 9th, 2005 15:46
Jay - Nope. Grant had to drop late last week. Apparently, the tournament took him out of the pool but, for whatever reason, left me in.
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 9th, 2005 15:53
Damn…well, I’m not there either, so we’re even I guess.
Posted from: 68.231.143.205
December 9th, 2005 16:01
Jay - Sorry! I wish we could have made it!
Posted from: 69.115.161.137
December 9th, 2005 16:27
wow, i only recognize one person on there
college prep NY - kick ass neal
Posted from: 136.152.138.140
December 9th, 2005 16:40
alta is so legit
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 9th, 2005 16:43
harvard-westlake = greer fick
Posted from: 68.38.209.138
December 9th, 2005 17:34
lmao.
this is less legit than the lakeland and monticello tournaments and well - that’s a hell of an accomplishment.
granted though, it makes much more sense to have an accessible mid west quarters tournament than it does to have the particular tournaments ive just mentioned, but whatever.
GOOD LUCK TO MELISSA PATEL!!!!!!
Anderson/Smith Lab!!
Posted from: 68.198.150.207
December 9th, 2005 17:46
When did Josh Meah become the person to determine whether or not a tournament is legitimate? When did people suddenly get the ability to determine whether a tournament is “legit” or “illegit” when they’re not there and have never been there? When did the criteria for determining whether a tournament is “legit” or “illegit” become how many names someone recognizes?
No offense Josh, but many people on the national circuit don’t recognize your name and you haven’t been competing on the national circuit too long yourself.
Good luck to all the compettitors at Alta.
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 9th, 2005 17:55
what are you talking about, melissa patel is garbage.
Posted from: 24.25.208.215
December 9th, 2005 17:59
YAY for vivian and irina.
represent!
love you.
Posted from: 68.38.209.138
December 9th, 2005 19:24
In response to the dude that effed my name up to be funny:
I made a bad post. You’re right. I apologize.
On a separate note - I’m entitled to my opinion similar to the way you are. If you would really enjoy a criteria for determining legitimacy, then read the posts following the last Alta tournament.
Also, what the hell does my name have to do with anything? The validity of my opinions have nothing to do with my name whatsoever.
The reason I post my name is because I allow my posts to be attached to my credibility. Much unlike yourself, if I type something that makes myself sound like an annoying prick I give people every opportunity to yell at me and persuade me otherwise with knowledge of who they are attempting to criticise.
I put my opinions out there to be discussed or shunned. I give people every opportunity to ring me out to dry with criticism to the fullest.
If you really hate my posting that much, message me on AIM: toyboxconundrum
Without the guts to give me an identity, I reserve the right to consider your anonymous post nugatory. I still believe in my original opinion, granted, it could have been stated much more eloquently, that doesn’t make it wrong. Last I checked, there are people on my own coast and across the country that agree with me, though that doesn’t make me correct, it provides my view a minimal amount of credibility to justify raising the issue.
Stifling criticism is never a positive, though if someone was particularly offended by my post, I apologize (I really do). It could have been said differently.
To *Jesus*:
Don’t ever talk about someone like that. You, whomever you are, are particularly disgusting and I’m sure will never find success in this activity with an attitude like that. Good job posting anonymously, but your lack of intelligence is shown through your post. You are a jerk and should probably quit the activity now.
Most likely, you will find a fantastic career in that which you just related Melissa to, or at least you’ll find a home. I doubt people enjoy your company.
Btw - I doubt you know Melissa. If you did, you’d know she’s a sweetheart and would be cheering for her as well.
Posted from: 199.5.172.2
December 9th, 2005 20:02
Josh–Alta is legit. Don’t delegitimize tournaments that you aren’t at and probably know little about. Former champions of Alta include Hirsh Jain, Justin Hinojoza, Max Stevens, and many more phenominal debaters. Fabien didn’t even get a bid there. Don’t talk shit. You’re inadvertently crapping on lots of good debaters who had a lot more success than you’re having.
Posted from: 70.114.9.107
December 9th, 2005 20:24
josh says
“I put my opinions out there to be discussed or shunned.”
consider your opinion shunned…
good luck jeremy and melissa. you guys were pretty good when i debated yal this year and i hope that you get yalls bids this weekend!!!
Posted from: 68.38.209.138
December 9th, 2005 20:36
Ok. I apologized in the second post. Joe, you are right. I’ll let someone else hang their neck out on the issue if they so choose. Jon. Remove the posts please. Thank you.
Posted from: 65.121.20.130
December 9th, 2005 20:36
awww…no one rushed to defend my honor when Bietz purposely spelled my name wrong in his post :( …i feel very unloved
Greer Feick
Posted from: 68.38.212.63
December 9th, 2005 20:45
josh meah is legit. so everyone back off, go do something else on a friday night, because you’re all babies.
Posted from: 68.231.143.205
December 9th, 2005 21:28
Why am I still getting ballots!? Could someone at the tournament please make sure they know I’m not there?
I don’t want things to run late because they have to push ballots I shouldn’t even have…
Posted from: 66.92.163.42
December 9th, 2005 21:49
Evidently someone has been picking them up…. and if one judge not in the pool is the biggest problem Alta has….. I’ll allude to the original josh meah advocacy ;)
Posted from: 166.70.28.150
December 9th, 2005 22:04
for those of you that were unaware, my aforementioned post was sarcastic, and I am truly sorry if I caused any offense. I have debated Ms. Patel before and have nothing but the upmost respect for her.
Posted from: 166.70.28.150
December 9th, 2005 22:07
If you could not tell my aforementioned post was merely sarcastic, and I am truly sorry if it offended anyone. I have nothing but the upmost respect for Ms. Patel.
Posted from: 65.121.20.130
December 9th, 2005 23:29
Tournament Predictions for Saturday:
1) It will remain cold with a light chance of legitimacy
2) The posts of egotistical fucknuts on .org will continue to poison the possiblity of debate prospering online. http://forum.lddebate.org/viewtopic.php?t=17502
FYI this shit is hilarious. A must see for the whole family.
3) A judge at Alta will be quoted as saying “Sure they were new arguments…but they were great.”
4) Josh Meah will be crowned official “legit tournament” poster and will go on to have an amazing career posting irrelevant crap.
Posted from: 65.121.20.130
December 10th, 2005 00:13
Alta Prediction:
We’ll win.
Posted from: 67.83.100.72
December 10th, 2005 06:37
GOOD LUCK JOHN!
Posted from: 66.92.163.42
December 10th, 2005 08:26
Adam - don’t be late for your 8am ballot :)
Posted from: 24.90.9.11
December 10th, 2005 08:39
this is me rushing to fight for greer’s honor after bietz horribly mispelled her name
consider your honor saved greer, and have a great tournament
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 09:07
Posts from “Jesus” are coming from:
I’m pretty sure the school network admins can sweep their logs and figure out more specifics.
OrgName: Jordan School District
OrgID: JSD-1
Address: Jordan School District
City: Sandy
StateProv: UT
PostalCode: 84070
Country: US
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CIDR: 163.248.0.0/16
NetName: JORDAN-SD
NetHandle: NET-163-248-0-0-1
Parent: NET-163-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS.UEN.NET
NameServer: NS2.UEN.NET
NameServer: NS.JORDAN.K12.UT.US
Comment:
RegDate: 1992-09-30
Updated: 1999-12-15
RTechHandle: MM493-ARIN
RTechName: MULLINER, MAX
RTechPhone: +1-801-567-8310
RTechEmail: MAX.MULLINER@jordan.k12.ut.us
Posted from: 66.92.163.42
December 10th, 2005 09:34
He not only posted rude ad-hominem attacks, but he posted them like 25 times….
Seriously, good luck to everyone there, especially whoever is picking up Adam Nelson’s ballots! :)
Posted from: 66.92.163.42
December 10th, 2005 10:08
Yeah, quick comment…
I don’t think those that are disputing the integrity of the tournament (with a notable exception being someone Bietz showed) are attacking any winners current, past, or future. I also think that it’s not an attack on the directors of the tournament, the residents of the state of Utah, the atendees, anyone who doesn’t travel national circuit for debate for whatever reason including cost, etc….
I think it’s an underlying joke about how we argue about which tournaments should get bids. I think it may be a joke against those who attack the northeast, but I don’t think anoyone is being serious in their attacks.
If we as a community take ourselves so seriously that we can’t joke about tournaments without people being attacked, then I seriously think there are other underlying issues.
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 10th, 2005 10:19
I’m not sure bid discussions are a “joke” that we just engage in for laughter, but I agree with Boyle that it’s definitely not worth the flamefest going on here.
Posted from: 207.172.150.102
December 10th, 2005 11:46
“Josh—Alta is legit. Don’t delegitimize tournaments that you aren’t at and probably know little about. Former champions of Alta include Hirsh Jain, Justin Hinojoza, Max Stevens, and many more phenominal debaters. Fabien didn’t even get a bid there. Don’t talk shit. You’re inadvertently crapping on lots of good debaters who had a lot more success than you’re having.”
I’m not going to criticize Alta because I’ve never been there, but your argument is a fallacy. Just because great debaters have won the tournament in the past, and other great debaters haven’t bid there doesn’t make the tournament “legit”. The champion of Harvard is a great debater, but it’s the worst bid tournament I’ve been to. Two years ago, a TOC semifinalist didn’t even clear there, much less get a bid. That still doesn’t make it a great tournament. Once again, I’m not going to talk about Alta, but equating who wins/doesn’t win there has nothing to do with the tournament’s “legitimacy”.
Posted from: 66.92.163.42
December 10th, 2005 11:52
Enjoy your round off Adam… I’m sure you’ll be judging late outrounds :) !
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 10th, 2005 12:10
Adam Nelson has indeed been removed from the pool. Thank you to him for judging more than his commitment (O) in Prelims.
Posted from: 24.20.205.10
December 10th, 2005 12:42
Go Jeremy Schifberg and Sam, Im rooting for you
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 13:21
Rumor has it that the reason outrounds are delayed 2+ hours is that data from rounds 1 through 5 has been lost and needs to be re-entered manually. Furthermore, there apparently was a judge “mistake” in round 4, skewing round 5 pairings.
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 13:27
Rumor has it that the reason outrounds are delayed is because the data from rounds 1 through 5 has been lost, and they are re-entering it manually. Furthermore, a judge error in round 4 ballots was discovered, so the round 5 pairings were skewed.
The latest update from tab has been to expect doubles postings at 3:30 (at the earliest). They will also single-flight octas to save time.
Posted from: 169.229.80.243
December 10th, 2005 13:28
i dont care what anyone says - alto is legit :)
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 13:56
Here we are, the 7th Flo’ Crew in order of speaks (H/L only included, but not the lurking variables like opponent wins that influence these rankings):
Jeremy 4-1 (116)
Justin 4-1 (112)
Mostafa 4-1 (112)
Sam 4-1 (108.5)
Greg 3-2 (114)
Ben 3-2 (112)
4-1s are practically guaranteed to break. According to the Schifberg Institute of Mathematics, 9 or 10 3-2s should break.
Posted from: 207.172.150.102
December 10th, 2005 14:06
How are those H/L totals possible…? If there are 5 prelim rounds, H/L includes 3 rounds, meaning a total of 90 possible speaks. Or does Alta do ballots out of 40…?
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 10th, 2005 14:36
30 in each round…the person made a mistake.
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 15:07
Greer Feick and Melissa Patel are confirmed 3-2. Kunal Raygor, whom I debated round 4 (pretty sure he picked up), is most likely 4-1, which means that I’m probably 3-2.
The tournament is about four hours late now (breaks were originally supposed to start at 12:30).
Whoever is taking care of the food is the tab room should be commended publicly for their delicious brownies.
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 15:15
From Reno:
John Fetters 3-2 (113)
Max Alderman 3-2/2-3 (116)
(Points are as of 4th round)
Posted from: 66.108.85.206
December 10th, 2005 15:20
Good luck to all! And Melissa, eat 3 brownies for me.
Posted from: 63.193.118.145
December 10th, 2005 15:25
<3 for kunal, kp, and nance. : )
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 15:26
jcruz, i totally already ate 3 brownies today. i could eat another one just for you though. i just have to track down bietz/michelin to steal one for me.
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 10th, 2005 15:29
Kunal is confirmed 4-1. Which means Melissa is confirmed 3-2. Neal Yuan, Michelle Huynh, and Michael Keaton are 3-2. Amitha Ganthi is either 3-2 or 4-1. All those debaters (besides, obviously, Melissa) are from CPS.
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 15:31
Michelin was only willing to steal me one brownie…were going to have to work on that :)
Posted from: 69.249.50.38
December 10th, 2005 15:40
perhaps the abundance of these “brownies” in the tab room explains the tournament’s administrative difficulties.
Posted from: 66.108.85.206
December 10th, 2005 16:03
Bietz & Michelin should also eat two brownies apiece for me.
Back to cooking dinner…and then working out….
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 17:16
In double octas,
Bellevue JP (16th seed, 85 h/l, 141.5) coaches over Bellevue MH (17th Seed, 84 h/l, 141) Mostafa Heddaya
Justin Perry will bid for Bellevue (as well as the 7th Flo Crew). You heard it here first.
Posted from: 66.92.163.42
December 10th, 2005 17:26
I enjoy the new reporting perspective… Not enough attention is paid to the tab room food. Personally, I think the worst offender of this policy was Princeton (with none) and Yale (with slim to none), while the local Washington/Arlington CFL tournament at Potomac Falls would take first; in terms of the national circuit, I’d say the Bronx tournament followed by the GBN and Wake tournaments would be second and tied for third, respectively.
Posted from: 66.108.85.206
December 10th, 2005 17:46
I’m honored. Wait until you see the plan for next year — we’re going to have students serving light snacks in the hallway between rounds!
Posted from: 24.25.208.215
December 10th, 2005 18:44
YAY vivian!!!
Posted from: 68.231.143.205
December 10th, 2005 18:48
Congratulations Carlos and Angie on your performances so far! I know you’ll keep it up!
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 18:58
I just dropped to Salpointe Catholic AH. Congrats. But, I just want to congrats Sam on a sweet 5th round. I enjoyed it. thanks
Posted from: 69.242.235.139
December 10th, 2005 19:10
atta boy carlos - keep it up
and angie..
one round away from your fist bid?
Posted from: 66.92.163.42
December 10th, 2005 19:20
Both Salpointe debaters picked up. John Lynch was on the top of one of the decisions.
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 19:28
Both Salpointe Catholic HS kids hit each other in Octos, so they got a ghost bid.
Neal and Kunal still in, as well as Schiffy, from South Eugene.
Two San Marino kids also left, debating right now.
John Young lost to Reno in double-octs.
West SLC AF (Andrew Fang) still in.
Posted from: 66.27.114.109
December 10th, 2005 19:29
GO Torrey Pines VF!!!
Posted from: 68.231.143.205
December 10th, 2005 19:36
Congratulations Carlos and Angie on your first bids! Good luck to whoever will be debating in quarters!
Posted from: 66.108.85.206
December 10th, 2005 19:37
Since they’re the first definitive results in: congratulations to Angie and Carlos, two of the coolest people at VBI@UCLA! (I told you at St. Mark’s that great things were ahead, Angie!)
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 19:43
Speaker Awards at Alta
1 - Highlands Ranch - Andrew Jarrett
2 - SLC West - Andrew Fang
3 - South Eugene - Jeremy Schiffberg
4 - Blackfoot - Devin Bean
5 - San Marino - Stacey Liou
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 10th, 2005 19:55
MAJOR congrats to Kunal Neal and Amitha, but especially to Amitha, who I hear dropped on a very painful 2-1 with Michelin Massey on Bottom. Nice job Amitha!
Posted from: 66.108.85.206
December 10th, 2005 20:13
“1 - Highlands Ranch - Andrew Jarrett”
YES. Andrew is one of the most dedicated, most genuine, most unassuming, and most all around awesome people I’ve met in and out of debate. Congratulations!
Posted from: 24.239.165.248
December 10th, 2005 20:25
YAY! GO JEREMY!!! :)
Posted from: 68.231.143.205
December 10th, 2005 20:29
Salpointe Catholic CO over Salpointe Catholic AH
Congratulations again Angie! And Carlos, good luck in quarters and beyond! I know you’ll keep it up!
Posted from: 68.38.212.63
December 10th, 2005 20:31
speaking of legit, thanks to hen hud, i def had to debate public forum after making cases 2 nights before and def got 5th. josh meah aint got nuttin on me
Posted from: 68.192.190.207
December 10th, 2005 20:31
Word to the Bellevue boys. Those kids will DEFINITELY reap the success they deserve at this tournament (and sorry to Mostafa; he’ll do some reaping later, I guess)
Posted from: 68.231.143.205
December 10th, 2005 20:36
Salpointe Catholic CO over Salpointe Catholic AH
Congratulations again Angie! And Carlos, good luck in quarters and beyond! I know you’ll keep it up!
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 20:38
First of the wins that I’ve heard: Neal from CPS wins over Capital CK.
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 10th, 2005 20:55
Assuming that last result was Octas, Congrats to Neal on His WAYYYYYYY overdue bid!!! Now we just need Kunal to clean it up.
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 20:58
Andrew Fang is teh s3xy
Posted from: 24.174.95.184
December 10th, 2005 21:49
Sorry to randomly post this here, but i’m intensely curious. I was informed by my coach (Mr. Jerry Crist) who was informed by Mrs. Boyd and Mrs. King that there are no more ghost bids this year. This thread (and the toc scoreboard) seem to indicate that there are ghost bids. Just wondering if anyone knew which way it was.
Posted from: 71.213.39.90
December 10th, 2005 22:30
Go Fang.
Posted from: 70.56.22.136
December 10th, 2005 22:43
Yay Fang! Congrats on your speaker award! Keep up the good work!
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 10th, 2005 22:44
Does anyone (Bietz?) have quarters pairings? I’d appreciate it.
Posted from: 70.251.78.205
December 10th, 2005 23:10
Congrats to Montgomery JH (Jessica Heckel) of UTNIF’s Ray/Wright lab and to everyone else who cleared. Keep up the great work Jessica.
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 10th, 2005 23:19
I have Heard Carlos (Salpoint) is hitting Schiffy (S. Eugene) in Sems.
I don’t know the other pairing… NICE WORK Carlos.
Posted from: 163.248.150.42
December 10th, 2005 23:34
Jay is right, however… at this point it looks like neither sems nor finals will be happening this weekend. The idea being tossed around is completing the outrounds the day before berkeley on the new topic, at college prep.
Posted from: 69.226.194.53
December 10th, 2005 23:39
I thought something like that might happen- Well Done to all 4 debaters… And MUCH LOVE to Neal for carrying CPS back to deep outrounds at Alta. Good Work!
Posted from: 24.25.208.215
December 10th, 2005 23:56
viv, extremely good run.
reno— so close, but yay anywway.
hugs when you get back.
lots of them.
Posted from: 24.54.239.171
December 11th, 2005 00:02
Congrats to Melissa Schall, Melissa Patel, and Kunal for breaking and Greer for being cool. You guys are awesome.
Posted from: 65.121.20.130
December 11th, 2005 00:06
holy wow i was massively killed Schiffberg. good luck to him =)
Posted from: 65.121.20.130
December 11th, 2005 00:35
Moment of sadness in regard to Ben (me) and Greg who both missed by one speak (reppin Bainbridge)
As a side note with regard to legitimacy, i think that late outrounds were ok but on one of greg’s prelims ballot the RFD was the fact that the neg (not greg) debated the value, and on one of mine the judge whined at me for saying my opponent can’t make new arguments in the 2AR.
Whatever those things mean, i felt that the 5 round poorly judged pool didn’t warrant a quarters bid, i go to local tournaments that are more legit then this (in my opinion). Mad congrats to Schiffy, who had a ridiculous quarters round (the first neg VI was that jeremy was a dirty atheist) and Justin. And congrats to our island homies from Mercer who bid in policy (way rad)
Sorry about the seeding mostafa but you’ll get your bid
Posted from: 67.166.64.128
December 11th, 2005 01:03
The tournament was postponed and they’re going to hold Semis and Finals at CPS the Friday before Berkeley, possibly on the new topic. (since quarters ended at 1:00 in the morning) All four parties agreed to the decision.
Semi-final rounds are Carlos (Salpoint) v. Schiffy (S. Eugene) and
Neal (CPS) v. Fang (West High School)
(Thanks for your comments Utah debators)
Posted from: 24.7.103.183
December 11th, 2005 01:40
Congrats to: John and Kunal, too bad last years finalists didn’t get the bids,
and mostafa, i feel you on the pain of being walked over in dubs (i.e. that was me last year.)
too bad utah state law mandates that the tournament end.
Posted from: 72.254.17.122
December 11th, 2005 02:06
Due to the lateness of the hour caused by the complete meltdown of the LD computer, we are running the semis of LD at College Prep on the night before the Berkeley tournament. Semis will be Salpointe CO v. South Eugene JS, and CPS NY v. West AF. This will allow us to have panels of judges who are actually awake! Finals of Policy will also be hosted by CPS at this time. The finalists are CPS BB and Mercer Island SP.
A big thank you to all of the judges (like Jeff Gans and Michelin Massey) who stayed beyond their commitment to help us with octos. And another big thank you to Mike Bietz for helping out with the reconstruction of the tournament (needed because of the most stunning computer disaster I have ever witnessed in a tab room).
Posted from: 66.108.85.206
December 11th, 2005 04:44
“(and the toc scoreboard)”
Keep in mind, please, that the TOC Scoreboard is unofficial, as noted at the top. I haven’t heard back from everyone that we shouldn’t include ghost bids, and since this issue seems to occur year after year with the uncertainty about the bids and the way the rule is phrased in JW’s e-mails, I’ve included them on our unofficial list. If we can get an official clarification that says otherwise, I’ll gladly (and swiftly) adjust accordingly.
To add to my earlier congratulations to Andrew, Carlos, and Angie: congratulations to all of the bid recipients, and a special shout out to Mr. Schifberg on his third bid and to Justin Perry and Max Alderman on their first bids! (Katherine Preston was right when she introduced me to Max last year at Nationals: he’s going places!)
I think Lexy Green deserves a special shout out for bringing the tournament back from what I understand was an unforseeable computer meltdown of epic proportions.
Posted from: 12.165.102.194
December 11th, 2005 09:10
DOUBLES:
(16) Bellevue JP coaches over (17) Bellevue MH (Mostafa Heddaya)
OCTAS
(16) Bellevue JP def. (1) Blackfoot DB (Devin Bean)
Posted from: 71.213.39.90
December 11th, 2005 09:18
Computer meltdown of epic proportions means 6 hour delay.
Posted from: 216.165.43.243
December 11th, 2005 09:27
YAY for Stace and TLi! You guys (girls… oh, you don’t care) impress me so much. And Stace, the speaker award is awesome! I want full details on AIM later today. Or, you know, in person when I come home in five days. =P
Posted from: 68.126.181.146
December 11th, 2005 10:19
Congrats Kunal and Neil!
Posted from: 70.156.253.102
December 11th, 2005 10:52
yeah neal YUAN KENNEDY LAB reppin… awesome job
Posted from: 71.105.71.221
December 11th, 2005 10:59
congrats to melissa on breaking!
Posted from: 69.81.126.39
December 11th, 2005 11:32
Yes, Fang is t3h sexy–he beat me at camp.
Go Fang!
Posted from: 69.81.126.240
December 11th, 2005 11:59
Congrats Miss Hobbes!
Posted from: 68.38.212.63
December 11th, 2005 12:35
lol computer meltdown
Posted from: 67.161.243.15
December 11th, 2005 13:25
Congrats to Max for getting the first TOC bid from Reno high in a long time!
Posted from: 65.25.226.156
December 11th, 2005 13:40
Anticlimactic.
Posted from: 161.253.9.244
December 11th, 2005 15:14
Congratulations to everyone who cleared/did well. In particular, good work Melissa! Everyone should watch out for her…only a sophomore! Wow. Sounds like a crazy weekend, I hope everything works out.
Posted from: 207.200.116.196
December 11th, 2005 21:57
Congrats to Melissa!!!
Posted from: 205.196.188.155
December 12th, 2005 05:28
SHIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFY!
Jeremy S: 3
Jeremy D: 2
He is the real jeremy.
Posted from: 71.219.110.53
July 6th, 2008 13:01
Wow…that was awhile ago, I miss debate :’( my college doesn’t have it. Make it to quarters and got a bid :D
Posted from: 75.73.219.151
July 6th, 2008 13:30
so you’ve been googling yourself recently, haven’t you Jareth?