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Kunal Raygor is Alta Champion

posted by Jon Cruz on December 11th, 2004


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Alta finalists John Young and Kunal Raygor

Congratulations to College Prep’s Kunal Raygor and El Cerrito’s John Young for advancing to the final round of the Alta Silver & Black Invitational. In the final round, Kunal defeated John to win the tournament title.

Kunal is coached by Lexy Green. John is coached by Oscar Shine and Nina Rocco.

UPDATE: Thank you to Lexy Green and Ashan Peiris for the complete results!

DOUBLES
(1) Green Valley AM def. (32) Park City DG (Dana Green)
(2) Hockaday JD def. (31) Jordan WT (Will Thompson)
(3) Brophy College Prep CB def. (30) Douglas County LG (Lauren Greyson)
(4) Bingham MH def. (29) South Eugene JS (Jeremy Schifberg)
(5) Salt Lake City AV def. (28) Hillcrest MR (Matt Rice)
(6) Foothills SK def. (27) Bingham SL (Stanley Lloyd)
(26) Salt Lake City West AF def. (7) Logan TP (Trevor Perry)
(25) Salt Lake City West BF def. (8) Hockaday BF (BobbieJo Ferguson)
(9) College Prep KR def. (24) Cheyenne East MD (Mariah Dobbs)
(23) Jordan High DH def. (10) College Prep NY (Neal Yuan)
(22) Salt Lake City West JC def. (11) Timberline JA (Joe Allen)
(21) Alta CB def. (12) Salt Lake City West SJ (Mary Ma)
(13) College Prep JB def. (20) South Eugene RD (Sam Reis-Dennis)
(14) El Cerrito JY over (19) El Cerrito AG (Amit Gressel)
(15) Salt Lake City West MD def. (18) Hockaday JZ (Jennifer Zavaleta)
(16) Douglas County KF def. (17) Hillcrest RS (Ryon Sorg)

OCTAS
(16) Douglas County KF def. (1) Green Valley AM (Anil Motwani)
(2) Hockaday JD def. (15) Salt Lake City West MD (Mike Daniels)
(14) El Cerrito JY def. (3) Brophy College Prep CB (Chris Bennett)
(13) College Prep JB def. (4) Bingham MH (Micah Heaton)
(5) Salt Lake City AV def. (21) Alta CB (Chelsie Bergin)
(6) Foothills SK def. (22) Salt Lake City West JC (Jeramiah Chin)
(23) Jordan DH def. (26) Salt Lake City West AF (Andrew Fang)
(9) College Prep KR def. (25) Salt Lake City West BF (Ben Fogelson)

QUARTERS (TOC Bid)
(9) College Prep KR def. (16) Douglas County KF (Kendra Fish)
(2) Hockaday JD def. (23) Jordan DH (Dave Heyborne)
(14) El Cerrito JY def. (6) Foothills SK (Sam Kleiner)
(13) College Prep JB def. (5) Salt Lake City West AV (Amir Varedi)

SEMS
(9) College Prep KR over (13) College Prep JB (Jay Bhatnagar)
(14) El Cerrito JY def. (2) Hockaday JD (Jessica Duby)

FINALS
(9) College Prep KR def. (14) El Cerrito JY (John Young)

CHAMPION
(9) College Prep KR (Kunal Raygor)

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36 Responses to “Kunal Raygor is Alta Champion”

  1. Jay Bhatnagar
    Posted from: 12.168.98.169

    December 11th, 2004 23:07
    1

    KUNAL RAYGOR (college-prep KR) WINS ALTA
    over El Cerrito JY (John Young) in Finals
    Semifinalists were Jessica Duby and Me
    Sam Kleiner Qualls to TOC, along with Jessica Duby.
    Congrats to all!

  2. Sameer
    Posted from: 66.87.79.121

    December 11th, 2004 23:34
    2

    Go Anil! FTS’04!

  3. Kyle Fleeger
    Posted from: 68.99.221.137

    December 12th, 2004 05:10
    3

    Nice work Sam.

  4. noah
    Posted from: 69.137.177.196

    December 12th, 2004 08:11
    4

    atta’ boy sam, there’s your two bids

  5. Ram
    Posted from: 69.244.60.94

    December 12th, 2004 09:15
    5

    nice sam, ur at the TOC man

  6. Neil Conrad
    Posted from: 66.255.67.3

    December 12th, 2004 09:18
    6

    What is Sam Cutter up to these days?

  7. amit
    Posted from: 65.105.236.2

    December 12th, 2004 09:21
    7

    sam cutter got the alta jip, not clearing as a 3-2.

    big ups to john young for taking second at his first travel tournament. now if only we didn’t have to hit in doubles…

  8. Krishna
    Posted from: 69.244.60.94

    December 12th, 2004 10:10
    8

    good job sam

  9. jeff
    Posted from: 68.96.98.217

    December 12th, 2004 10:26
    9

    top 3 speakers:

    1. Micah Heaton
    2. Anil Motwani
    3. Sam Kleiner

  10. Naveen
    Posted from: 68.192.190.55

    December 12th, 2004 11:20
    10

    Great job Sanay! Not to worry, man. You still have a few more shots at TOC :)

  11. Gagan
    Posted from: 24.6.44.161

    December 12th, 2004 11:39
    11

    Mad props to Sam on qualling!

  12. Amanda
    Posted from: 68.104.115.58

    December 12th, 2004 12:48
    12

    Sam..you bum! I’ve been calling you all weekend…somebody has been too busy qualling to TOC to call me back. :-p Congratulations…but you’re still a bum.

  13. max stevens
    Posted from: 165.123.147.34

    December 12th, 2004 13:36
    13

    great work, kleiner- made me proud
    max

  14. Bubb
    Posted from: 24.180.185.42

    December 12th, 2004 13:43
    14

    woa. Go, go Kunal. He was in my third week lab at SNFI two years ago. Congrats.

  15. Anjali
    Posted from: 209.30.199.181

    December 12th, 2004 13:45
    15

    mad props to jessica for qualling to TOC/getting to semis… and props to the jesus song (”i can only imagine”) for continuing to be the best debate pump-up song evar :)

  16. Ryan Hamilton
    Posted from: 136.242.122.224

    December 12th, 2004 13:52
    16

    Good job, Kunal. Another successful graduate of VBI’s floor 100 — administered by Max Stevens and yours truly.

  17. amit
    Posted from: 67.169.157.170

    December 12th, 2004 13:58
    17

    john walked over El CerritoAG in doubles.

  18. Lexy
    Posted from: 67.101.220.65

    December 12th, 2004 16:04
    18

    Here’s what we’ve reconstructed. Accurate to the best of our knowledge.

    [list transferred]

  19. ashan
    Posted from: 169.232.82.161

    December 12th, 2004 16:12
    19

    Congratulations to all who bidded. (Sincerely)
    But,
    Apparently kids who have only done LD twice in their lifetime (alta being the second time) can bid at alta, it gets worse and worse every year, i hate this tournament and hope it loses its bid.

  20. ashan
    Posted from: 169.232.82.161

    December 12th, 2004 16:13
    20

    apparently lexy and i are on the same wavelength

  21. kendra
    Posted from: 64.58.31.70

    December 12th, 2004 16:23
    21

    i thought the novice got a ghost bid, no?

  22. Lexy
    Posted from: 67.101.220.65

    December 12th, 2004 16:24
    22

    Fixed previous errors.

  23. Sanay
    Posted from: 68.7.197.22

    December 12th, 2004 17:51
    23

    El Cerrito JY walked over El Cerrito Amit something in dubs… you got that wrong still…

  24. Lexy
    Posted from: 67.101.220.65

    December 12th, 2004 18:38
    24

    You are correct.

  25. Aaron Kashtan
    Posted from: 138.16.39.216

    December 12th, 2004 19:37
    25

    Those results have Jeremy Schifberg as both the 20th and the 29th seed.

  26. max stevens
    Posted from: 165.123.147.34

    December 12th, 2004 23:51
    26

    Ashan- I feel I need to make this comment, sorry.

    You need to watch your mouth. You shouldn’t get pissy when things don’t go your way. I’m sure you didn’t feel that way after YOU got your bid at Alta two years ago, no? To denigrate a tournament to the degree that you say “it should lose its bid” is completely unnecessary. While it’s fine to criticize whatever you want to criticize, show some repsect to people who did well and are proud of their accomplishments at Alta. Alta is a topic of debate in this community- should it have a quarters bid is a question often asked- and I agree that perhaps it should be lowered. But don’t take out your petty frustrations on the successes of others.

    Yours,
    Max

  27. weeks
    Posted from: 68.110.162.251

    December 13th, 2004 10:19
    27

    props kunal. priess/shine tearin it up

  28. vik
    Posted from: 136.152.133.181

    December 13th, 2004 11:52
    28

    Mad props to CPS & Kunal.
    Big ups to El Cerrito.

  29. lexy
    Posted from: 208.147.72.117

    December 13th, 2004 14:26
    29

    I couldn’t find results for the 2000/2001 school year, but here are the Alta bids for the past several years. I think what you’ll find is that roughly half of the bid winners are never heard from again (but no harm, no foul), and that the other half includes some really outstanding debaters for whom Alta served as a springboard for further competitive success. Given the massive (and underserved by TOC opportunities) geographic region served by this tournament (AZ, CA, CO, ID, NV, OR, WA, WY, plus the occasional visitors from MN, MA, TX, etc.), it shouldn’t be surprising that some of these folks never get another bid. Focus instead on the great Western debaters who got their start at Alta, including Rob Gordon, Josh Anderson, Robert Chang, Jon Helfgott, Jessica Huynh, Matt Squeri, Mike Lee, Oscar Shine, Ashan Peiris, Max Stevens, Rusty Camden, Ranjeet Sidhu, Justin Hinojoza, and Hirsh Jain. I’d bet that some of this year’s Alta bid earners will step up and replicate their successes in national competition, and that the national circuit would be poorer without them.

    1998/1999
    Ben Warner, Carbon (UT)—2nd
    A. Bruenner, Austin (MN)—QF
    K Brush, Centennial (ID)—SF
    Rob Gordon, West (UT)—QF
    Sean O’Donald, La Cueva (NM)—SF
    Mark F, Cherry Creek (CO)—QF
    Tom Pryor, Hopkins (MN)—1st
    G. Babaeva, Hopkins (MN)—QF

    2000/2001
    Josh Anderson, Sehome (WA)
    Jennifer Cardinal, Blackfoot (ID)
    Robert Chang, Mission San Jose (CA)
    Jonathon Helfgott, Sehome (WA)
    Rusty Camden, Cherry Creek (CO)
    Stephanie Teng, El Cerrito (CA)
    Mike Keene, Sehome (WA)
    Elisabeth Page, Rowland Hall (UT)

    2001/2002
    Jessica Huynh, Clear Lake (TX)—QF
    Kyle Gundlach, Payson (AZ)—SF
    Matt Squeri, St. Ignatius (CA)—SF (round not debated)
    Mike Lee, College Prep (CA)—SF (round not debated)
    Min Shang, Boise (ID)—QF
    Oscar Shine, El Cerrito (CA)—Final (round not debated)
    Robert Chang, Mission San Jose (CA)—QF
    Rusty Camden, Cherry Creek (CA)—QF

    2002/2003
    Lauren Hallet, Cheney (WA)—QF
    Ashan Peiris, Granada Hills (CA)—SF
    Emily Heller, College Prep (CA)—QF
    Max Stevens, Green Valley (NV)—1st
    Samura Vachaani Lexington (MA)—SF
    Carlos Rivera, Strake Jesuit (TX)—QF
    Todd Trotter, Alta (UT)—QF
    Mie Inouye, Lexington (MA)—2nd
    Daniel Cohen (ghost) College Prep (CA)—OF

    2003/2004
    Ranjeet Sidhu , Central California (CA)—QF
    Zach Friesen, Cherry Creek (CO)—QF
    Marci Pepper, Cherry Creek (CO)—QF
    Chase Martoz , Idaho Falls (ID)—QF
    Justin Hinojoza, James Logan (CA)—Final (round not debated)
    Hirsh Jain , Mission San Jose (CA)—Final (round not debated)
    Joe Allen, Timberline (ID)—SF
    Kelsea Shuldes, Timberline (ghost) (ID)—QF
    Jeremiah Chin, Salt Lake City West (UT)—SF

    2004/2005
    Kunal Raygor, College Prep (CA)—1st
    Kendra Fish, Douglas County (NV)—QF
    Jessica Duby, Hockaday (TX)—SF
    Dave Heyborne, Jordan (UT)—QF
    John Young, El Cerrito (CA)—2nd
    Sam Kleiner, Foothills SK (AZ)—QF
    Jay Bhatnagar, College Prep (CA)—SF
    Amir Varedi, Lake City West (UT)—QF

  30. J.W. Patterson
    Posted from: 68.104.37.96

    December 13th, 2004 14:55
    30

    max is right,and i agree. ashan your comment is out of line, and this is not a place for debate.

  31. noah
    Posted from: 69.137.177.196

    December 13th, 2004 15:40
    31

    ^^^^ HAHAHA that’s ironic :) (not the place for debate)
    im a loser, but i couldnt stop laughing after that comment

  32. kleiner
    Posted from: 24.221.155.169

    December 13th, 2004 17:02
    32

    Mad props to Jay and Duby for completing their quals, and to Kunal for winning and being one of hte nicest people in the activity. And for those of you who have problems with the bid level,thats cool, save it for later- you only look like a dick when you go to a tournament and then after not getting the level of success you wanted just go off on the tournament sucking.

  33. kunal
    Posted from: 24.4.129.186

    December 13th, 2004 18:29
    33

    i just want to thank sam for everything he did to help me/tutor me @ alta….sam, ur awesome…congrats to everyone else who bidded

  34. Alison
    Posted from: 24.23.146.170

    December 13th, 2004 20:50
    34

    Good Job Kunal! and to all of those who bidded :o)

  35. kendra
    Posted from: 64.58.31.70

    December 14th, 2004 20:10
    35

    first off, douglas county is in colorado, not nevada. but anyway, its obvious that this tournament isn’t highly regarded in the eyes of the national circuit crowd (whatever that is). and perhaps rightly so. after all, a novice received a bid this weekend. however, to claim that it lacks merit simply because half the bidders are never heard of again simply ignores the fact that alta is drawing from regions where people don’t travel as much. this doesn’t mean they aren’t worthy debaters- it means they don’t have an endless supply of money to travel across the country on a weekly basis. i got my first bid at alta (and whether i’m worthy of a toc bid is definitely, debateable, so top speak). i can say that it will be a fight for me to even attend another bid tournament. i think despite its problems, alta should keep its bid, if only to spur an interest in national circuit debating in debaters that otherwise wouldn’t pursue the circuit. as of now, the circuit is far from being geographically balanced. though it isn’t too bad, the mountain region is definitely lacking, and this is exactly where alta draws its debaters from. people who complain about the illegitimacy of local debaters ought to also keep in mind that we come to these tournaments vastly underexposed to argumentation the rest of you hear and get practice debating every weekend. the next time one, or more of us manages to hold our own it would be nice to recieve support and not bitter, scathing criticisms of our successes. i enjoy the circuit for the high level of debate and education it provides, but not, currently, for the exlusionary attitudes that come with it.

  36. JCruz
    Posted from: 143.229.132.226

    December 14th, 2004 20:41
    36

    I have never been to Alta, and I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to weigh in on the issue of the tournament’s judging pool.

    I think it is very, very important to have a national circuit opportunity in the Mountain Region. I come from an area that has six bid opportunities within a two hour driving distance. I know that most areas of this country are not quite so lucky. Kendra’s comment about the financial limitations of most schools in this country are well-taken and, frankly, true. Alta - and now, ASU - serve an underserved area.

    Congratulations to Kendra, Kunal, John, Jessica, Sam, and the rest of the bid recipients on a job well done.

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