Live from the NFL: Policy Debate
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ROUND 14
GBN NS v. Brophy KS
GBN RZ v. CPS RS
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UNDEFEATED AFTER 13
121 GBN NS
ONCE-DEFEATED AFTER 13
146 CPS RS
120 GBN RZ
178 Brophy KS
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ROUND 13
146 def. 150 CPS def. Morgan Park
178 def. 159 Brophy def. Weston
121 def. 256 GBN NS def. Galveston
120 vs. 180 GBN RZ def. Bellarmine DS
ONCE-DEFEATED AFTER 12
120 GBN NS
ONCE-DEFEATED AFTER 12
120 GBN RZ
146 College Prep RS
150 Morgan Park DH
159 Weston BK
178 Brophy KS
180 Bellarmine DS
256 Galveston Ball PS
ROUND 12
159 def. 181 Weston BK def. Bellarmine SW (2-1)
150 def. 120 Morgan Park def. GBN RZ (2-1)
256 def. 264 Galveston Ball PS def. CR Wash BV (2-1)
178 def. 213 Brophy KS def. Round Rock HR (3-0)
121 def. 146 GBN NS def. College Prep RS (3-0)
BYE - 180 Bellarmine DS
(Note: all winning teams were aff except 256)
UNDEFEATED TEAMS AFTER ROUND 11
120
121
146
TOP 14 SPEAKERS
Robert Mills - Colorado
Michael Rosencrans - Illinois
Matt Wallace - Iowa
Sarah B. Whitney - Colorado
Tyler Will - Colorado
Jake Ziering - Illinois
Kate M. Elders - Michigan
Sam Heidepriem - South Dakota
William H. Magnon - Minnesota
Ravi Mehta - Ohio
Matt Nadell - Illinois
T.J. Sheehy - California
Dylan Sutton - Nebraska
Thomas D. Wichman - Wisconsin
POLICY ROUND 11
178 def. 171
213 def. 285
120 def. 264
150 def. 221
136 vs. 159 (no disclosure)
256 def. 294
121 def. 180
146 def. 204
181 def. 103
ROUND 10
136 def. 105
285 def. 248
121 def. 103
221 def. 107
256 def. 127
159 def. 108
180 def. 154
294 def. 265
120 def. 204
150 def. 106
178 def. 177
264 def. 181
146 vs. 171
155 vs. 213
ROUND 9
159 def. 157
106 def. 291
264 def. 294
285 def. 289
181 def. 213
265 def. 278
180 def. 178
248 def. 230
171 def. 155
146 def. 136
177 def. 186
121 def. 127
154 def. 162
120 def. 107
150 def. 128
105 def. 116
204 def. 108
264 def. 294
221 def. 214
177 def. 186
103 def. 256
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Posted from: 167.219.0.146
June 16th, 2004 16:37
What happened to 171? I assume they’re neg against 146 since they’re both undefeated, not listed and due opposite sides.
Posted from: 216.43.46.223
June 16th, 2004 16:40
Did 204 get the bye in round 9?
Posted from: 68.198.153.36
June 16th, 2004 16:41
Curiousity, in LD, debaters generally have to speak slower and be really nice and all in order to win because many of the judges are parent judges or people with less experience. In Policy (which is typically characterized by really, really fast speaking that I probably couldn’t even flow) do the debaters tend to speak slower?/ what kind of adaptions must be made to do Policy debate at Nationals?
Posted from: 68.19.190.198
June 16th, 2004 16:51
I watched Policy finals in Atlanta last summer, and while both teams did keep relatively fast speaking paces, they weren’t impossible to understand.
But that’s just me, watching the final round.
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 16th, 2004 17:05
Rounds can range from full on fast in prelims to slow as hell; i know in the round between 180 and 154 there are 3 lay judges including one communiciations judge (wants u to speak pretty)
Posted from: 209.210.9.10
June 16th, 2004 17:05
I am always surprised to hear how uncommon speed is in some areas of the country when it comes to policy.
Some of the policy rounds here have been debated incredibly slow, and I mean incredibly slow by LD standards. (The final round I saw for 10 minutes at Emory in policy was practically the slowest round I have ever seen in any event.) Others have been debated quite fast.
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 16th, 2004 17:27
no, olathe (204) hit park hill south; but is not listed above because there is no result from that round
Posted from: 216.251.190.124
June 16th, 2004 18:35
There have to be a couple things missing
146 vs. 171 College Prep RS-Brookings CW
Bye 155–Hutchinson BR
Can someone confirm that these rounds also took place in Round 10?
Posted from: 216.251.190.124
June 16th, 2004 18:40
Somebody has got to find out the codes for 248, 221 and 265. Please. We need to know who they are!
Posted from: 24.220.145.26
June 16th, 2004 19:01
I think that one of the missing codes could possibly be the other SFL team. There are 3 SFL teams, and 104, and 105 were two of them….however, the codes 103 and 106 belong to totally different schools…possibly there was a miscoding, because there are 3 SFL teams at Nationals and I keep hearing that 2 are still in and one is out which is SFL 104 SB
Posted from: 24.220.145.26
June 16th, 2004 19:05
Who won the 171 Brookings CW vs College Prep 146 rd?
Posted from: 216.251.190.124
June 16th, 2004 20:06
If my original posts were correct, there are a couple of pairings left off of the Round 10 schedule.
These should be the missing rounds
146-171 College Prep RS v. Brookings CW
155-213 Hutchinson BR v. Round Rock HR
Can somebody confirm these 2 rounds took place during Round 10 and, if so, who won?
It appears that Blue Valley NW was pulled up to debate Bellarmine DS round 10. Since Bellarmine won, that means there should be 5 undefeateds left and 13 teams down 1.
Here is my best guesses as to records:
Undefeated: GBN NS, Bellarmine DS, GBN RZ, CR Wash BV and the winner of the Brookings CW/College Prep RS round.
Down 1: Fremont ST, Worland RS, Bishop Guertin EP, 221 (who are you??), Galveston Ball PS, Weston BK, Manhattan JL, Olathe South SS, Morgan Park, Brophy KS, Bellarmine SW, loser of the Brookings CW/College Prep RS round, winner of Hutchinson BR/Round Rock HR round.
Confirmations?
Posted from: 12.168.99.200
June 16th, 2004 20:11
221 is MBA - Wieck/Cannon
CPS beat Brookings, 3-0
Round Rock (Hanna/Rooney) beat Hutchinson (Brockman/Roath)
Posted from: 152.163.253.37
June 16th, 2004 20:27
103
221
256
108
204
264
show up in round 10 but not round 9, and obviously didn’t all have byes.
I head Morgan Park (150) hadn’t lost up through round 9, but they hit a 1 loss, so I’m not sure
Posted from: 12.168.99.200
June 16th, 2004 20:32
missing rd 9:
204 d. 108 (2-0 round)
264 d. 294 (2-0 round) (pairing is wrong)
221 d. 214 (214 dropped)
177 d. 186 (186 dropped)
103 d. 256 (2-0 round)
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 16th, 2004 21:24
Bellarmine DS is undef.
Bellarmine WS is down 1 (CR Wash); but apparently CR Wash is also down 1
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 16th, 2004 21:27
sorry - CR Wash is apparently undef.
Posted from: 208.42.163.11
June 17th, 2004 06:25
This should be the official Round 10 policy results. Please let me know if there are errors. It is much easier to do this if VB people post ALL (I REPEAT–ALL) the rounds on the schedule!!
Undefeateds
121 def. 103 GBN NS defeats Bishop Guertin EP
120 def. 204 GBN RZ defeats Olathe South SS
264 def. 181 CR Wash BV defeats Bellarmine SW
146 def. 171 College Prep RS defeats Brookings CW
Pull-up
180 def. 154 Bellarmine DS eliminates Blue Valley NW CL
(Blue Valley was pulled up to hit an undefeated Bellarmine team)
Down ones
136 def. 105 Fremont ST eliminates SFL
285 def. 248 Worland RS eliminates Nevada Union AR
221 def. 107 MBA CW eliminates GR GL
256 def. 127 Galveston Ball PS eliminates Neenah DD
159 def. 108 Weston BK eliminates Park Hill South
294 def. 265 Manhattan JL eliminates ??
150 def. 106 Morgan Park eliminates GR EM
178 def. 177 Brophy KS eliminates Cheyenne East JP
213 def. 155 Round Rock HR eliminates Hutchinson BR
That should leave 18 teams (5 undefeated and 13 down ones). Most likely there will be 5 rounds today but there is one scenario that gets it done in 4 rounds and one that gets it done in 6.
Posted from: 208.42.163.11
June 17th, 2004 06:44
Your descriptiopn looks right to us. Don’t see much of a reason to keep the tab room closed now. Way to go Fishy (yes..we know who you are!! :)
Good luck to all today.
Posted from: 208.42.163.11
June 17th, 2004 06:46
Once the VB staff gives us the 9 (I repeat—there will be 9 policy rounds on the Round 11 schedule) rounds, can someone post the 14 speakers that were listed for winning speaker awards.
We love you JC and all your crew. Thanks for the work.
Posted from: 205.208.195.65
June 17th, 2004 09:21
Speaks are posted. And thanks for the compliment. ;o)
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 17th, 2004 09:50
it’s T.J. Sheehy from California who got a speaker award (Bellarmine SW - 181)
Posted from: 208.42.163.11
June 17th, 2004 09:52
Bye in round 12 will go to CR Wash, Bellarmine DS or Fremont (if they beat Weston round 11).
GBN NS will get CPS RS and someone will get pulled up to debate GBN RZ. If both GBN teams win round 12, they will get to debate each other in round 13.
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 17th, 2004 09:57
Decoded (almost):
178 Brophy KS def. 171 Brookings CW
213 Round Rock HR def. 285 Worland SR
120 GBN RZ def. 264 CR Wash BV
150 Morgan Park def. 221
136 Fremont st vs. 159 Weston BK (no disclosure)
256 Galveston Ball PS def. 294 Manhattan JL
121 GBN NS def. 180 Bellarmine DS
146 CPS RS def. 204 Olathe South SS
181 Bellarmine SW def. 103 Bishop Guertin EP
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 17th, 2004 10:04
221 is MBA CW
Posted from: 208.42.163.11
June 17th, 2004 10:23
Round 12 pairings:
159 vs. 181 Weston BK v. Bellarmine SW
150 vs. 120 Morgan Park v. GBN RZ
264 vs. 256 CR Wash BV v. Galveston Ball PS
178 vs. 213 Brophy KS v. Round Rock HR
121 vs. 146 GBN NS v. College Prep RS
BYE - 180 Bellarmine DS
Posted from: 216.43.46.223
June 17th, 2004 11:28
And for what it’s worth, it’s Morgan Park DH (Aaron Davis and Brandon Hamilton).
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 17th, 2004 11:44
fuck…. Weston BK d. Bellarmine SW (2-1)
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 17th, 2004 11:50
ya’ll are wrong - there are 8 teams left; u excluded Bellarmine DS who j ust got a bye
Posted from: 24.117.227.196
June 17th, 2004 11:51
How can 120 be Undef. after Rd. 11, then win Rd. 12, then be one-down after Rd. 12?
Posted from: 208.42.163.11
June 17th, 2004 11:56
Correct. There are 8 teams left. They just forgot to list Bellarmine DS.
Guess we don’t have an all-GBN debate…Yet.
Also looks like Ball will get pulled up to debate GBN NS. At least they’ll get to go aff.!
Posted from: 205.124.43.254
June 17th, 2004 13:05
Jeff - THANK YOU! We’ve had a lot of trouble finding them, and their names/initials were not posted publicly. Thanks a million!
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 17th, 2004 13:13
120 GBN RZ vs. 180 Bellarmine DS…apparently the panel = lay
Posted from: 216.43.46.223
June 17th, 2004 13:20
No problem. It’s Aaron Davis and Brandon Hamilton.
Who I’m pretty sure are both fucking SOPHOMORES.
Posted from: 63.192.210.226
June 17th, 2004 14:45
120 GBN RZ d. 180 Bellarmine DS (3-0)
Posted from: 4.166.21.35
June 17th, 2004 15:57
is it possible to close out nats, if both GBN teams win 14?
Posted from: 216.43.46.223
June 17th, 2004 16:03
Round 14
GBN NS v. Brophy KS
GBN RZ v. CPS RS
Posted from: 167.219.0.140
June 17th, 2004 16:12
What are the sides for the 2 round 14 debates?
Posted from: 216.251.190.124
June 17th, 2004 16:34
So, if GBN NS wins, there are no more rounds tonight. They are in finals and the winner of the GBN RZ-CPS RS debate is also in finals.
If GBN NS loses, there are three teams left. GBN NS, Brophy and the winner of the GBN RZ-CPS RS round. A bye is drawn sending one team to finals. The other two teams debate for the last slot.
I believe the bye is the first thing done and is done irrespective of what that means for the remaining round. Thus, assuming Brophy has not yet had a bye, they could draw the bye and force a GBN-GBN debate with the winner going to finals.
Posted from: 205.124.43.254
June 17th, 2004 16:47
As in LD, there can be no “official” close outs - that is, debaters must debate the final round.
Posted from: 12.174.32.131
June 17th, 2004 16:56
THE WIZARD SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH
Posted from: 68.11.42.154
June 17th, 2004 22:39
It would have been cool if the guys who won CFL and TOCs won this. Congrats to all those who have mastered the mysterious and arcane world of policy debate.
Posted from: 24.6.169.125
June 18th, 2004 11:02
i love the cock
Posted from: 211.239.74.36
August 4th, 2004 13:20
Great page !
Posted from: 200.21.45.11
August 5th, 2004 00:09
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