John McNeil Wins the TOC
TOC finalists John McNeil and Tim Hogan
It all came down to this: the final round of the 2004 Tournament of Champions featured Edina’s John McNeil and Apple Valley’s Tim Hogan. The national circuit championship ended with a round between students who attend schools fifteen minutes apart from one another!
On a 3-2 decision, John defeated Tim to claim the 2004 TOC title. The panel consisted of Michelin Massey, David Huston, Sean Mumper, Paul Bellus, and Stephanie St. Amour. The latter two sat out.
John is coached by Mike Bietz. Tim is coached by Pam Cady-Wycoff.
RUN-OFF ROUND (ROUND 7.5)
(14) Lake Highland RO def. (19) Mission San Jose HJ (Hirsh Jain)
3-0 (Anthony Berryhill, Jake Gelfand, Katie Dessi)
(18) MBA SP def. (15) Granada Hills RL (Ryan Lawrence)
2-1 (Joe Vaughan, Mike Bietz, Daryn Paciotti*)
(17) James Logan JH def. (16) Des Moines North ER (Ernie Rose)
2-1 (Pat Fitch, Chetan Hertzig, Zach Prax*)
OCTAS
(1) Apple Valley TH def. (17) James Logan JH (Justin Hinojoza)
2-1 (Joey Seiler, Mazin Sbaiti, Dean Rhoads*)
(2) Churchill PS def. (18) MBA SP (Spence Patton)
3-0 (Stephanie St. Amour, Steve Clemmons, Steve Schappaugh)
(3) Edina JM def. (14) Lake Highland RO (Ryan O’Hara)
2-1 (Stacy Thomas, Jim Menick, Anthony Berryhill*)
(4) Menlo-Atherton JM over (13) Menlo-Atherton TB (Thomas Brugato)
(12) S.F. Austin WP def. (5) Scarsdale DL (David Lebowitz)
2-1 (Sean Mumper, Lisa Miller, Brent McKibben*)
(6) Howland EP def. (11) Green Valley MS (Max Stevens)
2-1 (Michelin Massey, Oscar Shine, Michele Coody*)
(7) R.L. Turner BA def. (10) Valley SB (Steph Bell)
2-1 (Fred Robertson, Dave McGinnis*, John Lynch)
(8) Monte Vista WL def. (9) Edina JG (Jed Glickstein)
2-1 (Sarah Smith, Joe Vaughan*, Vikrum Aiyer)
QUARTERS
(1) Apple Valley TH def. (8) Monte Vista WL (Will Leiter)
3-0 (Stephanie St. Amour, Greg Miller, Sarah Smith)
(2) Churchill PS def. (7) R.L. Turner (Bryce Adams)
2-1 (Dan Meyers, Steve Schappaugh, Pam Cady-Wycoff*)
(3) Edina JM def. (6) Howland EP (Eric Palmer)
2-1 (Joe Vaughan, Joey Seiler*, Brent McKibben)
(4) Menlo-Atherton JM def. (12) S.F. Austin WP (Will Palmer)
2-1 (Fred Robertson, Katie Dessi, Vikrum Aiyer*)
SEMIS
(1) Apple Valley TH def. (4) Menlo-Atherton JM (John McKay)
3-0 (Michelin Massey, Stephanie St. Amour, Sarah Smith)
(3) Edina JM def. (2) Churchill PS (Paul Schiano)
2-1 (Stacy Thomas, Dean Rhoads, Pat Fitch*)
FINALS
(3) Edina JM def. (1) Apple Valley TH (Tim Hogan)
3-2 (Michelin Massey, David Huston, Sean Mumper, Paul Bellus*, Stephanie St. Amour*)
TOC CHAMPION
(3) Edina JM (John McNeil)
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TOP SPEAKERS
1. Eric Palmer (Howland, OH) [Walter Alan Ulrich Award]
2. Will Leiter (Monte Vista, CA)
3. Neil Conrad (TMI, TX)
4. Jed Glickstein (Edina, MN)
5. Steph Bell (Valley, IA)
6. Bryce Adams (R.L. Turner, TX)
7. Tim Hogan (Apple Valley, MN)
8. John McNeil (Edina, MN)
9. Paul Schiano (Churchill, TX)
10. Max Stevens (Green Valley, NV)
Popularity: 1%
test
Posted from: 128.148.186.209
May 3rd, 2004 12:49
MINNESOTA PRIDE!
Posted from: 68.117.54.182
May 3rd, 2004 12:56
*Nods in concurrance*
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May 3rd, 2004 12:56
WOOOOOT!!!
Posted from: 24.46.16.64
May 3rd, 2004 12:59
anybody know the final round panel?
Posted from: 129.15.214.46
May 3rd, 2004 13:09
Way to go, John!
Posted from: 24.243.7.135
May 3rd, 2004 13:19
and the winner is…..?
Posted from: 146.115.115.110
May 3rd, 2004 13:23
From Minnesota! _____
Posted from: 160.39.225.64
May 3rd, 2004 13:42
How many judges in finals? Three? Five?
Posted from: 143.229.154.248
May 3rd, 2004 15:08
Two PHENOMENALLY qualified finalists. Congratulations to both!!!
Posted from: 67.249.220.94
May 3rd, 2004 15:34
Go John! Good luck to both…
Posted from: 24.185.41.37
May 3rd, 2004 15:38
Congrats to both finalists..anyone know when the FINAL result will be in?
Posted from: 160.39.225.64
May 3rd, 2004 15:49
Any confirmations? What about sides? And the number of judges and the names of judges?
Posted from: 66.13.206.244
May 3rd, 2004 16:11
congrats to John!!! Any word on the policy front?
Posted from: 12.158.48.66
May 3rd, 2004 16:26
for policy from jake
Chattahoochie (Negative)-Consult Brazil, T resolved, Framework debate, Case—going for Case, framework, and kicking the counterplan and T.
vs.
College Prep A (Affirmative)-New Critical Sea Turtles aff-
Glenbrooks North RZ (Negative)
vs.
Coll. Heritage A (Affirmative-broke new aff. I have no info, I’m watching the Chatt vs. CP round)
Posted from: 24.6.169.125
May 3rd, 2004 17:57
Policy Finals is
CPS AB vs. GBN RZ
Posted from: 24.162.117.201
May 3rd, 2004 17:59
where did sam and brandi drop? (highland parK)
sb
Posted from: 134.84.207.64
May 3rd, 2004 18:34
octos, to cps
Posted from: 24.162.117.201
May 3rd, 2004 18:36
did i ask you, pinto?
b
Posted from: 143.229.154.141
May 3rd, 2004 19:30
I’ve now reposted this with results! As we get definitive seedings/judging panels, we’ll add them in.
Posted from: 160.39.225.64
May 3rd, 2004 19:52
Who won Policy? GBN or CPS?
Posted from: 67.170.248.14
May 3rd, 2004 20:22
Just b/c it doesn’t seem like theres enough cali love in the comments - MADDDD PROPS to will leiter - SOPHOMORE breakin to QTRS and 2nd speaker!!!! talk about brilliance…and of course to john and tim for being awesome finalists!!
Posted from: 143.229.154.141
May 3rd, 2004 20:46
I’ve said it elsewhere, but I’d like to echo the last comment by noting: Will Leiter. Wow.
Posted from: 205.188.116.212
May 3rd, 2004 20:51
Octa Round
Monte Vista v Edina (sarah smith, i forget (ashan?) and Vaughan*)
Austin vs Scarsdale 2-1 (Mumper, Lisa Miller, McKibben*)
Quarters Round
Edina vs Howland (McKibben, Vaughan, Seiler*)
I might be still not lucid from travel but i think this is right)
Posted from: 164.107.252.92
May 3rd, 2004 21:12
Tim over Will L. was a 3-0 with Stephanie St. Amour, Greg Miller, and Sarah Smith all affirming.
The only thing I judged in that round was that Ashan is the most annoying person to sit next to.
Posted from: 24.6.169.125
May 3rd, 2004 21:17
Neg. GBN def. Aff. CPS on a 4-1.
Posted from: 143.229.154.141
May 3rd, 2004 21:20
Does anyone know McKibben’s first name?
Posted from: 24.6.169.125
May 3rd, 2004 21:55
brent
Posted from: 12.158.48.66
May 4th, 2004 10:50
My round with the great John McNeil was a 2-1 with Stacy Thomas and Dean Rhodes on top, and Pat Fitch Voting for me.
Pat loves the dropped effects T
Posted from: 67.107.24.62
May 4th, 2004 13:02
wow… look at all those female debaters.
Posted from: 24.6.169.125
May 4th, 2004 15:49
Paul, everyone knows FX T isn’t a voter unless you prove the affirmative is asccociated with an indefinateness r squared value of .98
Posted from: 66.68.114.59
May 5th, 2004 22:08
If you are interested in my RFD for the round between Paul and John it is posted at lddebate.org in the “25 things I learned at the TOC” thread.
http://forum.lddebate.org/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=20&t=000538&p=2